Jordan Pickford

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Red Star One said:
To compare ETH to SAF is a blasphemy enough, but to think the situation in early 10s when we had easily the strongest team in England is anyhow comparable to today, when we obviously need to bridge the quality gap between us and teams above us is even more ridiculous in my eyes.
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There were plenty of periods under Fergie where we didn't have the strongest team in England. Are you telling me in his final season when we had Cleverley, Valencia and Young playing week-in week-out, we had a stronger team than City with Aguero, David Silva and Yaya Toure? :lol:

If you dislike the Fergie comparison (I was trying to keep it United-focused) then I'll use Klopp as an example instead. He went toe-to-to with City from 2018-2022 with a team containing two or three quality players (nothing on City's level) but with their starting 11 mainly consisting of players like Henderson, Wijnaldulm, Robertson: who Liverpool signed from bottom half clubs and who weren't rated highly at the time but who went on to be successful. Top coaches turn average-good players into fantastic system players.

As long as we're upgrading the likes of De Gea, Eriksen and Martial, I'm not devastated if their replacements aren't world class. I trust Ten Hag to mould them into the system he wants to play.
 
SteveCoppellFan said:
United signing Pickford would make me cry inside.
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Im not sure. We seem to be working towards building a hard working team that gets from one end of the pitch to the other very quickly if Mount is what we're looking for in an 8. Pickford's long kicking is very accurate so i can imagine us stretching play very quickly with the one thing we already do well, breaking at pace. Currently we dont have a keeper who can contribute to that.
 
Scholsey2004 said:
Im not sure. We seem to be working towards building a hard working team that gets from one end of the pitch to the other very quickly if Mount is what we're looking for in an 8. Pickford's long kicking is very accurate so i can imagine us stretching play very quickly with the one thing we already do well, breaking at pace. Currently we dont have a keeper who can contribute to that.
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There are much better keepers out there with stronger distribution than Pickford, who isn't particularly famed for that part of his game. Mount and Pickford for 100m odd would be horrific.
 
Why is this constantly at the top of the page? I haven’t seen anyone credible saying that he’s threatened to rock up here
 
2 man midfield said:
Why is this constantly at the top of the page? I haven’t seen anyone credible saying that he’s threatened to rock up here
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There have been numerous press reports that we're interested in him, how credible they are I have no idea but they'll be at least as credible as the sources in the takeover thread and look at how big that is!
 
Has to be some kind of late April fool's joke that we would choose him as our number one.

I honestly could not think of a worse choice. Apart from being useless he is a huge prick to boot

Someone with no arms would be preferable than Pickford
 
Would be an awful signing. An actual downgrade on what we have.
 
lsd said:
Has to be some kind of late April fool's joke that we would choose him as our number one.

I honestly could not think of a worse choice. Apart from being useless he is a huge prick to boot

Someone with no arms would be preferable than Pickford
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Of course there would be worse choices than Pickford - there are several keepers in the Premier League who performed worse than him last season. Around 4 years ago he was error prone and it seems like the majority of the caf still haven't moved on from that. Over the last 2 seasons he has been consistently good at shot stopping, commanding his area and distribution.

I personally wouldn't want him as our number 1 because he has an annoying passion merchant vibe about him, but let's not pretend that he would be the worst possible choice. Some of the hyperbole in this thread is mad.
 
2 man midfield said:
Why is this constantly at the top of the page? I haven’t seen anyone credible saying that he’s threatened to rock up here
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It is quite funny. There was one (admittedly quite reputable) journalist who claimed we were interested and everyone is freaking out massively about it.
 
arnie_ni said:
"Long range".

You've again been unable to explain why he's good?
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He can produce breathtaking saves. He never lets his head go down and is full of confidence. Makes his small frame go a long way in one on ones. Good(ish) pen stopper.

Again, he has faults and I don't think he's great, or top 4 material if you like, but the idea that he's shit is laughable. At one stage, I would have agreed with that but he has had a very good two years.
 
Gabriel Djemba-Bebe said:
Of course there would be worse choices than Pickford - there are several keepers in the Premier League who performed worse than him last season. Around 4 years ago he was error prone and it seems like the majority of the caf still haven't moved on from that. Over the last 2 seasons he has been consistently good at shot stopping, commanding his area and distribution.

I personally wouldn't want him as our number 1 because he has an annoying passion merchant vibe about him, but let's not pretend that he would be the worst possible choice. Some of the hyperbole in this thread is mad.
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I beg to differ. I would rather sign William Prunier and play him as keeper
 
DixieDean said:
He can produce breathtaking saves. He never lets his head go down and is full of confidence. Makes his small frame go a long way in one on ones. Good(ish) pen stopper.

Again, he has faults and I don't think he's great, or top 4 material if you like, but the idea that he's shit is laughable. At one stage, I would have agreed with that but he has had a very good two years.
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2 years? Wasn't he ranked like 19 out of 23 keepers last year or something? Fairly certain I've seen that when people have been posting references for ddg.

I did say he's had a good season but that seems to be abnormal rather than something that will become regular.
 
Of all the keepers we could look at to improve our ball retention from the back; if we go for Pickford then that would be the most bizarre lazy talent identification ever at this Club.
 
If we’re seriously considering buying this bellend for even a second, we might as well give up.

I don’t know if it’s our scouts, EtH or upper management but we seem to have a real disdain for up-and-coming talents. Instead, we seem to target players who haves already hit their ceiling.
 
arnie_ni said:
"Long range".

