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2018-19 Performances


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4.8 Season Average Rating
Appearances
36
Goals
5
Assists
6
Yellow cards
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The bloke makes me cringe, cannot stand the man, dogsh*t on the pitch and an absolute embarrassment off it, sooner he takes his one assist every 6 months and fecks off to a Championship club the better for all involved.
 
I know it's a bit pedantic getting worked up by some players' social media. But being homegrown and supposedly "gets the club", Lingard surely has to know how fans of Man Utd will feel after such a poor season.
And he's coming of his worst season.

But my dislike for him has always just been about him as a player. Plays in a front three, doesn't turn with the ball, doesn't take players on, doesn't take risks. And as a result has the lowest assist total I could imagine a United playmaker could muster. His lauded movement has been found out by rivals, he doesn't pull players out of position as they seem not worried when he drifts between the lines.

Hopefully he'll fade into a less used, squad player role, I want him sold but that's not looking likely for the next couple of years.

Exactly my thoughts on Lingard as a player, barring his infrequent patches of form he's just too average to be getting this many minutes.
As a person I have disliked him ever since that West Ham-video.
 
And if we’re trying to change the mentality of the dressing room over the coming windows, do we need this clown imposing himself on James, WanBissaka and whoever else might follow. Get rid
 
He just sums up the state of the club at the moment. We pay this lad over £100k a week to represent the club.

We wouldn't care if we were successful and he was posting these videos, some would maybe even find them funny. At the same time it's no wonder we're not successful when players like him are the 'leaders' in the dressing room.

Renewals for mature heads like Mata and Young make more sense when you see what Ole is dealing with.
We could be winning treble every season, personally I would never find Lingard funny
 
The G&A stats.

Championship 13/14
28 Apps
7 Goals
7 Assists

Championship 14/15
14 Apps
2 Goals
2 Assists

Premier League 15/16
25 Apps
4 Goals
1 Assists

Premier League 16/17
20 Apps
1 Goals
2 Assists

Premier League 17/18
33 Apps
8 Goals
6 Assists

Premier League 18/19
27 Apps
4 Goals
3 Assists


So 12 PL assists and 17 PL goals in 111 appearances. 29 total goals made by him in the loosest sense. Or one in every 3.82 games, so 4 games. A goal or assist once every four games. He is a starter 55% of the time.

People defending him claim he's a squad player; so let's look at other squads and their actual squad players;

Shaquiri - start rate 29%

Premier League 18/19
24 Apps
6 Goals
3 Assists

Mark Albrighton - start rate 47%

Premier League 18/19
27 Apps
2 Goals
3 Assists

Michail Antonio - start rate 58%

Premier League 18/19
33 Apps
6 Goals
6 Assists

Bobby Reid - start rate 42%

Premier League 18/19
27 Apps
5 Goals
2 Assists

Ivan Cavaleiro - start rate 16%

Premier League 18/19
23 Apps
3 Goals
1 Assists

Our squad players for reference.

Juan Mata - start rate 42%

Premier League 18/19
22 Apps
3 Goals
4 Assists

We are backing a player who is as productive or less productive than Bobby Reid and Michail Antonio who both play in considerably weaker teams.

Yeah his social media persona is annoying but what's more annoying is because he's a local academy grad, he can put up wasteman numbers and people will leap to his defence or he keeps getting played.

Ignore his social media and look at his actual performances and his numbers. The answer lies there...
 
I’d say I’m surprised at people getting worked up over such a banal video but nothing surprises me about how self righteous football fans get on social media (and, increasingly, on here) any more.
Ageee. He's a 26 yr old lad on holiday with his mates having a bit of crack.

He has 6.3 million followers on Instagram
 
The G&A stats.

Championship 13/14
28 Apps
7 Goals
7 Assists

Championship 14/15
14 Apps
2 Goals
2 Assists

Premier League 15/16
25 Apps
4 Goals
1 Assists

Premier League 16/17
20 Apps
1 Goals
2 Assists

Premier League 17/18
33 Apps
8 Goals
6 Assists

Premier League 18/19
27 Apps
4 Goals
3 Assists


So 12 PL assists and 17 PL goals in 111 appearances. 29 total goals made by him in the loosest sense. Or one in every 3.82 games, so 4 games. A goal or assist once every four games. He is a starter 55% of the time.

People defending him claim he's a squad player; so let's look at other squads and their actual squad players;

Shaquiri - start rate 29%

Premier League 18/19
24 Apps
6 Goals
3 Assists

Mark Albrighton - start rate 47%

Premier League 18/19
27 Apps
2 Goals
3 Assists

Michail Antonio - start rate 58%

Premier League 18/19
33 Apps
6 Goals
6 Assists

Bobby Reid - start rate 42%

Premier League 18/19
27 Apps
5 Goals
2 Assists

Ivan Cavaleiro - start rate 16%

Premier League 18/19
23 Apps
3 Goals
1 Assists

Our squad players for reference.

