Joao Felix | Signed for Atlético Madrid

[Kaglish10]

So true. There was a poster arguing with Ajax fans about how Van de Beek was actually better than De Jong not too long ago.

Yeah, so right that Ajax coach, Erik Ten Hag agreed with me that Van de Beek is actually a central midfielder (no 6 to be precise) but he had to deploy him as a no 10 because he had too many of them whereas our residents Ajax fans said he is a no 10.

What I've seen from Van De Beek as a no 6 is far superior to what I have seen from Frenkie and I will keep saying it. No amount of playing him as a no 10 to accommodate Frenkie and Schone would change the fact that Van de Beek is quality as a no 6. Frenkie can't even play as a no 8, let alone as a no 10.

I have judged many talents before and I know what I'm saying. I could recall when I said Silva and Ox should be deployed in the central midfield in the previous forum I was, many laughed then but that was where I saw them.
https://www.nairaland.com/search?q=ox,+Kagawa10&board=0

If Inter's coaches who built up Pirlo didn't know the fact that he was a quality central midfielder but thought he was just an average no 10, what do common fans know?

Anyway, this is Felix thread. It will just annoy me if another club snap him up while some people already believed he's an average player because he couldn't keep up with long ball all game.

 

[Kaglish10]

He was, that's what he does. It's not true at all Felix was the brain of Benfica's attacks. He has a lot of potential but he's nowhere near the finished product, nowhere near being that important for Benfica and nowhere near being ready to go to a top european club.

I hate Benfica players but I can watch football and rate them on their performances without bias.

Some of what I'm saying about Felix I said about Bruno Fernandes too in his thread.

Didn't look like it though. Rafa didn't even have many assists. Gelson Fernandes was actually tame in the midfield and did nothing apart from make number in the middle until the introduction of Felix into Benfica's lineup. This was what I noticed in Felix's clip. He was the player connecting the dots to the wings and through the middle.

To be honest, I don't rate Bruno Fernandes. I actually feel he was part of the reason Portugal were playing long ball and that is why I don't want him here. In fact, it was one of the reason I dialed back on Ziyech who tends to force play with his risky passes and long ball regardless of if passes were on or not.

 

[TwoSheds]

He needs another year at Benfica. He'll have his pick of the big clubs when he's ready.

 

[Sayros]

Looking at his stats in the EL this just isn't true. He had one amazing games against EF and did pretty much nothing in any of the other EL games that he played.

https://www.whoscored.com/Matches/1...A-Europa-League-2018-2019-Galatasaray-Benfica

https://www.whoscored.com/Matches/1...A-Europa-League-2018-2019-Benfica-Galatasaray

https://www.whoscored.com/Matches/1...Europa-League-2018-2019-Dinamo-Zagreb-Benfica

https://www.whoscored.com/Matches/1...Europa-League-2018-2019-Benfica-Dinamo-Zagreb

https://www.whoscored.com/Matches/1...-League-2018-2019-Eintracht-Frankfurt-Benfica

I'm haven't seen enough of him to pass judgement on him but it seems there are some myths being pedaled about him.

That’s the game I mean, my point being he has shown he can have those sorts of game. I maybe didn’t express myself correctly because I didn’t mean he dominated the competition entirely, but he has shown he could dominate against grown men in the past. People on here are trying to act like he is a wind blow away from being thrown to the ground.

He has played against professional grown men all season long in Portugal and the games I did catch, he didn’t stand out as someone who is too physically weak to succeed at the highest level.

Again, he’s not worth 120m and he shouldn’t go to a team that needs a savior, but I have no doubts about his technical ability to succeed, my reservations about him have always been about his drive/motivation and mentality.

He’s only 19, but if he doesn’t get distracted by the hype, the women, the money, etc, I think it’s only a matter of a year or two before he shows just how good he can be at the top level. It’s a lot of if’s though but that’s what you’re always gonna get with young players.

 

[Kaglish10]

He needs another year at Benfica. He'll have his pick of the big clubs when he's ready.

If he gets another good season, the price won't decrease but may likely soar the more. If the price drops to 50mil, I would rather we snap him up. I still feel yesterday game isn't the game to judge him on. He wasn't only deployed as a pure striker with another roaming forward behind him but was also, Isolated upfront throughout except for the time he kept chasing long ball. No player would have looked good playing like that, let alone a young skinny player chasing long aeriel ball throughout.

 

[Fer]

Would you prefer Felix instead of Dybala or Griezmann as a False 9?

 

[golden_blunder]

This one has gone quiet

 

[Adam-Utd]

This one has gone quiet

For £120m I'd expect so too.

The guy is a tidy player and good finisher but that's about it. Goes over with a strong breeze, the match against Netherlands showed he's nowhere near that level yet.

 

[red thru&thru]

Would prefer Sancho

 

[golden_blunder]

For £120m I'd expect so too.

The guy is a tidy player and good finisher but that's about it. Goes over with a strong breeze, the match against Netherlands showed he's nowhere near that level yet.

