I think the utter fear and terror that this is being linked with us is causing people to post in panic and keep it at the top of the page.
Jordan Pickford
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Not this argument again
the entire team is responsible for keeping clean sheets. If you want to compare GK stats, look at shots saved %, crosses stopped % and pass completion %. Pickford ranks above De Gea in all of those. Not that Pickford's stats are particularly exceptional (I want us to aim higher than someone of his calibre) but he's certainly better than 2023 De Gea.Pope is definitely better, but he's struggled a bit when he's played for England. Pickford is the opposite, where he's generally been very good for England even while struggling at times at his club side. Ramsdale I'm not sure about.
We all know he's going to end up here, don't we? You might just move the topic to the players section, we always make these kind of deals somehow.
If Pickford had done what Pope did vs Liverpool and got himself sent off for handling the ball outside his area, then he would still be getting memed up to this day. Because he's not a pantomime villain like Pickford, then those sorts of horrendous mistakes get quickly forgotten about.
We are trying to close the gap with City, signing player like Pickford certainly won't put us in the right direction. We should aim higher because the gap with City is really huge. Signing Pickford is like no upgrade at all or worse I think it will actually makes us weaker.
It wasn’t Allison, Ederson, Raya, Ramsdale or Pope either.All are better keepers than 2023 De Gea. You must be trolling, that’s terrible logic!
No he won't, many of the reputable sources haven't even mentioned him as an option.
Godspeed then.
Exactly. If he is on the list, I imagine he's quite low down on it.
Yeah, closer to the former. A bit like the Eric Dier/Dele Ale types when they were prominent - good players, to be sure, but if you're looking to win things you probably want to be doing better. Plus the fact that, by rubbing people the wrong way, they tend to get underrated a tad.
Can't fault Pickford's performances for his country and he's been one of the outstanding keeper's of the season, which shouldn't be a contentious statement to anyone really.
Harry Maguire was also part of the England team that took them to a semi final and final.
Pickford is a decent goalkeeper but Everton is about his level. At best he'd be a sideways step from the 2023 version of De Gea, he's not an improvement.
Pickford can play out from the back & I’m not the only one who has said this. That’s why EtH wants him.
Signing this clown when Brighton are getting a great prospect for peanuts and rumours of Costa, Maignan and Onana being available makes no sense
No, he can't and we don't know if Ten Hag wants him.
Hmmm not really...his long punts are pretty good but he's not much better than DDG with his short game. He's not stuck to his line as much, so provides a more sweeper keeper option
Personally I don't think EtH wants him and haven't seen any serious links to him. If we do go for him, it will only be because DDG leaves and we need a starting #1. Even then, it'll only be because the 2/3 preferred options didn't happen.
Agreed there, Pickford is better than Ramsdale. Would probably pick him over Pope too.
He can but Onana is better than him at it, for sure.
It's maybe due to Everton's tactics but I haven't seen him do it to a good level.
Good news that. I stopped watching United last season when I realised Maguire won’t get benched and everyone around him being blamed was too much for me.
Pickford is a chaos merchant and makes defenders look worse than they actually are. I can’t be dealing with us having the England number 1, that cannot be criticised because it might affect his form for England.
Tactics play a big part. Onana has had the privilege of playing for Ajax and Ten Hag who want a keeper like that whereas Pickford has played under managers who played to our strengths (Long ball and direct).
The same guy that let in 7 against the dippers and six against city. Stats can be massaged to suit
Of all the transfer rumours ever this one got me most annoyed in the quickest time.
I'd be furious
I'd be furious
Glad to hear that. Staying at Everton is his best option. He is highly valued there as one of the key players. Start regularly and adore by the fans.
If a random thread about a player gives you anxiety then perhaps football isn't for youThank god. Now stop bumping this thread people, it's giving me anxiety
You don't need to take everything quite so literally, it's just a way of saying i'm really not into this transfer, I don't rate the player and i honestly don't think he'd do particularly well here.
Goodness, I hope not. If anyone has a Grange Hill face, it's Pickford.
Please no
Newbie first post so please be gentle with me.
Accepting that De Gea won the Golden Gloves this season and therefore there is a clamour to retain him, I genuinely feel that if you are to kick on and build upon the fantastic season which you have just had, then replacing De Gea is a must. He has benefitted from having a decent back 4 in front of him and they should take much of the credit for the number of clean sheets this season. I have been hugely impressed with the development of the squad this season under ETH and he has shown that there is no sentiment when shipping players out as demonstrated with the swift departure of Cristian Ronaldo.
