Jesse Lingard 'to leave on a free'

[Member 117152]

The cnuts probably needing the cash after pumping it all into his failing “JLingz” brand. Who knows how much he’s flushed down the toilet on that shit.

That is probably more the real truth.

Property development when you have money already isn’t quite as hard as building a brand. He probably should have just invested his but can’t fault a guy for having a grind.

Beckham, Flamini & Pique aside, not many make it big in business. It’s just a completely different skillset.

He can make a small business maybe but most people just give up especially if they are entitled. Maybe it will force him to grow up when he leaves his football career hopefully and actually learn to earn coin rather than just be given it.

 

[Champ]

This is as clear of a leak as it gets

I dont think it's his fault but he should keep his mouth shut

A discussion between an ex player and current journalist and an existing player who has probably met Scholes many a time? Hardly a clear link!!

'I had a quick chat with Jesse the other day and I am sure he won't mind me saying this'....hardly points to someone who is leaking stuff left right and centre does it?!

Theres a good chance this quick chat happened in the corridors of OT whilst Scholes was on punditry duty!

 

[Champ]

Apart from having his brother moan through social media? Apart from having Scholes directly quote him? Apart from him refusing to celebrate against West Ham and cosying up to them on Social Media while still a United player? all the clear briefs in the past week about him not even wanting to speak to Ten Hag?

No, I don't have any tangible evidence but it's fairly easy to put it all together. United were stupid to keep an unhappy player.

Why would a player demean a potential candidate for his signature?

What does his broither moaning have to do with Lingard? Do we know if he asked him to post it?

As for speaking to ETH, why does he have to? He wants out so that would be a pointless conversation would it not? I mean Jesse is out of contract before ETH even officially joins!!

As for the Scholes thing, ' had a quick chat with Jesse the other day....' hardly paints a picture of a bonafide leak does it now!?

 

[romufc]

What does his broither moaning have to do with Lingard? Do we know if he asked him to post it?

Alot if you know about football. When an agent posts something be it a brother or not, he will not do it without Jessi knowing.

His brother is his agent so it actually has alot to do with Lingard. Posting things like he is in prison at United, whilst on a 5 star trip to Dubai, not toxic.

 

[Oranges038]

In no universe is he worth anywhere close to 150k a week. He should never have been on more than 40k at Utd and that would have been generous.

 

[Champ]

Alot if you know about football. When an agent posts something be it a brother or not, he will not do it without Jessi knowing.

His brother is his agent so it actually has alot to do with Lingard. Posting things like he is in prison at United, whilst on a 5 star trip to Dubai, not toxic.

I would be very surprised if his brother rang up Jesse asking for permission to post that! I could be wrong of course as we are all just guessing really.

What I can imagine is Jesse speaking to his brother and both being angry with the club for what they obviously deem to be poor treatment, leading to his brother being a class a twonk and burning all bridges by reactively posting that.
The way it was worded suggested a personal post rather than the words of someone else.

Wouldn't be the first time he has reactiovely used social media either!

But anyhow, that post is off little consequence really.

 

[Adam-Utd]

I thought he was leaving and then Rangnick pulled the plug because of the Greenwood situation?

Something isn't adding up. He got all pissy because we said he couldn't leave and needed emotional time did he not?

 

[Shane88]

Would be hilarious if he was effectively blackballed from the Premier League and ended up somewhere like Middlesbrough.

 

[haru krentz]

cant believe just how big-headed our academy players have become. the club have been pampering them so much they forgot their actual worth. Also what's with the rumors of United insisting on rashfords extension even without ETH approval? dont these bastards said the reason they didnt sign anyone was because they want to talk with the new manager first?

These two briefs contradict each other, they're stating on one hand that United's valuation put them off in Jan - but now 4 months on his wage demands are too high? Wouldn't the wages have also been an issue in Jan, even if we'd been giving him away for free?

No doubt United acted like idiots (as usual) here, but someone is talking shite here.

