Jesse Lingard 'to leave on a free'

hobbers said:
They were kept on because Ole and Matt Judge were clueless and incompetent.
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What about Moyes, LvG, Jose, they all incompetent as well?

This idea that agents overrule their clients is a myth, the players do what they want to do at the end of the day, if Jones and Lingard really want to stay at United (as we are led to believe) and ETH offers them anything, that gives them that chance.... they will take it.
 
He could have all the talent in the world (he doesn't ). He doesn't have the attitude or mental fortitude to be a Manchester united player. End of discussion.
 
hobbers said:
Weird question because clearly they were all incompetent. But not because they kept Jones and Lingard around, since both actually had a role at various points.

Lingard being a shit squad player at age 24 on 40k a week is obviously very different to Lingard being a worthless squad player at 29 demanding 150k a week. Jones being a regular centre back for Jose is obviously different to Jones who has barely kicked a football in the last four years.

Lingard doesnt want to stay at United in any case, he wants a signing on fee and big wages because otherwise he'll probably be bankrupt by his mid thirties.
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You cannot be serious, yes, Moyes was out of his depth, LvG was something of a 'yesterdays man', and Jose was always the 'wrong fit' at United, but incompetent no, just look at the trophies won by LvG and Jose in particular... sorry this is a nonsense statement.

If Lingard doesn't want to stay then he will go...no ones going to twist his arm to stay.
 
Maticmaker said:
You cannot be serious, yes, Moyes was out of his depth, LvG was something of a 'yesterdays man', and Jose was always the 'wrong fit' at United, but incompetent no, just look at the trophies won by LvG and Jose in particular... sorry this is a nonsense statement.

If Lingard doesn't want to stay then he will go...no ones going to twist his arm to stay.
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He wants to stay at United, otherwise he would have left last summer, or kicked up a fuss about leaving. He was hoping he'd get a bumper £150k - £200k a week contract like his mates, seeing as United have handed them out for fun in the past and he's *underpaid compared to them. He stuck around to get game time to earn that new contract but hasn't been played, and now he's blaming the club for "broken promises" and is forced to leave on a free when he really doesn't want to. Greed will always bite you in the arse eventually.
 
He's massively overpaid for his ability. He's a free agent and has had no form for us in years and put no effort in at all when given a chance.

He can say all you want about broken promises but ultimately it's up to the player to show enough in training and matches, forcing the manager to make a decision. Bust a gut in training and force the manager to pick you because you're form and effort are top notch.

Obviously we cannot see training, but based on his match day performances this season he has had a fair crack of the whip and shown very little. In fact i think he's been played more than most on the caf would say he's deserved.

Can the season end so he can leave and we can move on to hopefully harder working players?
 
Imagine you'd get hot in a hoodie dancing, maybe not for jesse though as he'd put feck all effort into it.
 
So he played with Ronaldo, Zlatan, Rooney etc and he mentions Noble as his mentor!!

Good thing Maguire did a captain thing with Jesse at last.

Good riddance
 
He is a good player even if he isnt top 6 level.


Shame that we let these players leave on a free, it kind of shows how we dont really have any sort of plan up there at the top.
 
He's an average player that has been made to look better than average because of his energy levels when all around him were walking. He's clearly bitter that he's now been found out for his level and doesn't like it.

Players like him are just examples of our acceptance at mediocrity. Cannot wait for him to leave along with a few others.
 
Bebestation said:
He is a good player even if he isnt top 6 level.


Shame that we let these players leave on a free, it kind of shows how we dont really have any sort of plan up there at the top.
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I couldn't disagree more personally. The likes of Lingard, Pereira, Jones, Tuanzebe et al need to be identified as not good enough and shipped out for a fee while they're still young. We hold onto them for literal years after their expiry date at the club, hence the shambles that is our squad.
 
OleGunnar20 said:
I couldn't disagree more personally. The likes of Lingard, Pereira, Jones, Tuanzebe et al need to be identified as not good enough and shipped out for a fee while they're still young. We hold onto them for literal years after their expiry date at the club, hence the shambles that is our squad.
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Thats what im saying too. A good player that we could have got 15 million from if it was planned right.
 
christinaa said:
So he played with Ronaldo, Zlatan, Rooney etc and he mentions Noble as his mentor!!