Yeah I’m not sure, it’s a huge gamble

 

[El-Manos]

Would prefer Sancho

Everyone does but Dortmund don’t want to sell this summer.

 

[AJ10]

For £120m I'd expect so too.

The guy is a tidy player and good finisher but that's about it. Goes over with a strong breeze, the match against Netherlands showed he's nowhere near that level yet.

 

[red thru&thru]

Everyone does but Dortmund don’t want to sell this summer.

For £120m you'd spend on Felix, Dortmund would take it.

 

[Houdini]

Would you prefer Felix instead of Dybala or Griezmann as a False 9?

Yes I would but only for reasonabl price. Better for future.

 

[Smashin]

For what is worth, some bloke (long time user) in a Portuguese forum claimed his mate was on a flight to Madrid on the same plane as Felix and he confessed he had agreed to join Atletico Madrid for 120M €.

It makes sense, apart from football reasons. There a long history of inflated transactions between Benfica, Mendes and Atletico Madrid.

 

[Andersons Dietician]

Aren’t Atletico up to their eye balls in debt. Even if they are selling Griezman and a whole host of others surely they can’t afford to spend 120 mil on an unproven teen.

 

[SportingCP96]

Smart because he would get absolutely exposed in the EPL so Span is a better move for sure but...this Atletico move can be hit or miss.

Also another reason why I HATE Jorge Mendes that cancerous feck. He will get 30%!! of any transfer. It is Benfica so I don't care but that is daylight robbery if I ever saw it.

 

[broccoli]

For what is worth, some bloke (long time user) in a Portuguese forum claimed his mate was on a flight to Madrid on the same plane as Felix and he confessed he had agreed to join Atletico Madrid for 120M €.

It makes sense, apart from football reasons. There a long history of inflated transactions between Benfica, Mendes and Atletico Madrid.

Yes, those values mean close to feck all since it's between the Mendes silk road. No other club would take such gamble.

 

[TwoSheds]

Smart because he would get absolutely exposed in the EPL so Span is a better move for sure but...this Atletico move can be hit or miss.

Also another reason why I HATE Jorge Mendes that cancerous feck. He will get 30%!! of any transfer. It is Benfica so I don't care but that is daylight robbery if I ever saw it.

Bizarre that the clubs are happy to give away 30% of their best youth players, presumably to access the Mendes hype machine and inflate the price?

Felix really needs to stay where he is for at least a year or two. A move now makes no sense from a footballing perspective, nor really even from Benfica as they'll still get big money for him in a year or two and they need his goals.

 

[Bwuk]

Spending the Griezmann money on Felix. Not sure if that's a wise move. I haven't seen a lot of him, but from the Nations League he looked very light weight.

Potential is one thing, but 120m euros is a lot for a gamble.

 

[Peyroteo]

For what is worth, some bloke (long time user) in a Portuguese forum claimed his mate was on a flight to Madrid on the same plane as Felix and he confessed he had agreed to join Atletico Madrid for 120M €.

It makes sense, apart from football reasons. There a long history of inflated transactions between Benfica, Mendes and Atletico Madrid.

Couldn't have put it any better

 

[JPRouve]

Yes, those values mean close to feck all since it's between the Mendes silk road. No other club would take such gamble.

The question is who is the third club in that equation? Like with Falcao someone surely agreed to bail Atletico in a couple of years. Before FFP it would have been Monaco.

 

[Jazz]

He isn't ready for the PL. Plus won't have the press putting him under pressure as the English press would with that price tag. Therefore, it's good he goes to Spain and Simeone.

 

[Jazz]

Smart because he would get absolutely exposed in the EPL so Span is a better move for sure but...this Atletico move can be hit or miss.

Also another reason why I HATE Jorge Mendes that cancerous feck. He will get 30%!! of any transfer. It is Benfica so I don't care but that is daylight robbery if I ever saw it.

He is dodgy. Why don't you guys put him in jail Didn't they have stuff come out about his dealings from Football Leaks?

 

[Sly]

He is dodgy. Why don't you guys put him in jail Didn't they have stuff come out about his dealings from Football Leaks?

Because Portugal.

 

[broccoli]

The question is who is the third club in that equation? Like with Falcao someone surely agreed to bail Atletico in a couple of years. Before FFP it would have been Monaco.

There's no need for a third club. Benfica, Mendes and Atlético can go on with their shady transactions whenever it suits them.

He is dodgy. Why don't you guys put him in jail Didn't they have stuff come out about his dealings from Football Leaks?

The Hero behind football leaks was arrested and shut off before more critical data came out. Benfica and other shady agent funds like Doyen have power over courts here.

 

[Peyroteo]

The question is who is the third club in that equation? Like with Falcao someone surely agreed to bail Atletico in a couple of years. Before FFP it would have been Monaco.

Wolves, Valencia, Benfica, Monaco, Rio Ave, Braga, Deportivo, Atletico Madrid... it tends to be always a few of those involved in Jorge Mendes shenanigans

 

[Smashin]

He isn't ready for the PL. Plus won't have the press putting him under pressure as the English press would with that price tag. Therefore, it's good he goes to Spain and Simeone.

