Warrington is only 18 miles from Manchester and Lingard joined the Man United academy at 8 years old, so I think that is enough to call him a local lad surely.
Jesse Lingard 'to leave on a free'
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Warrington is only 18 miles from Manchester and Lingard joined the Man United academy at 8 years old, so I think that is enough to call him a local lad surely.
what a drama queen.
If what Moyes said is true, Ole rejected his approach for Lingard, then why do you think West Ham needs to put in a bid? Didn't make any sense on WH part to put in a bid and negotiate if the manager already said no.
Have you ever follow any United transfer saga all this years?
Ole did not have control over transfers. Moyes knows this so what Ole told him is totally irrelevant but in case you missed it, the point I was making is that if Jesse had submitted a transfer request then West Ham may well have bid but instead he said he wanted to stay and fight for his place.
Jesse Who?
Could be doing with him on the pitch very soon
Can't believe we didn't kick him out the door in January for a fiver.
One of the worst decisions in recent times, and that's saying something.
One of the worst decisions in recent times, and that's saying something.
More diabolical business from United, would have saved £2.5m on wages as well as benefitting from a loan fee by letting him go to Newcastle on loan. Add it to the long list of idiotic moves under Woodward. Willians & Tuanzebe are another two who should be sold this summer as there not good enough, I've no great faith either will be sold.
Has he gone yet?
Can't wait until he does and this thread gets locked
Can't wait until he does and this thread gets locked
I don't think Woodward was even there at this point. I don't necessarily agree with these assesment either-- which surprises me because I cannot stand him-- but I think we would have been more lenient if not for the Greenwood situation, I think we only wanted to keep him just incase we needed him after that and that if we were to let him go it would have to be for a good price to justify losing another player after losing Greenwood. Besides, we've been shafted for so long in selling players, Newcastle are now a Saudi backed club with riches well beyond ours, they should have paid up if they really wanted him.
fecking state of this lad.
Imagine not playing for an entire year and thinking you're worth more than 150k a week.
I'd be shocked if someone paid him 50k a week at this point.
These two briefs contradict each other, they're stating on one hand that United's valuation put them off in Jan - but now 4 months on his wage demands are too high? Wouldn't the wages have also been an issue in Jan, even if we'd been giving him away for free?
No doubt United acted like idiots (as usual) here, but someone is talking shite here.
Why did United act like idiots?
United tried to get a hugely inflated fee for a player for a change, made no difference to United whether he went or not.
This is Newcastle trying to claim that they will adhere to their wage structure publicly so that a) future signings won't try and hold them for ransom knowing they have cash, and b) trying to lower the expectations froim their fans, some of whom seemed to think they would be able to buy anyone and everyone.
United thought they had Newcastle over a barrel because they had just been bought by owners with a bottomless pit of money, so demanded a high fee for a player who has been patchy at best and who would become a free agent a few months later.
Newcastle rightly told them to feck off for the reasons you've stated above, and we were stuck for half a season with an unhappy player who we continue to pay to sit and the bench, fuel the toxicity in the dressing room, and constantly leak to the press.
I stayed in Warrington when I went to a festival in Manchester.
Twas a strange town, with an eery atmosphere. the people would stare at me whispering to one another then scurry into the shadows when I approached. One friendly shopkeeper told me "we don't get many visitors round these ways. not since the last ones went missing. The kids be saying there are strange goings ons here. talk of devil worshipping and sacrificing and all that Jazz. Don't believe nun o than myself"
So why were United idiots?
It's a sellers market, the selling club can demand what they like, had he gone on loan United would still have to pay his wages no doubt. Most on here wouldn hvae probably complained had we ended up sending him on loan yet carried on paying his wages.
Am yet to see any tangible evidence that Lingard was toxic in the dressing room or leaked stories/teams to the press, unless you can enlighten me?
As far as I can can tell, Jesse wanted a free transfer as that would give him a greater capacity to choose where he wanted to go, so stayed at the club and trained everyday bar a few days where he asked for time off.
United would have had to cover some (or all?) of his wages if he’d gone on loan. Now Newcastle would have to pay them all themselves.
