You guys make too big of a deal about transfer fees. The only thing that matters is if Felix contributes heavily to Atletico reaching their goals. If he is able to than it was a good signing.
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It matters. They spent it as they had griezmann cash and the league suits him. In our case its not ideal to spend on a kid who is not ready physically to play in this league.
Not now, but in few years, yes.
Neither was Griezmann, who only got a couple of times more than 20+ league goals in a season through his career.
Not saying I agree with a fee. Despite being a Benfica fan, it's clearly too soon.
I meant in all comps, as he regularly did that. It was only this year he didn't get 25. I'm still unsure he will be as prolific as him, but hey, I have been proven very wrong in the past.
They play more or less in the same position and occupy similar space. Griezmann has clearly the upper-hand on shot technique, Felix has a very good close control. But Griemann is a player much more suited to a direct style, while Félix prefers to receive the ball from deep positions.
Felix is very talented and can turn out to be one of the best of his generation. He can fail however and be a massive error for atlético, being a great deal for Benfica in the end. Wrong, this deal is the typical Mendes deal in which he moves a player for big money, receives a big percentage of it and surely Benfica will spend its part of the cake in other Mendes players. The money is always moving from club to club through Mendes system. I find this very worrying, as my club is one of main Mendes clients and I don't want to see it involved in this kind of strange deals. Concerning João, I'm confident he will suceed and that Spanish league suits him well.
Yeah, Griezmann is also very good in the air for a smaller guy. The fact that from the little I've seen of Felix, but the analysis videos say he tends to pick the ball up in between the lines, tells me I'm not sure he will match his goals.
If i got an euro for every time you mentioned the Frankfurt game, i could have lobster for dinner tonight.
I see this thread full of Sporting/Porto fans criticizing the player... Always a good sign
Is he worth 120 currently? Of course not. Should Benfica let him go for less than the release clause? No, there is no need
But if Atletico is willing to spend that money... Deal. The rest of you just have to stop whining
Is he worth 120 currently? Of course not. Should Benfica let him go for less than the release clause? No, there is no need
But if Atletico is willing to spend that money... Deal. The rest of you just have to stop whining
I see this thread full of Sporting/Porto fans criticizing the player... Always a good sign
Is he worth 120 currently? Of course not. Should Benfica let him go for less than the release clause? No, there is no need
But if Atletico is willing to spend that money... Deal. The rest of you just have to stop whining
It's natural to comment more on the players that you know better, hence the higher amount of Portuguese people posting.
And if you read them you'll notice similar opinions, regardless of which club we support.
This isnt a Portuguese forum so lets please leave the "Benfica vs the world" attitude out of this.
Yeah. "Benfica vs the world".
In the meantime:
"Broccoli,
In reality, Benfica's president is desperate for money. His bet on youth development is just another facade for making dirty euros. After all, to maintain this system where they pay second, third and forth parties which, in turn, pay refs, other teams, judges, politicians, etc, gets easily very expensive. That's Benfica's machine and how they operate."
Desperate times translates into desperate attitudes... 18 years and counting, keep crying greenish blue lizards.
In the meantime:
"Broccoli,
In reality, Benfica's president is desperate for money. His bet on youth development is just another facade for making dirty euros. After all, to maintain this system where they pay second, third and forth parties which, in turn, pay refs, other teams, judges, politicians, etc, gets easily very expensive. That's Benfica's machine and how they operate."
Desperate times translates into desperate attitudes... 18 years and counting, keep crying greenish blue lizards.
Exactly why you should stop whining here and in a "portuguese football" thread populated solely by porto/sporting fans crying their hearts out
I personally don't get too upset about losing the league title when my club is not run properly. I worry more about watching good football in my club but also the league in which we play in. Currently it's not a fair competition hence my accusations, nothing against the institution of Benfica.
Welcome to the fórum.
You shouldn't spread fake news.
"The portuguese media regulator ran a first analysis of the occurrence and decides that Porto's CD is deliberately quoting pieces of text without context or straight forward manipulating sentences to fit his side of the story.
A court ordered Porto's CD to stop broadcasting this sensitive intel on TV while investigation went on.
A week ago, the first court decision from an ongoing process came out saying that, after analyzing the e-mails and Porto's CD's strategy, he was indeed broadcasting fake and manipulated e-mails with the intention of deliberately damaging Benfica's image and that they must pay 2 million euros in damage to begin with."
I could also bring on the discussion the meeting between the 2 communaction directors (FC Porto and Sporting CP) at Altis Hotel in 2017 to prepare the media "strategy" (massive investment and creation of fake news blogs; creation of fake facebook accounts, etc) all of this to judge Benfica in the public court (they knew that they had nothing to go through in the real courts), so that was/is the strategy.
You can try to fool your own flock, but stop trying to do so abroad.
Greetings
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So the tax fee would be 100%? At least try to make it look like you know what the hell you're talking about.
Cancelo, Nelson Semedo, Renato Sanches, Guedes, Bernardo Silva, André Gomes, Ruben Dias, Ferro, Fiorentino, Gedson... and many more on the way, but yeah our youth development system is just another facade.
