CloneMC16
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Evans in 2023. Continue to be a banter club after 10 years. Sad.
Not when they are 1-2 yards further away and free. You think that distance can't be made up or something when they are free?So it doesn’t matter that they are further away. . . Good lord.
Both of ye spot on. Absolutely shocking but not surprising from the club. Jobs for the lads. Amateurish and embarrassing. Club is beyond rotten.You're spot on. Too many top reds pleased that he's back, he was never good enough when he was here before and he certainly isn't now. This another example of how poorly run this club is.
I’m not ignoring anything.Not when they are 1-2 yards further away and free. You think that distance can't be made up or something when they are free?
And I love how you ignore the fact that they just have to maintain their spot at near post for the ball to not go in.
Good lord
Nah, not a chance. I was only thinking he was here for pre-season to get some fitness and will be out once he has found a new club. I was shocked to find out that we actually offered him a 1-year deal and that too on deadline day when it was obvious no other club was in for him. This signing is literally jobs for boys. He got released from a team that was relegated yet here we are bringing him on against Arsenal.Just a quick question to the forum. Do any of you think that City or any top European clubs would re - sign a former player now aged 35 who had been released by a club which had been relegated to a lower division.
My thinking is no.
Absolutely incredible that in 2023 in a match tied 1-1 at Arsenal, Manchester United are playing Jonathan Grant Evans and Jacob Harry Maguire as the center back pairing.
It's indefensible that he was re-signed.
He wasn't good enough when he left.
He's worse now. People were claiming he wouldn't play in meaningful games, but he just did and was one of the culprits for the 2nd goal and generally looked out of place all game.
Apparently they were the Leicester pairing back in 2018.
As a side note, I'm surprised his first name is Jacob.
No, they wouldn't. Just like they wouldn't have signed a player as rubbish as Wout. This summer, unlike what top European clubs would do, we went for Rabiot or Amrabat, the cheap options. Loans. It's the horrible Glazers. I wish they would just sell and feck off.Just a quick question to the forum. Do any of you think that City or any top European clubs would re - sign a former player now aged 35 who had been released by a club which had been relegated to a lower division.
My thinking is no.
Absolutely incredible that in 2023 in a match tied 1-1 at Arsenal, Manchester United are playing Jonathan Grant Evans and Jacob Harry Maguire as the center back pairing.
One of those is a left back, so actually 4th and 5th choice. Also, our first choice defenders are very injury prone (not unlike the rest of the squad) so all things considered, yes, we ought to have more depth at center back.You’re never getting better quality than those, considering the pecking order they sit at. What better player than those is available that is 5th and 6th choice centre backs?
I mean they sit behind: Varane, Martinez, Shaw, Lindelof.
I’d even argue to say, that Maguire and Evans may be some of the best quality 5th and 6th choice centre backs in the world. And I’m being serious.
It’s just incredibly unfortunate that all 4 of our first choice centre backs are injured. You can’t pin this one on the board or ETH.
You won’t find more talented players happy to (potentially) barely get a game at all.
One of those is a left back, so actually 4th and 5th choice. Also, our first choice defenders are very injury prone (not unlike the rest of the squad) so all things considered, yes, we ought to have more depth at center back.
Lindelof who is mostly injured should be 4th choice. So you're now talking about a top quality center back to share the duties with a perennially injured Varane and Martinez. I'd even say Kim might have come. But clearly you could have someone far better than Maguire.But what higher quality CB is going to want to sit at even 4th or 5th choice?
Lindelof who is mostly injured should be 4th choice. So you're now talking about a top quality center back to share the duties with a perennially injured Varane and Martinez. I'd even say Kim might have come. But clearly you could have someone far better than Maguire.
He's 5th choice, what do people expect? We could have a younger player in there I guess, but I don't think you can expect a better player to be 5th choice.
Huh?Lindelof who is mostly injured should be 4th choice. So you're now talking about a top quality center back to share the duties with a perennially injured Varane and Martinez. I'd even say Kim might have come. But clearly you could have someone far better than Maguire.
Just a quick question to the forum. Do any of you think that City or any top European clubs would re - sign a former player now aged 35 who had been released by a club which had been relegated to a lower division.
My thinking is no.