Don’t you still own Dean Henderson who I thought was going to be the natural heir to the Number 1 jersey at OT, surely it would be better to promote him and spend your transfer kitty on a 30 goal a season striker to complement the creativity of Bruno and the work ethic of Rashford et al?
Accepting that De Gea won the Golden Gloves this season and therefore there is a clamour to retain him, I genuinely feel that if you are to kick on and build upon the fantastic season which you have just had, then replacing De Gea is a must. He has benefitted from having a decent back 4 in front of him and they should take much of the credit for the number of clean sheets this season. I have been hugely impressed with the development of the squad this season under ETH and he has shown that there is no sentiment when shipping players out as demonstrated with the swift departure of Cristian Ronaldo.
Don’t you still own Dean Henderson who I thought was going to be the natural heir to the Number 1 jersey at OT, surely it would be better to promote him and spend your transfer kitty on a 30 goal a season striker to complement the creativity of Bruno and the work ethic of Rashford et al?
Welcome to the CAF, but being a Newbie won't save you
Most folks aren't adverse to replacing DDG, the main issue is that there's a split as to what priority that should be, taking given the transfer budgets restrictions some think, as I do, that it's not one of our higher priorities, others think it should be
Henderson has basically burned his bridges at the club, it would take a 180 turn for him to come back and many don't rate him highly enough either, and mention Pickford you'll get a LOT of grief!
Rashford and work ethic are not 2 words I'd use in the same sentence and as for Bruno, there are some that claim we'll never win anything meaningful whilst he's in the team - make of it what you will!
The negativity towards Pickford is ridiculous. He might be a knob but what do we think opposition fans think about someone like Bruno? Do we think they consider him a sensible chap that keeps himself to himself at all times? Point is, it's not really a reason to write a player off, it's only annoying when they're doing it on opposition teams, when they do it for you it can endear the player to fans.
Besides, having a bit of confidence and a few ideosyncratic qualities has rarely held goalkeepers back. It's a position where you can do nothing all game then have the potential to make one error that loses a game. It's no surprise many keepers are either ultra calm (See Edwin) or a bit crazy because of the environment they operate in. It takes something a bit different to be that guy at the top level.
He's better than David de Gea these days. Therefore an upgrade to our team. Quite simple for me. I'd rather a few other names but have no problem if ETH shortlists him.
Besides, having a bit of confidence and a few ideosyncratic qualities has rarely held goalkeepers back. It's a position where you can do nothing all game then have the potential to make one error that loses a game. It's no surprise many keepers are either ultra calm (See Edwin) or a bit crazy because of the environment they operate in. It takes something a bit different to be that guy at the top level.
He's better than David de Gea these days. Therefore an upgrade to our team. Quite simple for me. I'd rather a few other names but have no problem if ETH shortlists him.
Best news of the day if true. He just doesn't pass my eye test. Clumsy and long ball merchant. Basically anti-football.
Welcome to the CAF, but being a Newbie won't save you
Most folks aren't adverse to replacing DDG, the main issue is that there's a split as to what priority that should be, taking given the transfer budgets restrictions some think, as I do, that it's not one of our higher priorities, others think it should be
Henderson has basically burned his bridges at the club, it would take a 180 turn for him to come back and many don't rate him highly enough either, and mention Pickford you'll get a LOT of grief!
Rashford and work ethic are not 2 words I'd use in the same sentence and as for Bruno, there are some that claim we'll never win anything meaningful whilst he's in the team - make of it what you will!
Thanks for the positive response. I was not aware that Henderson had burned some bridges, but we fans are a fickle lot and if he was to return and pick up the reins, I expect that the majority of fans would get behind him. He is young, English and a great shot-stopper - whether he is a step up from DDG, remains to be seen But unless you are bought out and given a massive transfer budget, I think that a striker is the priority.
Accepting that Bruno is an acquired taste, he reminds me of Suarez when he was at Anfield. A nasty piece of work which every opposition fan hated, but I wanted someone like him in my team rather than playing against him any day of the week. Who cares what opposition fans think?
He was being rather matey with the staff when he walked in. This is a done deal, welcome to Manchester United Jordan.
Distribution in general yes, certainly, theres plenty. Pickfords long kicking stats are really good though, whereas De Gea's are really bad. If the manager wants a team thats focused on a particular way of playing and guys like Rashford and Fernandes are playing up front wanting to get behind the oppositions defence then a goalkeeper who consistently gets you up the pitch quickly makes a certain amount of sense. The fact that we ended up with Casemiro who's a cut and thrust player rather than de Jong who's a possession controller could be a contributing factor. This is just speculation though, no-one really knows what the manager is actually looking for.
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