Good chance they were desperate considering they were still flirting with relegation in January but now as relegation threat is looming away, they might think that they will have more options on what players they wanna sign.

 

[clarkydaz]

you know you are crap when the richest club in the world wont take you on a free

 

[Maticmaker]

Probably not, and it wouldn't surprise me if he then tried to stay

Oh, he will stay!
ETH will give him a go, like all the others did, the trouble is Jesse can run off the ball (better than on it) and can press... not all that well, but 50% better than anyone else at the club at the moment, so he will get a chance (again!)

 

[Redlyn]

Feckers thought they could lowball us. West Ham too made the same mistake.

Lowball? 16m loan fee for 6 months? That's madness. I don't even believe it's true. No one in their right mind will pay that even if you have money to burn. They are comfortablely staying up with the 16m still in the pocket.

 

[haru krentz]

Lowball? 16m loan fee for 6 months? That's madness. I don't even believe it's true. No one in their right mind will pay that even if you have money to burn. They are comfortablely staying up with the 16m still in the pocket.

why the suprise? woodward thought he could make Everton pay 20M for Marcos Rojo, and Woodward was still with us last January.

 

[Lee565]

Let that be a lesson to all those at the club that had decided to half ass it for the last 6 months with their contracts running out this summer.

Hopefully the likes of pogba and cavani get low ball offers this summer as well

 

[El Zoido]

I thought he was leaving and then Rangnick pulled the plug because of the Greenwood situation?

Something isn't adding up. He got all pissy because we said he couldn't leave and needed emotional time did he not?

Whatever the reason, I’m bloody sick of all this drama surrounding someone who is ultimately a mediocre squad player. I’m fed up of hearing about him.

 

[Swerny]

LINGARD TO LEAVE ON A FREE

Someone drive him to the train station already

 

[Red For Ever]

The cnuts probably needing the cash after pumping it all into his failing “JLingz” brand. Who knows how much he’s flushed down the toilet on that shit.

Just wondered, did it ever make money, what company name is it part of
Did he personally fund it, or was his name just a front.
Not sure the United brand is as strong as it was right now, but assume the Jlinz brand will
less valuable if he is not a top level club

 

[Maluco]

If there was any interest from Mourinho, he could do worse. A manager that appreciates his work ethic, who is hard-nosed and disciplined with his players, in an easier league, a beautiful city with an old club mate around.

He would have to realize he isn’t worth anywhere near as much as he thinks, but it could provide a real renaissance for him.

It will probably be West Ham though, when the dust settles, on about 70k a week.

 

[m1tch]

Jesse: I want £150k/week
NUFC: No chance, how about £70k?
Jesse: £120k?
NUFC: £70k
Jesse: £100k?
NUFC: £70k
Jesse: £80k?
NUFC: £70k
Jesse: £71k?
NUFC: £70k
Jesse: £70k sounds good, where do I sign?

 

[choccy77]

Thats the fear. Leaves the club in july 1st and come transfer deadline day Utd announces that lingaard is returning.

How dare you suggest such a thing.

Naughty Step now!

 

[Macern]

The cnuts probably needing the cash after pumping it all into his failing “JLingz” brand. Who knows how much he’s flushed down the toilet on that shit.

I have a JLingz hoodie

 

[Chesterlestreet]

Oh, he will stay!
ETH will give him a go, like all the others did, the trouble is Jesse can run off the ball (better than on it) and can press... not all that well, but 50% better than anyone else at the club at the moment, so he will get a chance (again!)

He can't just stay, though - if ETH wants to give him a go, the club will have to offer him a new contract.

He's not in the same category as - say - Rashford in that regard.

 

[sunama]

You do realise that there were various reasons?

1. Lingard didnt want a permanent move to Newcastle because they were fighting relegation. Why would we loan a player till end of his contract?

2. United were ready to sell until the Greenwood issue, which meant they had to keep him just for squad numbers.

Regardless of all of that, he is being paid by Manutd and should be professional.