100% this. 5th choice and on considerably less money than Bailly & Jones I would imagine. I think it was fairly decent business to be honest. Just bad luck with Injuries that we actually had to play him against a top side.
It amazes me the amount of drama queens on here acting as if we are about to go into the Champions League Final with Evans at the back. Look the guy was a free, wasn’t expected to get much game time but he’s an older calm head that will be good for the dressing room and the young lads. I have no issues with Evans being at the club.
I'm sick of this, what does being old and "not good enough for United back then, become a banter icon, and sold unceremoniously" brings to the table?
What is it that Jonny Evans can teach to this kids?
Why are some people saying he is the 5th choice CB?
He should not be playing for United in 2023 even as the 20th choice CB.
The blame is on the management .
It might be tiresome now to bring up Mount all the time, but still, we could, more or less, have had Todibo + Pavard (as an example, obviously there are other similarly priced options out there) in for the price of 1 Mount.The guy has been in the game a long time. I’m not saying he’s coming into to coach the kids to become world class players but he does have a a fair wealth of experience with over 200 premier league and 100 international games. To put it in other terms, for example if you think a policeman with 15 years experience has absolutely nothing to teach a rookie cop then you’re mad.
Again, cheap as chips, 4th or 5th choice, hands tied with FFP and I have no issue with this. I know some on here probably think we should have signed Ramos or someone of that ilk for 5th choice but let’s be realistic for once.
Why are some people saying he is the 5th choice CB?
He should not be playing for United in 2023 even as the 20th choice CB.
The blame is on the management .
OK let's be realistic. We've signed an old "cheap as chips" defender because the club lacks ambition. We look no better now than we did a year ago. Or two years ago. Or three. And so on. The recruitment is shocking, the forward planning nonexistent.Again, cheap as chips, 4th or 5th choice, hands tied with FFP and I have no issue with this. I know some on here probably think we should have signed Ramos or someone of that ilk for 5th choice but let’s be realistic for once.
It might be tiresome now to bring up Mount all the time, but still, we could, more or less, have had Todibo + Pavard (as an example, obviously there are other similarly priced options out there) in for the price of 1 Mount.
We could have added 2 strong CBs earlier instead of taking a 90m chance on Antony.
We could have added a younger CB earlier instead of Varane, his injury record was a bit of a concern before we bought him.
The money has been spent, it just comes down to decisions.
Martinez is also becoming injury proneGot quoted couple of dozen times when I expressed my anger at signing a CB who was never good enough in the first place. "He is 5th choice, won't play much" "Our fans are such cnuts, can't support a club legend"
Y'all deserve everything these leeches in Glazers do at this club, because of complete lack of standards. Varane, Lindelof sick notes means any 4th/5th choice CBs would get game time. So, we keep Maguire and sign Evans, lovely.
Why are some people saying he is the 5th choice CB?
He should not be playing for United in 2023 even as the 20th choice CB.
The blame is on the management .
I've no confidence the club could have found a better player. Are there options out there? Absolutely. Could the clowns at the club find them? Nope.
We've a load of scouts but our targets are either people ten Hag knows or people Rio Ferdinand knows.
That's honestly so stupid, it feels like a parody. If the idea is to prep for a coaching job then do it already, give him his money but keep him away from the pitch. Any U21 is a better option at the back than someone who wasn't good enough 10 years. There aren't many clubs capable of coming up with this level of idiocy in EuropeExactly. You don't bring a guy like Evans back, so you never have a reason to get him on the pitch.
Real Madrid's main CB did his ACL and you don't see them bringing Ramos back who was actually really great for them. They never look back and we keep doing this nostalgic shit for no reason.
Of course, Evans is fecking finished and has been for a while.He's the 5th CB and is mainly there to cover ON THE BENCH if there is an injury crisis.
What do you expect from him ? Did you prefer having Bailly instead of Evans ?
The goal we conceded was because we had two injuries in CB and our midfielders were exhausted so we were mainly in our box.
We can't blame Evans for his 15 mins.
I am sorry but if we need to find a guilty, ETH should be the one.
Very debatable that it was more important spending 150m on those 2 positions than for example CBs or DMsWe could have done a lot of things, but a younger midfield player was absolutely neccesary - whether Mount is the right man or not. An attacker like Antony was needed - whether he's the right man or not.