Good thing Maguire did a captain thing with Jesse at last.

Good riddance
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It really wasn't Maguire and Lingard fighting.
 
Bebestation said:
Thats what im saying too. A good player that we could have got 15 million from if it was planned right.
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Oh for sure. We've leaned too much on the crutch of being historically 'Loaded' I think, and so haven't needed to maximise the value of these homegrown assets. That'll need to change majorly going forward if we're going to have a chance of competing with the Oil clubs.

The likes of Lingard, Pereira, TFM, Tuanzebe, Williams, Henderson, McTominay etc should all have been getting us 10-15m+ if sold at the right time. Only a tiny fraction of even these stand-out prospects should be good enough to stay here, even as squad players.
 
Imagine being at Manchester United all your playing life, a full international, nearly Thirty years of age, and allowing yourself - nay, needing, - to be placed under Mark Noble’s wing. Good fecking grief.
 
Fridge chutney said:
I've tried his cologne, it wasn't bad.

Lingard can be a useful option for us so if Ten Hag wants to sign him, i would support that.
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Has he just decided not to be useful for most of his time here, but will suddenly decide to become useful? Excellent logic.
 
Useful player for ETH because....he runs around a lot! It's high time we become way more ruthless as a club, especially if we want to get back to competing for the biggest prizes. We've indulged players like Lingard, Jones etc. for way too long with very little contribution (and this is without the toxicity some bring), and yet there are still fans who think we should extend because he can be "useful". I know we can't do a mass rebuild in one summer but it's high time these guys who've had their chances - leave.
 
I can picture the scene now.

Players going into the toilets at Carrington and Lingard has employed a looky looky man to sell his shit cologne, hoodies, accessories etc to his unsuspecting teammates
 
hobbers said:
Very clear indicator of how his mental age is genuinely about 10 years younger than his actual.

No self-respecting 29 year old international footballer goes from Manchester United to West Ham and ends up "taken under someone's wing". Christ the thought alone should be mortifying.

It'd be like Darren Fletcher going on loan to Blackpool and being taken under Charlie Adam's wing.
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Here he is, under Nobles wing

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Very surprised this guy got 51 pages on this thread. For perspective, Ronaldo has scored more goals than him this season than he has scored in his entire Utd career. Another twat i can't wait to see got rid of.
 
Cee90 said:
Surprisingly, Juventus are in for him.
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Not really, Juve are always in for any free transfer

End up paying huge wages and signing on fee and not doing much.

They've had loads over the last few years.
 
hobbers said:
Very clear indicator of how his mental age is genuinely about 10 years younger than his actual.

No self-respecting 29 year old international footballer goes from Manchester United to West Ham and ends up "taken under someone's wing". Christ the thought alone should be mortifying.

It'd be like Darren Fletcher going on loan to Blackpool and being taken under Charlie Adam's wing.
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Not even like it was his first time playing for another team as he had been on loan before
 
Speako said:
Imagine being at Manchester United all your playing life, a full international, nearly Thirty years of age, and allowing yourself - nay, needing, - to be placed under Mark Noble’s wing. Good fecking grief.
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While showing none of the professionalism and dedication that has characterised Noble’s career.
 
Ish said:
Useful player for ETH because....he runs around a lot! It's high time we become way more ruthless as a club, especially if we want to get back to competing for the biggest prizes. We've indulged players like Lingard, Jones etc. for way too long with very little contribution (and this is without the toxicity some bring), and yet there are still fans who think we should extend because he can be "useful". I know we can't do a mass rebuild in one summer but it's high time these guys who've had their chances - leave.
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Completely agree, should have taken WestHams offer last summer he did well there and they are much more suited to his level
 
hobbers said:
Very clear indicator of how his mental age is genuinely about 10 years younger than his actual.

No self-respecting 29 year old international footballer goes from Manchester United to West Ham and ends up "taken under someone's wing". Christ the thought alone should be mortifying.

It'd be like Darren Fletcher going on loan to Blackpool and being taken under Charlie Adam's wing.
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We saw if all when the dumb twat had to be forced to celebrate
 
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