As for the rest of your rant i wont even comment further. 5 titles in 6 years... must be tough to deal.
Rafa didn't improve, he was great all season, stayed at the same level. They improved because Lage came on for Vitoria, not because of fecking Joao Felix ffs. You have no idea what you're talking about. If Felix played under Rui Vitoria he'd have looked half the player.
How about watching more than one game? I watched pretty much every Benfica game, I actually know what I'm talking about.
I was talking about Felix's performance against Frankfurt. He looked head and shoulders above all his teammates who were abject. If his team mates did well in the game to support him, I could have probably thought he was feeding off his teammates but they were all terrible. The midfield, defence and attack were all terrible. Felix created many chances in the game but his fellow attackers were just too shite to finish them off. His first goal was a penalty caused after a terrific throughball from him, his second was an outside the box shot, the fourth goal was created by him also. Every move was made by him in the game. No one can tell me this isn't what has been happening in the Liga if you consider the fact that Benfica got better with him linking up their attack after his introduction into the starting lineups. This was a player who had 15 goals, 7 assists, 12 big chances created by him in 21 starts yet you said it was his teammates who made him look good? I'm sure he's high up in the second assist stat also.
When you consider his frail stature in respective to his performance, you realise he's a fantastic talent.
You’re literally judging him off one fecking game that was the best of his entire career by a mile.
Rafa was twice the player throughout the season, if nobody can tell you that even though they actually watched the games because you simply can’t believe it after watching one match then I’m not sure what to tell you other than that’s pretty dumb.
Is there a way we can check how many times the word Frankfurt has been mentioned in this thread?
If i got an euro for every time you mentioned the Frankfurt game, i could have lobster for dinner tonight.
At least he looked good in a continental match even if it was one unlike other players from the Portuguese league who were all abject in the Europa last season.
You’re literally judging him off one fecking game that was the best of his entire career by a mile.
Rafa was twice the player throughout the season, if nobody can tell you that even though they actually watched the games because you simply can’t believe it after watching one match then I’m not sure what to tell you other than that’s pretty dumb.
I watched most of last season Europa matches and champion league matches, none of the players from the Portuguese league impressed me in the matches I happened to watch. Rafa was even shite in the game if I remember correctly.
The point is Felix has shown he's got such performance in him. It just needs to be nurtured. It's a shame the coach deployed him on the wing in the second leg.
You must think Origi is as good as R9 too...
Felix will make a good player who I think can be a regular in the NT. Anyone who expects him to be one of the best players in the world simply hasn’t watched him play. It’s not just you, the amount of people here giving their opinions with certainty on a player they simply haven’t watched enough of is pretty ridiculous.
Origi did nothing spectacular in the game apart from his clinical finishing. Besides, no one knows Origi's potential as at now until he has a consistent runs in a creative team because he's shown some potential as a clinical striker and he's got the technique to support him. I recall him once dominating Dortmund's defence for example. A shame he's got Firmino in front of him and the fact that Firmino offers better creativity and linkup as a false 9 than him.
Back to Felix, he wasn't just a striker in the game, every attack flowed through him in the game.
Scoring in a game is different from having every attack flowing through a player while his teammates looked shite in comparison. Without Felix, Benfica wouldn't have won the game against Frankfurt in the first leg.
Who are we to question Atletico when it comes to buying strikers probably overpaid but he'll no doubt end up being world class for them.
probably overpaid but he'll no doubt end up being world class for them.I've seen him play plenty and he has without a doubt the potential to be one of the best players in the world. It's strange you didn't notice that when we was scoring goals at will against your team.
You vermin do know your the most disgusting and corrupt club in Portugal right? say what you want but nothing can hide that truth. You have over 100! players signed to your club that dont even feature in your team
I wonder why. You guys want to be the hotbed for the national team like Sporting was for the best moments in our country history but it wont happen.Bernardo Silva has more potential than him. Though I agree Felix is good.
Benfica fans tend to overhype their players A LOT. I remember many saying Pizzi was the best player in the league
or Gaitan was World class or Fejsa was better then William etc.How many of those titles were through blatant corruption. Our league is second only to the greek league.
It's disgusting.
The sad part is you guys ACTUALLY believe you guys are saints and have never cheated to win and are the benchmark of Portugal.If Portugal had any balls Benfica would be relegated like Juve was.
Are we going to ignore the many reports of PLAYERS coming out saying Benfica attempted to give then MONEY to inertially play bad and throw the game.
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This is only a small sample size that paints a much bigger picture.
Enjoy neutrals and have fun watching.
I rest my case.
This is only a small sample size that paints a much bigger picture.
Enjoy neutrals and have fun watching.
I rest my case.
Atletico is replacing Griezmann with one of the best young attackers in the world, maybe the best young player for the position Griezmann plays. Also, Felix is 9 years younger with the potential to be world class.
I hope we take a similar approach. Unfortunately, instead of signing a young CAM like Havertz, we extended Mata's contract. Well, we even replaced Ronaldo with Valencia, so that's nothing new.