1, I understand Jesse's point of view.
For us, we'd have saved on wages.

2, Ralf R was very clear to the board - he wanted Jesse gone. The board (as is usual for them), called the shots and kept him and Jesse got virtually no game time for the last half of the season.

The reason why I think ETH will fail (like better managers have, before him), is that the board will not help him succeed. Essentially our business people at the top will be making decisions (just as they have since Fergie left), which will define what happens on the pitch. ETH will ask for certain players to be purchased, but the board will decide who gets purchased. Even Ralf R, in his 6 months stint with us, has experienced this.

LVG advised ETH to stay away from MUFC. He said that we are a business....not a football club. ETH's job will be to make money, not win games.

Getting 4th place will continue to be our target. For me, getting 4th place is absolute failure!

 

[sunama]

He can't just stay, though - if ETH wants to give him a go, the club will have to offer him a new contract.
He's not in the same category as - say - Rashford in that regard.

The club would see the re-signing of Jesse as a financial saving (why spend £50M on another attacking midfielder, when you can re-sign Jesse for free.
And if they do this, they'll market his re-signing as a huge coup. It's what our club do. We sign the wrong players but market it to get likes and media coverage and fans fall for it every single time.

 

[Chesterlestreet]

The club would see the re-signing of Jesse as a financial saving (why spend £50M on another attacking midfielder, when you can re-sign Jesse for free.
And if they do this, they'll market his re-signing as a huge coup. It's what our club do. We sign the wrong players but market it to get likes and media coverage and fans fall for it every single time.

Well, that's what we've done in the past (to various degrees).

But with regard to the part in bold - nobody will fall for that.

Maybe if it had happened a couple of months ago - yes. But in the scenario imagined above (as in, he comes crawling back at the end of window to sign a new deal), no: nobody's that stupid, they can't possibly sell that as a coup.

 

[InspiRED]

The cnuts probably needing the cash after pumping it all into his failing “JLingz” brand. Who knows how much he’s flushed down the toilet on that shit.

Even though it's been mentioned on here many times, it never actually dawned on me that it's a genuine clothing brand. Who convinced him that was a good idea?! Hope he got a bridge thrown in as part of the package.

 

[kopviolator]

A discussion between an ex player and current journalist and an existing player who has probably met Scholes many a time? Hardly a clear link!!

'I had a quick chat with Jesse the other day and I am sure he won't mind me saying this'....hardly points to someone who is leaking stuff left right and centre does it?!

Theres a good chance this quick chat happened in the corridors of OT whilst Scholes was on punditry duty!

Its airing dirty laundry in the open is what this is. And it's not even secretive. "Hey Scholesy, situation here is a mess - now go and report about it as you like. You can even quote me."
So okay, let's put it aside that Jesse has long lasting ties with the old gang and however unlikely, let's imagine he keeps all other cards to his chest. If you were the manager an you'd witness a scenario where one from the group would openly talk down the squad. What would you do?

Jesse is just a small part of the problem at OT but he IS a problem.

 

[Lentwood]

I'm far from a huge Lingard fan but I do genuinely believe he is a more useful/better Premier League player than DvdB.

If I were taking over, I'd convince Jesse he was part of the plan moving forward, re-sign him, take the £30m+ for DvdB and put it towards two new CMs and a CF

 

[Champ]

Its airing dirty laundry in the open is what this is. And it's not even secretive. "Hey Scholesy, situation here is a mess - now go and report about it as you like. You can even quote me."
So okay, let's put it aside that Jesse has long lasting ties with the old gang and however unlikely, let's imagine he keeps all other cards to his chest. If you were the manager an you'd witness a scenario where one from the group would openly talk down the squad. What would you do?

Jesse is just a small part of the problem at OT but he IS a problem.

Do we know he told Scholes that he could say it? How do we know Scholes is not just chatting crap and Lingard merely stated that the dressing room morale is poor?
I get the impression that people just don't like Lingard and so will happily blame anything upon him.

