He's the 5th CB and is mainly there to cover ON THE BENCH if there is an injury crisis.
What do you expect from him ? Did you prefer having Bailly instead of Evans ?
The goal we conceded was because we had two injuries in CB and our midfielders were exhausted so we were mainly in our box.
We can't blame Evans for his 15 mins.
I am sorry but if we need to find a guilty, ETH should be the one.
That's all the more reason not to sign even more of them!Fair enough but we have a lot of players who should not be playing for United in 2023 who are costing a whole lot more.
Maybe Ramos wanted to stay on Spain?Both Evans and Ramos were free agents this summer.
You can't tell me they didn't even look at Ramos who is levels above him and have the necessary leadership for the team and would be the perfect stop-gap for a season.
It was completely unnecessary and ridiculous to sign Evans when we had a much better option who went to Sevilla yesterday without asking for a big paycheck.
Sometimes, I think that quite a few of us will manage Manchester United better than the guys on the board.
Totally incompetent people are running Manchester United.
Both Evans and Ramos were free agents this summer.
You can't tell me they didn't even look at Ramos who is levels above him and have the necessary leadership for the team and would be the perfect stop-gap for a season.
It was completely unnecessary and ridiculous to sign Evans when we had a much better option who went to Sevilla yesterday without asking for a big paycheck.
Sometimes, I think that quite a few of us will manage Manchester United better than the guys on the board.
Totally incompetent people are running Manchester United.
Evans is not a stop gap, he's an emergency backup and the fact we needed him to play yesterday shows exactly why that role is useful. Evans is going to be content with not even being on the bench when our defenders are fit again, Sergio Ramos is not. He's also going to be wanting an astranomical wage relative to his ability.
He's also a cnut.
We need a defender much better than Evans there's no doubting that, but we can't afford it and it couldn't happen so we need to move on.
Ramos wouldn't come in to be 6th choice in the role, and from what I hear (haven't watched him myself for years) he's not good enough anymore to be any higher than 4th choice (which he also wouldn't accept).Both Evans and Ramos were free agents this summer.
You can't tell me they didn't even look at Ramos who is levels above him and have the necessary leadership for the team and would be the perfect stop-gap for a season.
It was completely unnecessary and ridiculous to sign Evans when we had a much better option who went to Sevilla yesterday without asking for a big paycheck.
Sometimes, I think that quite a few of us will manage Manchester United better than the guys on the board.
Totally incompetent people are running Manchester United.
Ramos wouldn't come in to be 6th choice in the role, and from what I hear (haven't watched him myself for years) he's not good enough anymore to be any higher than 4th choice (which he also wouldn't accept).
6th.What option do you think Evans is ?
6th.
Varane
Martinez
Lindelof
Maguire
Shaw
Evans
Possibly swap Maguire and Shaw, as ETH had periods last season where Shaw was ahead but at the end of the season it was back to Maguire.
It took four of the players ahead of him to be injured before Evans got a game. How many teams in the world can bring in somebody better than Evans if they've got four defenders out?
From what people who watch him have said Ramos is physically finished and wouldn't be ahead of Lindelof either, so he'd be 4th choice at best. Do you think he'd be interested in that, especially since he'd be coming to the most physical league in the world that would highlight his decline even further?I am stating that if we had signed Ramos as free agent he would have been our third option when Varane is injured (that is most of the time) and he would have been our cb pair with Licha. Ramos would have been 10x times the better signing than finished and useless Evans.
To be honest I don't think the idea was ever to rely on Jonny Evans in an away game against Arsenal.
Varane, Martinez, Maguire, Lindelof, even a fit Luke Shaw should be ahead of him. A weird set of circumstances to be honest.
From what people who watch him have said Ramos is physically finished and wouldn't be ahead of Lindelof either, so he'd be 4th choice at best. Do you think he'd be interested in that, especially since he'd be coming to the most physical league in the world that would highlight his decline even further?
I hugely rate Ramos at his peak, but it doesn't matter how good you once were if you are physically finished. We've seen that first hand with the likes of Ronaldo, Schweinsteiger, Sanchez, etc. Like I said, I haven't seen him myself so maybe people were exaggerating, but I've seen numerous people say that the same now applies to Ramos. I'm sure he'd still be ahead of Evans (who also seems physically finished while obviously never being as good), but being ahead of Lindelof is another matter entirely.Yes he would have been interested and i think Casemiro would have helped him here too and he is miles better than Evans (He would have been third choice too because Ten Hag would prefer him over Lindelof that i know for sure). Sorry but there is no debate here you are comparing 4x CL winner here , European and World Cup champion with Evans.
Very debatable that it was more important spending 150m on those 2 positions than for example CBs or DMs
Why are some people saying he is the 5th choice CB?
He should not be playing for United in 2023 even as the 20th choice CB.
The blame is on the management .
Lindelof and Maguire are definitely better than Bailly.Wasn't good enough 10 years ago. It can only be a joke he's signed now.
Are people really serious when they say him, Maguire, Lindelöf etc. are better than the likes of Bailly?
We're supposed to be one of the best clubs in the world trying to buy the best players or up and coming ones. Not signing ex players well past their best and playing like it's their testimonial. I don't see City resigning Joleon Lescott.
It's a good plan, but with 3 weaknesses.Evans seems fine as a temporary 5th choice. Having him come on during a tight game away at Arsenal isn’t ideal though. You’d think he’d be best used to replace Varane if we’re 3 up at half time against relegation fodder.
Sevilla are his original local club. It's not the same with United.Yes he would have been interested and i think Casemiro would have helped him here too and he is miles better than Evans (He would have been third choice too because Ten Hag would prefer him over Lindelof that i know for sure). Sorry but there is no debate here you are comparing 4x CL winner here , European and World Cup champion with Evans.
I think I would've rather have seen Casemiro play there to be honest.The alternative was so sign no one, because football clubs don't tend to buy players in order for them to be their sixth choice centerhalf. Or even have a sixth choice.
I'm sorry, but I don't see why the level of Evans is an issue. Having him is better than having no one, and obviously the expectation was - and still is - that he wouldn't be playing much if at all, and only in emergencies. You can't legislate for having Martinez, Varane, Shaw and Lindelof out at the same time, plus McTominay who might have been an option.
I mean, we had centerhalf problems during Fergie's days, and had to move Fletcher and Carrick back. was that better?
I think I would've rather have seen Casemiro play there to be honest.
Yes I really would, we could've put Hannibal on in midfield. Anyway I think we're going to have to agree to disagree on this. You're happy with a defender who's Championship level at best now and I'm happy with a midfielder playing out of position.You would not. Because the defence would have still been weakned, and we'd have also damaged our midfield by taking out our best midfielder. The midfielder who set up Garnacho for what could have been a winning goal, but according to your plan would not have been there to thread that pass as he would have been at the backline.
Yes I really would, we could've put Hannibal on in midfield. Anyway I think we're going to have to agree to disagree on this. You're happy with a defender who's Championship level at best now and I'm happy with a midfielder playing out of position.
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