A Portuguese player in Spain with that price tag you can bet there will be insane press pressure.

If it is true, he's gonna get a reality check with Simeone that's for sure. He's so soft at pressing or tackling and he picks A. Madrid... Oh boy.

Spoiler

 

[Peyroteo]

Spoiler

I love Insónias em carvão

 

[broccoli]

Nothing against the kid but i think he will flop hard. For 120M the fans will expect something special or someone who can have the same impact as Griezman but he's nowhere near that level and if he ever does reach that level it will take a few seasons, most certainly.

 

[Jazz]

There's no need for a third club. Benfica, Mendes and Atlético can go on with their shady transactions whenever it suits them.



The Hero behind football leaks was arrested and shut off before more critical data came out. Benfica and other shady agent funds like Doyen have power over courts here.

Ok so we'll never hear about things if the leaker's been arrested. Probably in prison for a long long time too.

 

[Jazz]

A Portuguese player in Spain with that price tag you can bet there will be insane press pressure.

If it is true, he's gonna get a reality check with Simeone that's for sure. He's so soft at pressing or tackling and he picks A. Madrid... Oh boy.

Spoiler

He will toughen up!

Simeone will protect him from the press I believe.

 

[MUFC OK]

Nothing against the kid but i think he will flop hard. For 120M the fans will expect something special or someone who can have the same impact as Griezman but he's nowhere near that level and if he ever does reach that level it will take a few seasons, most certainly.

I would be willing to bet a substantial amount that you will be proven wrong. Do you actually think he will flop or is it a Benfica/FCP thing?

There's a reason why that fee is not seen as outrageous - he is already a top player and will only get better. I think he is almost guaranteed to be world class as long as he is determined enough. I do agree it may take a couple of seasons for him to adjust though.

 

[broccoli]

I would be willing to bet a substantial amount that you will be proven wrong. Do you actually think he will flop or is it a Benfica/FCP thing?

There's a reason why that fee is not seen as outrageous - he is already a top player and will only get better. I think he is almost guaranteed to be world class as long as he is determined enough. I do agree it may take a couple of seasons for him to adjust though.

If it was for a lower fee, say 40M there would be no pressure and he could very well be the next Griezman. But for 120M he will be the main focus in Atlético.

In reality he's just a talented but frail kid. He looks a bit immature too. Fans will expect him to win games on his own with that price tag but that won't happen. Don't mind to be proven wrong as i don't have anything against him. He was even formed at Porto as well but i just don't see him as a potential world beater.

 

[MUFC OK]

If it was for a lower fee, say 40M there would be no pressure and he could very well be the next Griezman. But for 120M he will be the main focus in Atlético.

In reality he's just a talented but frail kid. He looks a bit immature too. Fans will expect him to win games on his own with that price tag but that won't happen. Don't mind to be proven wrong as i don't have anything against him. He was even formed at Porto as well but i just don't see him as a potential world beater.

I think that is a damning assessment of the Portuguese league in which case if you do not think he has what it takes to succeed at AM. Be careful with the 'frail kid' assessment, cant remember too many top quality players where a slight frame has prevented their progress. Crucially he has a low centre of gravity so when he fills out he will be even better.

 

[Ekeke]

120 million is crazy

 

[simonhch]

I think that is a damning assessment of the Portuguese league in which case if you do not think he has what it takes to succeed at AM. Be careful with the 'frail kid' assessment, cant remember too many top quality players where a slight frame has prevented their progress. Crucially he has a low centre of gravity so when he fills out he will be even better.

How does he have a low center of gravity? He’s 5’11”. And being only 19, it’s possible he may even grow another inch or two.

 

[pocco]

Nothing against the kid but i think he will flop hard. For 120M the fans will expect something special or someone who can have the same impact as Griezman but he's nowhere near that level and if he ever does reach that level it will take a few seasons, most certainly.

Surely everyone involved will be aware of this.

 

[Peyroteo]

I would be willing to bet a substantial amount that you will be proven wrong. Do you actually think he will flop or is it a Benfica/FCP thing?

There's a reason why that fee is not seen as outrageous - he is already a top player and will only get better. I think he is almost guaranteed to be world class as long as he is determined enough. I do agree it may take a couple of seasons for him to adjust though.

It's not seen as outrageous, it's seen as the most insane transfer I've ever seen. Would geniunely be worse than Carroll for 40 million in 2011.

He is nowhere near being a top player already and he is nowhere near guaranteed to be world class. Renato Sanches was more proven than Felix when he went to Bayern.

He's good, has potential to turn into a very good player but anyone paying over 50 million is mad.

 

[Siddharth]

Football has gone crazy. 120 millions for an effing kid. Good luck to the lad. But, he'll be under lot of spotlight. If he comes through and emerges as a superstar, then Ronaldo comparisons would be vindicated.