Don't get me wrong, I feel Lingard should be moved on, but to claim he is a problem is a bit harsh and isn't really based around any tangible evidence other than personal feelings.

 

[Gazautd18]

I'm far from a huge Lingard fan but I do genuinely believe he is a more useful/better Premier League player than DvdB.

If I were taking over, I'd convince Jesse he was part of the plan moving forward, re-sign him, take the £30m+ for DvdB and put it towards two new CMs and a CF

£150,000 a week bruh..
£150,000..

 

[tenpoless]

Even though it's been mentioned on here many times, it never actually dawned on me that it's a genuine clothing brand. Who convinced him that was a good idea?! Hope he got a bridge thrown in as part of the package.

He modeled his own hoodie
https://jlingz.com/collections/menswear/products/jlingz-dancefloor-hoodie-light-blue

 

[Corridor of Uncertainty]

I'm so curious..

 

[Real Name]

He modeled his own hoodie
https://jlingz.com/collections/menswear/products/jlingz-dancefloor-hoodie-light-blue

Dance fekin floor hoody.

Jesus Christ almighty.

 

[Sparky_Hughes]

I'm so curious..

Smells of arrogance and delusion.

 

[studs]

Chills on Sunday and smell like Jessie on Monday. Yuck.

 

[yumtum]

No it never made money and yes he funded it.

He lost £200k in the first year. Presumably sunk all of that in stock which obviously didn't sell. Don't know how much more he's spent or whether he gets any sales at all. I suspect his site is still just selling the initial stock he bought, probably all sat in a warehouse somewhere. His accounts from 6 months ago say it's about £260k in the red.

Now he's busy sinking his money into crap esports teams on crap games.

Problem is I think he's too arrogant to seek any sort f business advice from people who have created genuine brands before either.

I remember a story about the guy who started the Hera (Hera London) brand a few years ago, he was working on jeans whilst I'm his day job at Vodafone, had £20k and gave most of that to some guy from Georie Shore (when it was big) to wear them on the show etc - needless to say he made it big, think some Hera hoodies go for about £150 now.

Putting £260k straight into a clothing line without any sort of pre launch marketing or whatever is seriously arrogant, (surprise surprise) he most likely assumed he had millions of buyers (United fans) waiting to snatch a cheap £5 hoodie from China with a tacky 50p JLINGZ sticker plastered over it for £50 without any actual research going into it.

On another point, does he even wear the shit himself day to day? I mean, if you want to create a business with your name being the main feature, and the whole marketing push being you and nothing else, wouldn't you maybe, like, wear the shit yourself rather than Balenciaga and Gucci?

He's just another arrogant tool whi thinks just because he's part of the 0.012% who made it as a footballer, he could just turn his hand at anything and make it earn him millions - I reckon he will turn up bankrupt by the time he's 40 and wonder why things didn't turn out so well after "trying" loads of different ventures.

Truth is, he's lucky he grew up in England and just happened to be playing for United at the right time (Uniteds lowest ebb in decades).

 

[Loon]

I'm far from a huge Lingard fan but I do genuinely believe he is a more useful/better Premier League player than DvdB.

If I were taking over, I'd convince Jesse he was part of the plan moving forward, re-sign him, take the £30m+ for DvdB and put it towards two new CMs and a CF

I'd ship them both out and make a fresh search.

 

[Loon]

I'm so curious..

Smells like the OT toilets.

 

[crossy1686]

In no universe is he worth anywhere close to 150k a week. He should never have been on more than 40k at Utd and that would have been generous.

Martial: £250k, Rashford: £200k, Pogba: £250k.

Lingard signed his deal before they got their renewals. Him running his contract down was an attempt to bend the club over a barrel and get himself at least parity with his mates. Problem for him is that he hasn't played any football and when he has he's been shit, so hardly a strong position to negotiate from.

 

[Lentwood]

I'd ship them both out and make a fresh search.

Long term yes, but is it really worth worrying about bringing in a backup AM for Bruno when we have pressing issues with the first XI?