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2023-24 Performances


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5.5 Season Average Rating
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30
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8
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It's your stance that is revisionism, sorry.
There's a reason Smalling won the 2015/16 POTY, interrupting DDG's run of 4 seasons either side of it.
Your statement is factually wrong, sorry. The player who interrupted De Gea's run of 4 POTY awards was Herrera. If you're referring to the player's POTY, De Gea won that 3 times and that was interrupted by two players: Valencia and Smalling.
 
Your statement is factually wrong, sorry. The player who interrupted De Gea's run of 4 POTY awards was Herrera. If you're referring to the player's POTY, De Gea won that 3 times and that was interrupted by two players: Valencia and Smalling.

Ok he broke within a series of 3 then :lol:

He was very clearly the best CB from 2013 to Martinez, including in many physical battles with strong and fast players including Kane, and was great in the air. I don't think it's a coincidence that the embarrassing derby scorelines have become so common after he left.
 
Still remember PSV away where their coach literally said we will let Smalling have the ball in the build up to the game. Blind was marked and instantly pressed whilst Smalling had zero pressure. We struggled to move the ball all game and lost.

Well. If you depend on a CB to move the ball forward, instead of both (or three) of your CMs, then it's a pretty stupid team setup.
 
Ok he broke within a series of 3 then :lol:

He was very clearly the best CB from 2013 to Martinez
I would argue that Blind and Varane were better CBs during that period.
I don't think it's a coincidence that the embarrassing derby scorelines have become so common after he left.
We can all cherry-pick metrics to suit our opinions, eg I don't think it's a coincidence that the only time we got back to back top 4 finishes was after Smalling left. It feels slightly reductionist to say that, as there are other factors that lead to those outcomes, however the position we finished in the league table is obviously a better metric than derby games that occur twice a year.
 
Martínez and Varane last season was probably our best CB pairing since Vidić and Rio.
If they'd stayed fit they might have, but they both missed way too many games to overtake Smalling-Blind in 15/16. As it was they only started 16 league games together. Indeed, we conceded 25 goals in those 16 games, although the 7 against Liverpool and 6 against City obviously make a huge difference. Of course, being the partnership at the back for both those games isn't a good look in itself.
 
Chelsea 4:3 Man Utd
He played well for the few minutes he was on the pitch.... not even a joke. Short performance but an excellent block and multiple good defensive moments too.
 
He played well for the few minutes he was on the pitch.... not even a joke. Short performance but an excellent block and multiple good defensive moments too.
He did but we need to play Kambwala now. We’ve got nothing to play for so we might as well see if he’s good enough.
 
He played well for the few minutes he was on the pitch.... not even a joke. Short performance but an excellent block and multiple good defensive moments too.

He’s been one of our best players this season. No jokes. Reliable and gives 110% every time
 
It’s actually funny how much better he is than all the other useless bastards we’ve been playing in the same position.

Seems like we would have been better off just keeping Evans instead of throwing away all the money on players like Maguire, Rojo, Varane and others. Varane is a better player but i dont think our results would have been worse with Evans in the team instead.
 
Shame he's on his last legs. Should never have been sold. The fact LVG sold him makes it an even stranger move.

That said, can't remember too many at the time - myself included - having much of an issue with the decision.
 
Seems like we would have been better off just keeping Evans instead of throwing away all the money on players like Maguire, Rojo, Varane and others. Varane is a better player but i dont think our results would have been worse with Evans in the team instead.
Yep, which probably could be said about Nani, hernandez, Rafael... We've spent so much money and hardly had huge upgrades.
 
It’s a major pity that Father Time is destroying Johnny at the minute. Our most reliable defender this season. His body isn’t no longer built for the 30 odd games he has played this season.
 
He played well for the few minutes he was on the pitch.... not even a joke. Short performance but an excellent block and multiple good defensive moments too.

Absolutely. 20-minute cameo but he was one of our best players, by far the best defender. Actually think it was two or three crucial blocks and he probably won all his duels.
 
What a situation it is when an ancient Jonny Evans looks one of the more viable options in our defence.

It's partly credit to him that he's looked after himself and still has good ability, but it's a very sad indictment on the likes of Maguire and Lindelof who have never convinced and the rather pathetic Varane.

We've been unfortunate with missing Martinez this season, huge loss as this lot aren't up to it.
 
Will Jonny be at United next year then? Assuming Varane is leaving ...
 
