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Joao Felix | Signed for Atlético Madrid
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So Felix didn’t get the ball at all? Didn’t touch the ball once? Where did Hudson-Odoi play on his debut? Why did he keep getting the ball (because he clearly showed his teammates he could be trusted)? Not saying he needs to be MOM and run the game, he just didn’t look like anything. Couldn’t even retain possession at times.
Ultimately, my main point is that Benfica price tag has/will killed/kill him. You’re not allowed to be a normal 19 year-old for that fee. Not allowed to have an ineffective and nervous debut. You need to show something.
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Yeah, the problem with the Potuguese hype machine is that this lad literally people on here describing as things like 'a generational talent' 'best teenager in the world' from watching his Youtube vids. It's so much pressure on the lad and could be the ruin of him.
He looked pretty devoid of pace last night, is that accurate?
Exactly - and that's not Felix's fault, but if we sign him for £90m (or even £60m) he's going to need to be an instant starter, an instant star. I'd happily take him - but he's clearly nowhere near the finished article, and the kind of price tag Benfica will demand is going to be a millstone around his neck
Fernandes didn't have a great game either, but he was much better than Felix. Felix looked like an amateur and completely out of his depth. 19 touches and 9 passes in 70 minutes is completely laughable. That he even made it to the 70th minute is a joke. Bruno Fernandes got himself involved though he didn't play as well as Silva and Ronaldo, but don't lump him next to Felix who was completely anonymous and lost the ball most times he got it.
Would get cleaned out every week in the prem. Not ready yet, needs another season.
Fernandes kind of felt like a Ross Barkley kind of level player from that performance. Too many technically poor moments.
Yep. Rightly or wrongly, I watched him through the lens of him being valued at £120m not being a 19 year-old making his debut. And he’s not helped by young players in the past going for/being valued at much less but making an instant impact at international level.
Don't know if you're talking in euros but Hulk went for a total of 60M and Militão just went for 50M.
It just shows you how little perspective there is out there when one game and all of the sudden this kid is overrated, isn't ready to play against grown men in the Premier league. Nevermind the fact he's dominated in the Europa league and playing against grown men all season who have been physical. He was overwhelmed by the occasion, maybe his head wasn't in the right place, and he wasn't really set up for much success either. Regardless of the reason, nothing about the game against Switzerland is changing my opinion on the potential and his ability to contribute right now. However, I don't think United is the best spot for him for sure, and I think he would take far longer to really thrive there as opposed to a team that has a solid foundation built for him to integrate without an enormous amount of pressure.
Let's see how he responds, it could be a bad sign that the occasion might have felt too big for him, but it could also be more likely just a bump in the road and just short of adjusting to his new status.
Let's see how he responds, it could be a bad sign that the occasion might have felt too big for him, but it could also be more likely just a bump in the road and just short of adjusting to his new status.
All this shows is that the sporting, Porto and benfica members were right all along. As they said he has great potential and could turn into a world class player. But anything 50-60m would be madness. You have people in here who have seen him only in YT compilations raging against people who see him on the regular. Then you have others who feel that the match from last night is prove that he is below par.
Does anybody really believe the press saying 120m? Not a chance.
They always sex up the headlines.
They always sex up the headlines.
Reminds me the year when Belotti was the craze.
None of Fernandes, Felix, or Dias, lifted me from my seat. I would be careful spending big money on any of the 3.
Based on one game, imagine watching Kane in the last Euros and deciding based on that if you should spend money on him or not....
Fernandes and Felix have both had excellent seasons, Fernandes 2 excellent seasons now.
Looking at his stats in the EL this just isn't true. He had one amazing games against EF and did pretty much nothing in any of the other EL games that he played.
https://www.whoscored.com/Matches/1...A-Europa-League-2018-2019-Galatasaray-Benfica
https://www.whoscored.com/Matches/1...A-Europa-League-2018-2019-Benfica-Galatasaray
https://www.whoscored.com/Matches/1...Europa-League-2018-2019-Dinamo-Zagreb-Benfica
https://www.whoscored.com/Matches/1...Europa-League-2018-2019-Benfica-Dinamo-Zagreb
https://www.whoscored.com/Matches/1...-League-2018-2019-Eintracht-Frankfurt-Benfica
I'm haven't seen enough of him to pass judgement on him but it seems there are some myths being pedaled about him.
Same. But my opinion is he’s not ready or worth anything close to being quoted.
Thank you for this, I was going to challenge that claim, but couldn’t be bothered to look up the other games!
Agreed. I wonder why people are so excited about him with regards to instant impact. Doesn't seem to be based on performances.
Think it’s a shiny new toy and he has undoubted potential. Leading people to overestimate his ability to be of use to us right now.
It’s crazy that we have Portuguese football fans on here trying to convince posters who have only seen highlights and maybe one EL game prior to last night that Felix is overpriced and overhyped.
Internet football talk is a cesspit. You have all these people desperate to ‘get in on the ground floor’ so they make the most ridiculous claims about a player they have barely seen, probably because that’s what they want him to be, and also because they won’t to be praised for being aware of his talent from the very beginning.
Internet football talk is a cesspit. You have all these people desperate to ‘get in on the ground floor’ so they make the most ridiculous claims about a player they have barely seen, probably because that’s what they want him to be, and also because they won’t to be praised for being aware of his talent from the very beginning.
So true. There was a poster arguing with Ajax fans about how Van de Beek was actually better than De Jong not too long ago.