We signed Daniel James (who is okay to be a squad player for now), but we could have signed Chiesa who has the same age and he is ready to be a starter.
Felix is overpriced. But, who isn't? Just take a look at how much we need to pay for Maguire, Wan Bissaka, Diop, etc.
There are players like Alderweireld, Meunier, Rabiot, etc that we can get without spending a lot of money but it seems we have other targets.
I hope we take a similar approach. Unfortunately, instead of signing a young CAM like Havertz, we extended Mata's contract. Well, we even replaced Ronaldo with Valencia, so that's nothing new.
We signed Daniel James (who is okay to be a squad player for now), but we could have signed Chiesa who has the same age and he is ready to be a starter.
Felix is overpriced. But, who isn't? Just take a look at how much we need to pay for Maguire, Wan Bissaka, Diop, etc.
There are players like Alderweireld, Meunier, Rabiot, etc that we can get without spending a lot of money but it seems we have other targets.
SportingCP96, just another sheep among the flock.
In this "new" digital era, every facebook post etc., is true. Show some evidence.. I can pull out some youtube videos also.
Do you know what is "Apito Dourado"? Do you know "Cashball"? Do you know who is Paulo Pereira Cristovao?
I understand the frustration.... robbing 10 years of e-mail content and finding 0 must be frustrating man...
The page 40 of this topic is paradigmatic... The Saint Alliance "Porto&Sporting" trying to destroy the Giant.
That's why we say: There's only two clubs in Portugal, Benfica and Anti-Benfica.
In this "new" digital era, every facebook post etc., is true. Show some evidence.. I can pull out some youtube videos also.
Do you know what is "Apito Dourado"? Do you know "Cashball"? Do you know who is Paulo Pereira Cristovao?
I understand the frustration.... robbing 10 years of e-mail content and finding 0 must be frustrating man...
The page 40 of this topic is paradigmatic... The Saint Alliance "Porto&Sporting" trying to destroy the Giant.
That's why we say: There's only two clubs in Portugal, Benfica and Anti-Benfica.
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He scored a grand total of two goals against my team... did feck all else other than continously dive. Renato Sanches 2.0, a media superstar. Gets to be complete shit with 0 criticism like the huge game away at Braga, or play normal and have the Benfica media calling him the next Ronaldo and putting insane price tags on him.
When you win the title do you go celebrate by chanting Felix and Seferovic's name? Or do you go chant the name of the guy who's made 5 titles in 6 years possible, Jorge Mendes? Maybe Tiago Martins' name instead? Long time ago but Benfica used to be a club with morals and ethics. Benfica legends used to be people like Eusébio and Coluna, even Rui Costa. Now the Benfica legends of this generation are Luis Felipe Vieira and Jorge Mendes. That's what you guys allowed your club to become and instead of being ashamed of it, you pretend to be proud and intensely defend the cnuts who have killed everything your club stood for.
How is it like to continuously reelect a president who every fan knows for a fact is corrupt because you don't give a flying feck about the morals and ethics of your club and instead take winning above everything else so you can have sly remarks at rival fans? I'd rather Sporting died than win titles like you have or have the players in my team the same way you get yours. That's the difference, enjoy the 120 million and enjoy buying Dyego Souza for 15 million and Pedro Neto for 20 million or whatever the equivalent of that will end up being so that the men in suits that you Benfica fans idolize can fill their pockets. It truly is the beautiful game.
No you guys live in a bubble. Disprove any of the videos I just posted above. That is A LOT of sequence to just be "bad referee".
Braga, Setubel, Santa Clara I could keep going are all satellite clubs for SL Merda. If you won with fairness I would not be upset I would rather show respect. You think it is an accident that you made 0 points in the CL and got blown out by Basel then go in the league and run through everyone?
Like I said if justice was served in Portugal Benfica would be In the segunda.
Watch the Taca da Liga video and please attempt to make an excuse for that call for example
or the mitroglu handball vs PacosThat clubezinho is a disgrace.
In the realm of Benfica Pizzi is like Zidane , Fejsa is the best DM in the league Rafa is world class etc etc.
The stars of Benfica who are Worth 120M are the men who wear black and have a whistle in their mouth.
. This thread is gold.Finally some benfica fans. Now we have a fair and balanced discussion.
They are not exactly level headed fans in regards to their players though. Every single on of there players is worth 50M minimum according to them.
Look I love you guys, the resident Sporting fans on this forum, And i know you would never lie, but sometimes i cannot help but feel like asking Everton supporters about a Liverpool talent. You say that most of us non portugese fans dont watch him week in week out, fair enough, but now we have someone that does. So it makes for some interesting discussions.Which is fair and completely understandable. As for my self if you follow my posts regarding Portuguese football I like to say I am level headed in not overhyping players, for Bruno I kept him at Chrisitan Eriksen ceiling etc. As for Felix as I have said before he is a great talent no doubt about it but...he is not 120M worth and he is being hyped to Mbappe level which he is not(potential wise).
I do understand your point though and it makes perfect sense
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