Will Jonny be at United next year then? Assuming Varane is leaving ...
From our point of view, there's really no reason not to keep him as a cheap backup if he wants to continue. Based on his performances this season he's still capable of playing that role, and he's almost certainly a great presence in the dressing room and good influence on the youngsters. Even if his lack of pace means that he's not ideal for the style that INEOS wants going forward, I expect his professionalism and history under Fergie would see them wanting him to stick around.

So it'll probably depend on him. If he wants to play more games (hopefully he wouldn't play so many with us as he has this season) I wouldn't be surprised if a team at the lower end of the ladder tries to get him. Alternatively he might feel it's time to retire. Personally I think he'll most likely still be with us for at least one more season.
 
I'm not sure why we thought selling him and Smalling was a good idea.

The players we brought in, at massive expense, simply weren't as good.
 
I'm not sure why we thought selling him and Smalling was a good idea.

The players we brought in, at massive expense, simply weren't as good.
Yep. Evans did have one bad season under LVG which is why he then got sold, and the idea was that we wanted to bring in defenders more comfortable on the ball than Smalling. But in hindsight, an Evans-Smalling defence would probably have been our best defence for the last decade. Hopefully Martinez gets over the injuries and becomes a clear upgrade, but we have to go to the transfer market again to find a second (unless Kambwala really steps up).
 
I'm not sure why we thought selling him and Smalling was a good idea.

The players we brought in, at massive expense, simply weren't as good.

Not sure if you were around at the time or have forgotten, but he put in one of the all time worst premier league defensive seasons the season we sold him, culminating in that horrible spit off v Cisse.

That we've had a bit of a disaster on recruitment since doesn't mean it was wrong to ship him.
 
Not sure if you were around at the time or have forgotten, but he put in one of the all time worst premier league defensive seasons the season we sold him, culminating in that horrible spit off v Cisse.

That we've had a bit of a disaster on recruitment since doesn't mean it was wrong to ship him.
It’s one of many extremely bad decisions. Ridiculous!
 
Selling him off wasn't the mistake. The mistake was the replacements we brought in. Same with smalling. Same with ddg now. There comes a time when people need to be moved on.

Hindsight can show you that the replacements aren't good enough but that doesn't mean the idea behind replacing is wrong.
 
Selling him off wasn't the mistake. The mistake was the replacements we brought in. Same with smalling. Same with ddg now. There comes a time when people need to be moved on.

Hindsight can show you that the replacements aren't good enough but that doesn't mean the idea behind replacing is wrong.
Rojo, Blind, Bailly, Lindelof. That list is pretty bad, especially since Lindelof is the best of these lads and still nowhere good enough to start for us.
 
Rojo, Blind, Bailly, Lindelof. That list is pretty bad, especially since Lindelof is the best of these lads and still nowhere good enough to start for us.
Agreed, although Blind wasnt bought to replace Evans, but got transitioned there. 14m for Blind wasnt the worst business, and he did well at times as LB, DM and CB.
The others horrid. And well, Maguire for that price, yes, we could have just kept Evans. But the issue is a bigger one in terms of signings we make.
Same with selling Rafael. His replacements (darmian, AWB, Dalot) arent exactly huge upgrades.

We just waste money, and if we had a structure about ten years ago, and set style we wanted to go for, we would defo be in a better position regardless of who our owners were (although the issue being the owners meant we couldnt have that structure to ensure we didnt waste money like we have).
 
Rumours on Twitter he failed a fitness test, but played anyway due to injuries.

Feel for Evans. Tries his best but he should never of had to play as much as he has this year.
 
He was probably not ready but had to play due to lack of options.

If we sell Varane and Lindelof this summer and loan Kambwala, I'd be for giving Evans another year. Play him occasionally, not often obviously but he's been solid for us given his age and circumstances of playing in a poor side that's conceding chances and shots all the time.
 
Can't fault him, he's clearly not fully fit. But he always gives 100%. Doubt he expected to play as much as he has this season.
 
I feel sorry for him. He supposes to be a long stay in Manutd. Now he is back and gives his all but suffers such a nightmare season. I hope he can stay next year. He can still contribute. Hope next year, he and the team can enjoy a trophy win with a solid season.
 
Maybe it's me but some people are watching his performances with nostalgic glasses.

Passive for the goal, lofted a brainless ball to the left channel and other than that was okay.

He's probably injured and not match fit so I'm not blaming him but I've see comments across the board throughout this season like he's playing extremely well when it's been really mixed.

Again, he shouldn't be put in this position and perhaps it's a low expectations vs performance thing.
 
Thought he did well. Clearly being asked to play when not 100% fit.

Hope he has enough in him for the game on Wednesday :nervous:
 
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