So true. There was a poster arguing with Ajax fans about how Van de Beek was actually better than De Jong not too long ago.
It’s increasingly common and sadly indicative of the times and the internet as a whole. People trying to project something they are not in search of cool points from strangers. Not even saying Felix isn’t good, or even the real deal. I just know that many arguing so vehemently are not the experts they claim to be. The more a player becomes a known quantity, the more dismissive people become of what they could contribute. I have seen many posters insist we spend 120m on Felix ahead of spending about 30m less on Dybala, or signing Griezmann. Felix is not as good as them, and he’d have done well to ever become better than either.
I will bet you my house that in 3/4 years we will not remember him
You're right I got it confused with Sporting
there record was 45M for Joao Mario. Hulk is the league record.Thats the thing if you compare Mbappe when he broke through to Felix there is a light years difference. Mbappe was doing it in a slightly better league at a younger age AND in the CL being one of the reasons Monaco got to the Semis. Felix was doing it for 6 months in the Portuguese league vs Nacional.
Anyone even mentioning a fee over 50 million is completely mad nevermind 120 fecking million...
He’s a good player with potential but if he went to play in the Premier League right now it would be hilarious how out of his depth he’d look.
He’s a good player with potential but if he went to play in the Premier League right now it would be hilarious how out of his depth he’d look.
Quoted to remember in 3-4 years.
He would get kicked the living shit out of, as well.
Common, England dominated against montegoro and got the ball to Odoi compared to Felix who was chasing long ball all game. He got better in the second half when he moved to the left side and dropped deep to get involved and linkup play than in the 1st half when he was chasing long balls.
Odoi and Sancho got 5 times the amount of touches Felix had on his debut. I would rather prefer to judge him when he's involved lot more like he was against Frankfurt. If this is going to drive his price down, I will be quite happy however he's a fantastic potential who needs to be the main man in the attack to maximize his potential and that's not by making him chasing long aerial balls all game with an awful immobile midfield behind him.
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To be fair, even an adult would do worse chasing long aerial ball all game, let alone a skinny young player who was tightly marked. He had the least touches to make it worse. This isn't the match to judge him.
I'm even worried that Pep may get him to play ahead of the quality midfield he's got, we will then see Felix's quality get to blossom like he's shown for Benfica because I know he's far better than Gabriel Jesus who's been solid ahead of City's midfield. Yesterday match shows how horrible the Portuguese midfield is. Shame that Moutinho was left out and Bernardo who should be deployed in the midfield was made to play as a no 10/false 9. I really dislike the act of playing young players out of postion and then blaming them when things don't work out.
Yeah I know. I'm not judging him on this match. I'm judging him on the 6 months of senior football he's played.
If you believe Félix could be signed by Manchester City and bench players like the ones they have then you're out of your mind. He'd barely see the pitch in that squad.
At this moment he's blatantly not as good as Gabriel Jesus at all...
Is that some Mortal Kombat location or what
While nothing can be taken away from the fantastic Mbappe, he was much more involved while he was with France and Monaco. Falcao and Giroud were the players allowed to chase long aerial ball whenever such situation arises, not him. Today, he's got one of the best creative mobile midfield behind him at PSG.
I just feel all that is needed is to get a proper midfield behind Felix and let him get involved more.
Is he cut for a long ball Sunday league style like we had Portugal yesterday? Absolutely not.
But get the ball played through to him rather than punt long aerial ball and expect a young Felix to be the Messiah. Only Ronaldo can do that because he's got the physique and aerial strength to make such horrible style work out and even at that, I'm sure Ronaldo would prefer a technical playing style unlike what he was served yesterday..
Apologies. Meant to write Montenegro.
6 months of football which had him as part of Benfica's champion, with him as their talisman linking up the midfield to attack?
Gabriel Jesus played as a poacher in front of one of the best midfield out there and we've all seen how Felix looked in front of a possession based midfield setup at Benfica compared to the Sunday league Portugal style. I can bet he will displace Gabriel easily.
Yeah... we also saw how Rafa looked. The best Benfica player by a mile last season, followed by Pizzi. I also saw what Valencia reject Jonas did in the past 3 years in the same position as Félix...
He won’t displace Gabriel because City would never be stupid enough to pay the price Benfica will ask for. He’ll stay another year.
Your praise for him is mental.
First, Felix isn't worth the money Benfica is asking and I don't think he will go for 100 mil.
Secondly, Gabriel Jesus is just a poacher, nothing more. He needs to improve his all round play and we already saw what Gabriel looked for Brazil at the world cup eventhough he had lots of touches than what Felix managed in a sunday league Portugal setup.
Rafa wasn't linking up play in the final third though, was he? Felix was the brain of Benfica's attack, linking up play from the midfield to the wing and middle where Pizzi and Seferovic were deployed. Benfica only got better with him as starting player. This is the fact staring us in the eyes, not your hatred for Benfica's players.
He was, that's what he does. It's not true at all Felix was the brain of Benfica's attacks. He has a lot of potential but he's nowhere near the finished product, nowhere near being that important for Benfica and nowhere near being ready to go to a top european club.
I hate Benfica players but I can watch football and rate them on their performances without bias.
Some of what I'm saying about Felix I said about Bruno Fernandes too in his thread.
The 'light years difference' is physical, imo. Felix still has the body of a child, while Mbappe was already looking like R9. I think he's got the technique and intelligence to succeed at the highest level, hopefully he will have been inspired by CR yesterday because i think if he bulks up a bit he will become a beast.
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