You've again been unable to explain why he's good?
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His shot stopping is excellent at any range. He gets caught out due to his height sometimes but that doesn’t = poor shot stopper. Good at pens, good distribution, big game player, oozes confidence, capable of being the difference in high pressure moments, good at 1 on 1s. He’s poor at dealing with crosses and sometimes has an error in him but every single keeper out there drops clangers. The best keeper in the league, Allison has had many clangers in his career (as has someone like Neuer) but they’re still exceptional keepers.

the notion that he’s crap is fecking nonsense.
 
SilentWitness said:
His shot stopping is excellent at any range. He gets caught out due to his height sometimes but that doesn’t = poor shot stopper. Good at pens, good distribution, big game player, oozes confidence, capable of being the difference in high pressure moments, good at 1 on 1s. He’s poor at dealing with crosses and sometimes has an error in him but every single keeper out there drops clangers. The best keeper in the league, Allison has had many clangers in his career (as has someone like Neuer) but they’re still exceptional keepers.

the notion that he’s crap is fecking nonsense.
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If you think Pickford is poor at crosses you should see De Gea.

In all seriousness I don't believe Pickford is crap like some, but I'm not that interested in signing him there is better available also selling Henderson just to sign Pickford for a likely loss would be mind nummingly stupid.
 
I don’t think Pickford is that bad and he’s better than 2023 De Gea. He’s not great at set pieces/crosses though, and we need that.
 
Longshanks said:
If you think Pickford is poor at crosses you should see De Gea.

In all seriousness I don't believe Pickford is crap like some, but I'm not that interested in signing him there is better available also selling Henderson just to sign Pickford for a likely loss would be mind nummingly stupid.
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it’s got Henderson part-exchange written all over it.
 
Don’t mind Pickford. I actually really like his personality as a keeper.

Always screaming at his CBs and being a right cnut to anyone and everyone in the box.

He also strikes me as a guy that’d genuinely rise to a big club and thrive in the pressure of the environment.

His performances for England are probably fairer to judge him on than his performances for Everton given the quality of the defence in front of him.

Obviously not a ‘sexy’ pick like an Onana, who I also really like, but I do think Pickford would be decent at Utd.

Pickford with Varane and Martinez would be a nice trio imo. I’d see that keeping a lot of clean sheets.

In fact, as dull as it may sound, a purely English window of Pickford, Eze, Rice and Kane (or Watkins if we’re gonna keep and play MG) would be great imo.
 
UnitedSofa said:
I don’t think he’s as bad as people think & think he’d do well for us
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Jordan Pickford would be a joke of a signing. I really don't like this player at all. Would be up there with Maguire as not a United player. Hopefully this is more paper talk. Pickford is a Spursy type of signing and they need a keeper so hopefully we are being paper talked as a lead pony.
 
glasgow 21 said:
Jordan Pickford would be a joke of a signing. I really don't like this player at all. Would be up there with Maguire as not a United player. Hopefully this is more paper talk. Pickford is a Spursy type of signing and they need a keeper so hopefully we are being paper talked as a lead pony.
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I don't think he's a bad player at all, but can't deny you've hit the nail on the head with "Spursy". He's definitely got that vibe and that would probably be his level.
 
Just imagine the scenario where the sale of the club lingers on right to the last day of the transfer window with us actually buying nobody.

Then on the last day the Glazers decide they do not want to sell the club and to appease the fan's fury they buy Pickford for a deadline deal of £75m.

Cue bedlam.
 
didz said:
I don't think he's a bad player at all, but can't deny you've hit the nail on the head with "Spursy". He's definitely got that vibe and that would probably be his level.
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The CAF has this weird level to determine a players skill, if they’re not good enough they’re immediately “league 1 or league 2” level or they should be playing in “the championship”

It’s not like Pickford has been England #1 taking us to a semi final and a final, keeping plenty of clean sheets along the way.

If he wasn’t English more people would be up for it. Put it this way, people who have seen even less of Onana are adamant they’ll have him over Pickford, just because he plays abroad.
 
UnitedSofa said:
The CAF has this weird level to determine a players skill, if they’re not good enough they’re immediately “league 1 or league 2” level or they should be playing in “the championship”

It’s not like Pickford has been England #1 taking us to a semi final and a final, keeping plenty of clean sheets along the way.

If he wasn’t English more people would be up for it. Put it this way, people who have seen even less of Onana are adamant they’ll have him over Pickford, just because he plays abroad.
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Like I said, I don't think he's a bad player at all. Spursy just seems to fit him so well somehow, for me anyway.
 
Pickford and Mount remind me of spending north of 100m in Maguire and AWB.
 
I hope Pickford is not one of our targets and is just bollocks from the media.

Don't think Ten Hag sees anything special in him and I think he will prefer many other goalkeepers who will be ahead of him.

29 years old GK , whose only attribute is to block a shot with liability on his footwork and his weaknesses are discipline and catching crosses. No Thanks !
 
didz said:
Like I said, I don't think he's a bad player at all. Spursy just seems to fit him so well somehow, for me anyway.
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I think Spursy is harsh. If you're referring to a keeper that is of CL/EL level then fair, but I think to associate with what 'Spursy' to me means and bottling etc then I think that's unfair as he's usually the player for England/Everton that steps up and handles big occasions.
 
UnitedSofa said:
The CAF has this weird level to determine a players skill, if they’re not good enough they’re immediately “league 1 or league 2” level or they should be playing in “the championship”

It’s not like Pickford has been England #1 taking us to a semi final and a final, keeping plenty of clean sheets along the way.

If he wasn’t English more people would be up for it. Put it this way, people who have seen even less of Onana are adamant they’ll have him over Pickford, just because he plays abroad.
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Only becuase he's one of Southgates favourites just like Maguire. Ramsdale and Pope are better IMO.

If he wasn't English there's not a chance he'd be getting linked with us.
 
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