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You can tell that most people here haven’t watched us or him anywhere near enough...

I understand that he isn’t a top choice when you think of options like Raya or Onana but comments here are acting like he’s shite which he very much isn’t. He’s better than De Gea is now because De Gea has declined quite steeply and Pickford has improved a lot in the past 2-3 seasons which the stats pretty much back up, especially this season.

He’s better than Ramsdale who everyone seems to spunk about. I’d have Allison, Ederson and Raya probably as the best keepers in the league with Pickford around that top 5 spectrum.

If we're going to spend money on a goalkeeper, we want it to be a real upgrade who might actually have a chance of being a title-winning capable keeper. Someone who can really play with the ball on the deck. We finished 3rd and got to a few cup finals already, we need signings that can take us one step firther. A marginal upgrade makes no sense when for an extra 10 or 20 million we could go after the likes of Onana or Costa. We're already linked with Mount and having similar arguments, but at the end of the day does signing Mount and Pickford scream ambitious title challengers?
 
If his name was Pickfordinho you'd all be creaming:drool:
 
Really hope this isn't a thing. He's nowhere near good enough, and thoroughly unlikeable to boot.
 
Are we doing this idiotic "it's because he's English!" shit every time now we're linked with an english player that part of our fans don't want at United?
 
Henderson is an absolute nothing player at PL level. Below average at everything expect catching crosses and saving pens, and he lets in soft goals every other week.

Pickford is a Lloris regen. Capable of some incredible shot stopping, but erratic and error prone. Not what we need, but still far, far above Henderson.
He had a good run in the team under ole and I can’t remember him being to bad or making the mistakes DDG does or Pickford is capable of. Just don’t think it makes sense to get rid of 1 English keeper and bring in another who’s also not as good as DDG. If we’re bringing in a keeper surely it has to be for number 1 spot? DDG if he stays should be back up next season and if he won’t accept that then I guess we need to sign 2 keepers. 1 starter and 1 back up.
 
Whilst I’m not a gambling man and I don’t have much money at all, I’d bet A LOT of money on this not being even close to realistic.

Pickford is nowhere near the shot-stopper that DDG is, and isn’t anywhere near good enough on the ball to offset the shot-stopping deficiency.
 
Whilst I’m not a gambling man and I don’t have much money at all, I’d bet A LOT of money on this not being even close to realistic.

Pickford is nowhere near the shot-stopper that DDG is, and isn’t anywhere near good enough on the ball to offset the shot-stopping deficiency.

De Gea is a very average shot stopper these days. He has basically no good qualities anymore and the stats back it up. Pickford and De Gea are about the same level in shot stopping. But he still isn't good enough for what we need.
 
If we're going to spend money on a goalkeeper, we want it to be a real upgrade who might actually have a chance of being a title-winning capable keeper. Someone who can really play with the ball on the deck. We finished 3rd and got to a few cup finals already, we need signings that can take us one step firther. A marginal upgrade makes no sense when for an extra 10 or 20 million we could go after the likes of Onana or Costa. We're already linked with Mount and having similar arguments, but at the end of the day does signing Mount and Pickford scream ambitious title challengers?

To be fair, Pickford has arguably been one of the best players for England in their World Cup and Euro runs, plus he has always shown that he can step it up in big moments and high pressure games (he's been phenomenal for us in the end of season relegation run ins).

I think Maignan and Costa are probably the stand out keepers that are relatively attainable and I'd opt for both of them over Pickford because of their age and quality in comparsion but an alternative in the Raya/Onana type camp is Pickford who is very underrated on this forum because people only see him in derby games or when he's screaming at people.
 
To be fair, Pickford has arguably been one of the best players for England in their World Cup and Euro runs, plus he has always shown that he can step it up in big moments and high pressure games (he's been phenomenal for us in the end of season relegation run ins).

I think Maignan and Costa are probably the stand out keepers that are relatively attainable and I'd opt for both of them over Pickford because of their age and quality in comparsion but an alternative in the Raya/Onana type camp is Pickford who is very underrated on this forum because people only see him in derby games or when he's screaming at people.
So Pickfords positional sense wasn't 100% at fault for the Tchouaméni goal in the world cup then ?
 
