He reminds me at times of Mickey. Mickey was one of the most natural defenders I ever saw but he always a mistake up his sleeve.
Though, I got high hopes for Evans. I think he'll come good in the long run.
Jonny Evans | 2011/12 Performances
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He reminds me at times of Mickey. Mickey was one of the most natural defenders I ever saw but he always a mistake up his sleeve.
Though, I got high hopes for Evans. I think he'll come good in the long run.
Remind you of someone, who incidentally has gone back to being pretty shit now? In between, he was the best defender in the world for a good three seasons.
We're talking about this season. A season in which he's put the bad form of last season behind him and generally been one of our better central defenders. Which was my point.
True. He's been doing well but should have dealt with that ball comfortably. Nevertheless, at this level any mistake costs you and he has to take a lot of blame
He may or may not be a good defender... the debate could go on forever... the problem is that he simply doesn't show confidence when he plays... I may be wrong... but I personally hate it when I see him on the pitch... he's the only Manchester United player that gives that impression btw...
We're 9 games in and he's already thrown in the towel!!
I think our defending overall has been quite poor, we've conceded an awful lot of shots in our area, with no vidic and a badly performing evra and rio, I think you can only make that statement by default.
I havent yet figured out why this has been so, I wonder how much influence edwin had on organising the back line? Could it be Vida?
Either way, Jones is doing well, and so is smalling,,, I'd rather we went with them.
Evans has been mostly very good this season. Some of you guys seem to have very short memories judging players on a game to game basis. Yesterday was a brain fart which happens to players occasionally. We seem to forget their human beings.
Central defenders are not at their best and are prone to make mistakes until at the very least until they are 26/27. They also generally play against the most gifted players opposition has to offer.
Central defenders are not at their best and are prone to make mistakes until at the very least until they are 26/27. They also generally play against the most gifted players opposition has to offer.
Also worth remembering that these guys have all grown used to having Van der Sar behind them - anyone's going to miss that reassuring presence, experience and know how, however good De Gea is.
In fact, Evans is our only CB who's looked better this season than last - not easy to do with all the comings and goings at the back.
The fact remains that whilst he was on pitch, we didn't defend as embarrassingly as we did when he left. So its a bit rich to rubbish him so whole heartedly for his one error.
Going by some of the posts on here we'd have a new set of players every time we lose a game.
Well from an analysis perspective he's had the most room to improve!
for me, I'd rather have jones or smalling in his place - simply as they are better footballers
What do you mean he's thrown in the towel? Made one mistake? They've all thrown in the towel if so.
Better footballers do not necessarily make better defenders.
he has to take the blame for the thrashing we got in the 2nd half, give us a huge mountain to climb, at fault for the 1st goal too.... i dunno when he ever learn to cut out his mistakes?
Huge mistake yesterday that cost us big time. Hope he learns from this and grows as a player and individual. It wa far too early in the to make such a potentially costly challenge.
The reason why we suffered from that is because we were chasing the game with ten men,
you're always gonna over commit in that case. This is an unfair comparison.
Do you think we would have conceded 3 in thel ast 3 mins if we hadnt lost the extra man?
Franz Beckenbaur disagrees.
But yeah, you can still be a good strong physical player a la vidic and be a top defender, unfortunately for Jonny he isnt that, yet.
In that his sending off was hardly good was it. Pogue was suggesting he's been playing well this season - you cant say that after the city game, ergo - thrown in the towel
That doesn't make any sense. One bad game (though in reality it was one bad mistake in an otherwise decent performance) means you write off his entire season thus far? That's madness. Not to mention the phrase 'thrown in the towel' refers to giving up or not trying which isn't a criticism that can be levelled at Evans who is one of the most honest and game lads we have.
Does jonny look a bit skinny? Has he lost weight? He just seems to be in trouble against big strong attackers. He was fine against the tricky Suarez but it seems the bigger the player the more he struggles?
To be honest, I actually think that his performances this season have been ok. He has looked like he is getting some confidence back and didn't look as shaky as he did at times last season.