This is as clear of a leak as it gets
I dont think it's his fault but he should keep his mouth shut
He must think the LJingz brand is actually more valuable than what it really is
Feckers thought they could lowball us. West Ham too made the same mistake.
After holding out for his massive "free transfer" payday, no one thinks he is worth it Delicious
DeliciousNewcastle already doing better business than us...
Newcastle was desperate back in January, now they aren't and it's clear he isn't worth the trouble.
Rejected by Newcastle, new contract? Or a reflection on the value of other players we have eg martial
Lingard doesn't make anywhere near 150k p/w according to most sources.
(Meaning that even if Newcastle had to pay his wages in full as part of a loan deal, those wages wouldn't have been an issue as such: about half of what he now supposedly demands).
To put it mildly, how arrogant or ill advised Lingard can be if he think he is worth about 150k/week? Jeez..
I don't blame him for trying his luck, a lot of clubs out there can pay stupid wages + bonus fees, he probably is deluded into thinking he warrants that money.
Surely he wants to go anywhere for first-team football to try and make his last World Cup?
Hopefully he is not United's player anymore after this season.
Salford should pay him up as Scholes seems to loved him dearly.
Really curious if there is any club outhere that will pay him 150k plus a week and a substantial signing on fee
Probably not, and it wouldn't surprise me if he then tried to stay
Problem with Lingard is that someone like Rudiger just signed for Real earning around £300k a including his big bonus, now thats a CL winning defender and a German international, and its Real Madrid.
Lingard is a player who has had a decent 6 months over a 4 year period, and the clubs looking to sign him will, well they won't be Madrid, and £150k a week puts him as the highest earner at most premier league clubs, let alone clubs with strict wage structures abroad.
For the wages he's looking at he's going to need the following clubs to want him:
Madrid -
Juventus - they let go of Dybala...
Man City -
PSG -
And that's basically it, there's a reason he milked his last contract with us (£100k) and probably why Raiola dumped him as a client pretty sharpish, no doubt Lingards delusions had a big part to play.
I could see him staying a free agent until the last few days of the transfer window, then he signs for one of the newly promoted teams for £70-80k a week.
Lingard is a player who has had a decent 6 months over a 4 year period, and the clubs looking to sign him will, well they won't be Madrid, and £150k a week puts him as the highest earner at most premier league clubs, let alone clubs with strict wage structures abroad.
For the wages he's looking at he's going to need the following clubs to want him:
Madrid -
Juventus - they let go of Dybala...
Man City -
PSG -
And that's basically it, there's a reason he milked his last contract with us (£100k) and probably why Raiola dumped him as a client pretty sharpish, no doubt Lingards delusions had a big part to play.
I could see him staying a free agent until the last few days of the transfer window, then he signs for one of the newly promoted teams for £70-80k a week.
Thats the fear. Leaves the club in july 1st and come transfer deadline day Utd announces that lingaard is returning.
Lingard is not going to any of those clubs mentioned. I don't think they will even look at him as an option.
The best he is going to do is scam Newcastle into a big deal. Other than than, I doubt he will get 100k anywhere.
Apart from having his brother moan through social media? Apart from having Scholes directly quote him? Apart from him refusing to celebrate against West Ham and cosying up to them on Social Media while still a United player? all the clear briefs in the past week about him not even wanting to speak to Ten Hag?
No, I don't have any tangible evidence but it's fairly easy to put it all together. United were stupid to keep an unhappy player.
Doubt it.
Reality without Manchester United brand will hit him like a bullet train. He will end up on some Survivor show in ten years.
The cnuts probably needing the cash after pumping it all into his failing “JLingz” brand. Who knows how much he’s flushed down the toilet on that shit.
You do realise that there were various reasons?
1. Lingard didnt want a permanent move to Newcastle because they were fighting relegation. Why would we loan a player till end of his contract?
2. United were ready to sell until the Greenwood issue, which meant they had to keep him just for squad numbers.
Regardless of all of that, he is being paid by Manutd and should be professional.
We should pay him a nominal amount to leave just so he can be bashed over it all his life.
Not fit to be the kit man, this knob lingard is.
Not fit to be the kit man, this knob lingard is.
The epitome of what has gone wrong at the club is Jesse Lingard.