To be fair, Pickford has arguably been one of the best players for England in their World Cup and Euro runs, plus he has always shown that he can step it up in big moments and high pressure games (he's been phenomenal for us in the end of season relegation run ins).

I think Maignan and Costa are probably the stand out keepers that are relatively attainable and I'd opt for both of them over Pickford because of their age and quality in comparsion but an alternative in the Raya/Onana type camp is Pickford who is very underrated on this forum because people only see him in derby games or when he's screaming at people.
You watch him every week, and you're a fine poster, so I assume it is largely true that he's a good keeper but he is so incredible irritating that I would struggle to not find myself willing us to concede just to annoy him.
 
To be fair, Pickford has arguably been one of the best players for England in their World Cup and Euro runs, plus he has always shown that he can step it up in big moments and high pressure games (he's been phenomenal for us in the end of season relegation run ins).

I think Maignan and Costa are probably the stand out keepers that are relatively attainable and I'd opt for both of them over Pickford because of their age and quality in comparsion but an alternative in the Raya/Onana type camp is Pickford who is very underrated on this forum because people only see him in derby games or when he's screaming at people.

Those keepers are all much better on the ball than Pickford, he's not very good at stopping crosses and flaps at them even more than De Gea. He is a good keeper but his profile isn't that much different from what United have.
 
Those keepers are all much better on the ball than Pickford, he's not very good at stopping crosses and flaps at them even more than De Gea. He is a good keeper but his profile isn't that much different from what United have.

I don't disagree and I have stated even in this post that there are better keepers out there that are attainable. I just don't think others are being fair in their assessment by calling him crap and worse than De Gea. Both completely untrue.

I think it's as simple as - are they an upgrade on De Gea? Yes. Are they enough of an upgrade? Arguably not.
 
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I know everyone is desperate to see DDG replaced, but I think we need a bigger upgrade than Pickford, if he is even an upgrade at all.

I am still haunted by the period between big Pete and VDS, we need to make sure we get it right and it's a top, top GK we bring in.
 
City, Arsenal, Brighton, Brentford… all famously have a ‘No dickhead’ rule.

Pickford is an Apex Dickhead. Decent keeper. No chance I’d want him at United. He’s such a noisy little prick.
 
Everton aren't going to let him go for cheap, so someone please explain to me why he's more sought after than the likes of Costa?

Is it the homegrown obsession? The fact he's 'PL-Proven'? (If that even applies to goalkeepers).
 
He's got a mistake in him, he seems to get over excited by things and have mad moments where he rushes out or makes a rash choice.
 
Surely not. Diogo Costa seems the obvious choice given his attributes and his release clause. If we have the funds it should be an easy choice
 
I'm not a huge Pickford fan, he still plays like a cat on a hot tin roof.

Overall he's a good keeper but not a top 4 one. So, I can understand the push back in this thread. He's won me over somewhat, and he certainly not shite.
 
Wannabe 'ard man who looks like a complete tool with his angry screaming and gesticulating. He may well be a (slight) upgrade on de Gea, but we can and should be aiming higher than this twunt.
 
Anyone see Sky's Monday Night Football special/repeat on Peter Schmeichel - proper bloody goalkeeper! To think Pickford could wear the shirt is a joke. Not even best England keeper - only the man who thinks Harry Maguire is the best CB would think that...
 
Replacing De Gea with Pickford would be peak stupidity. He doesn’t do anything better, except maybe kick the ball very far.
 
Is the correct answer

Lads wanting to rid of De Gea becuase he's making crucial errors (which is compeltely fair) but have no issue in signing Pickford :wenger:

I think errors have to be taken in context really. Allison drops loads of clangers but he's easily the best keeper in the league.
 
Weird how the stats tell a different story.

I don’t care about the stats. I’ve watched enough of Pickford to know that he’s bang average. If we spend energy and budget on replacing one subpar keeper with another, we deserve to not progress.
 
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