He was actually having a decent enough game before the red yesterday.
He was actually having a decent enough game before the red yesterday.
I don't know why he didn't let Balo through. He still had to beat the keeper. You can't do that when last man
reminds me of Silvestre. can be decent at times but always seems to be one big mistake away from costing us a game. like someone else pointed out every time he's on the 1st team I'm worried.
A fecking men Sultan. It's like if you can't be a playmaker from the back, all your other attributes as a defender are irrelevant.
I think thats true and its something I mention on Twitter. As well as he was playing on Sunday I never felt truely relaxed when the ball went near him.
He's capable of fecking somewhere along the way and thats not good.
Hopefully as he's gets older that won't happen as much.
Kept Kavin Davies in his pocket with ease when we played Bolton.
Silvestre never quite got there, imo. kept waiting for him to get consistently good only to see him feck up again. was glad we sold him tbh.
and on his current form I'd say the same about Evans.
Handled Suarez as well after Ferdinand got a yellow.
What is all this "I don't feel comfortable with him" bollocks?
How was he at blame for the first goal? One of the midfielders should have been defending outside the 18 yard box waiting for any cut backs. Evans positioning for the goal was very instinctive of a good defender; opposition player at byline close to goal - get to front post to block cross.
Unfortunately Balotelli was too 'smart' and lost his marker by waiting outside the area, but this should have been picked up by a midfielder.
If Evans hadn't come on to the the near post to block the cross, then Aguero would have easily been able to lose Ferdinand for a simple tap in.
Sometimes you have to hold your hands up. It was a great ball from Silva (who shouldn't have been allowed the ball in such space in such a position - this was the BIG defensive mistake), in to the path of the good run from Milner, then a good ball to Balotelli, and then a superb finish. Good goal. Game on.
Awful decison making from Evans for the red card though. I really got myself physced up for the second half, because we ended the first in such promising fashion. Real pitty, as I'm sure we could have gone on to win it!
Unfortunately Balotelli was too 'smart' and lost his marker by waiting outside the area, but this should have been picked up by a midfielder.
If Evans hadn't come on to the the near post to block the cross, then Aguero would have easily been able to lose Ferdinand for a simple tap in.
Sometimes you have to hold your hands up. It was a great ball from Silva (who shouldn't have been allowed the ball in such space in such a position - this was the BIG defensive mistake), in to the path of the good run from Milner, then a good ball to Balotelli, and then a superb finish. Good goal. Game on.
Awful decison making from Evans for the red card though. I really got myself physced up for the second half, because we ended the first in such promising fashion. Real pitty, as I'm sure we could have gone on to win it!
Dreadful excuse. We chased that game with 10 men in the FAC cup semi final last season for example. It didn't end with us coneeding 3 in 3 minutes at the death. For me the defence was too embarrassing for words. I can't get that goal from the corner out of my mind. That was relegation level stuff.
So he's had a brain fart against City and gave a penalty away against Arsenal.
Saying that he put in some good tackles against Chelsea especially one or two on Torres.
He can defend and I think his lapses have got more to do with his concentration.
Saying that he put in some good tackles against Chelsea especially one or two on Torres.
He can defend and I think his lapses have got more to do with his concentration.
Agreed - that's what makes it so fecking irritating though. He's got it in him to make it here but if he keeps switching off like that he'll throw it away.
I don't think it's anything to do with physique or technique, it's all just concentration.
Baldwin is right. Evans like Koscielny at Arsenal, simply has problems with his concentration. They can be ironed out of him.
They were ironed out of Rio. Not saying they are at the same level, but still...
oi!!
I want to take all credit for this as I posted it first!!!!!!!!!
Don't just lump all this on him what about the really poor defensive clearance from Rio that put Evans in that postion in the first place ?
Not trying to make an excuse for what happened yesterday but anyone who has been watching us over the last few weeks should have seen a 'hammering' coming, just a pity it was to City
Play him at left back for a few games. It'll help improve his positioning and concerntration.
It's all yoursoi!!
I want to take all credit for this as I posted it first!!!!!!!!!
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