Juan Mata - start rate 42%

Premier League 18/19
22 Apps
3 Goals
4 Assists

We are backing a player who is as productive or less productive than Bobby Reid and Michail Antonio who both play in considerably weaker teams.

Yeah his social media persona is annoying but what's more annoying is because he's a local academy grad, he can put up wasteman numbers and people will leap to his defence or he keeps getting played.

Ignore his social media and look at his actual performances and his numbers. The answer lies there...

Andres Iniesta - start rate really fecking high
Loads of Apps
Not many goals
Not many assists

Conclusion: All of the players you just mentioned are better than Iniesta.

Can't be arsed looking up the actual stats because this has been done to death already. Newsflash: Contribution of attacking players can't always be measured in goals and stats alone.

Now I guess I should button down the hatches, in anticipiation of a zillion laughing smilies from eejits who think I just implied Lingard is as good as Iniesta :rolleyes:
 
He reminds of 'that lad' everyone had in their class at school who was that small skinny lad who raised their social status by being the biggest mouthpiece around and acting like they were ten feet tall to everyone. More concerned with being the centre of attention/ hard/ popular and class clown than anything else when in a group of people. (everyone had a guy like this at school)

Only difference is at school, someone eventually got tired of this lad acting a bollocks and sparked them clean out, making rethink how they act.

Of course i dont know Jesse. he could be dead sound.. but im just saying that he reminds me of.

Maybe a proper disciplining by the club and future conduct warning would be the KO equivalent.
 
He reminds of 'that lad' everyone had in their class at school who was that small skinny lad who raised their social status by being the biggest mouthpiece around and acting like they were ten feet tall to everyone. More concerned with being the centre of attention/ hard/ popular and class clown than anything else when in a group of people. (everyone had a guy like this at school)

Only difference is at school, someone eventually got tired of this lad acting a bollocks and sparked them clean out, making rethink how they act.

Of course i dont know Jesse. he could be dead sound.. but im just saying that he reminds me of.

Maybe a proper disciplining by the club and future conduct warning would be the KO equivalent.

Agree with this, I don't get worked up by the vids, don't follow him on anything, fact that he just comes across as an absolute bellend and his videos get thrown at us by rival fans etc.

He just comes across as an absolute idiot, the worst vid was the West Ham away coach that got attacked, kinda wish we had some of the old guard in the dressing room who would just give him a few digs and tell him to pipe down.

Use to be a case of outside of football you represent Man United so act accordingly, this seems to have gone out the window these days all about likes and followers etc.

If he was half decent could put up with it but the fact that he is as good at football as he is at not looking a complete tool, says to me time to bin him off, offers zero constantly.
 
Andres Iniesta - start rate really fecking high
Loads of Apps
Not many goals
Not many assists

Conclusion: All of the players you just mentioned are better than Iniesta.

Can't be arsed looking up the actual stats because this has been done to death already. Newsflash: Contribution of attacking players can't always be measured in goals and stats alone.

Now I guess I should button down the hatches, in anticipiation of a zillion laughing smilies from eejits who think I just implied Lingard is as good as Iniesta :rolleyes:

Hahaha.

Checked the stats and

La Liga 11/12
27 Apps
2 Goals
10 Assists

La Liga 12/13
31 Apps
3 Goals
16 Assists

Could go on but yeah, Iniesta might be better ;)
 
Hahaha.

Checked the stats and

La Liga 11/12
27 Apps
2 Goals
10 Assists

La Liga 12/13
31 Apps
3 Goals
16 Assists

Could go on but yeah, Iniesta might be better ;)

Well there you go. Jesse’s “goals + assists” in 2017/18 > Iniesta’s “goals + assists” in 2011/12.

So we can only conclude 2017/18 Jesse Lingard was a better player than 2011/12 Andres Iniesta. Despite having to struggle to produce in a team full of vastly inferior players.

The stats ‘prove’ this, so it’s not even up for debate. QED.
 
More than his mediocrity, his seeming lack of professionalism, and his apparent exploitation of the Man Utd platform, the thing I'm most worried about is the fact that he gravitates toward youth and is seemingly influential to them. That's the major reason I would get rid of him.

We don't want the dressing room culture with Rashford, Greenwood, James, and all our other talented youth in a few years to resemble Lingard's Instagram videos. That would be much harder to get rid of than one man as it is right now.
 
Andres Iniesta - start rate really fecking high
Loads of Apps
Not many goals
Not many assists

Conclusion: All of the players you just mentioned are better than Iniesta.

Can't be arsed looking up the actual stats because this has been done to death already. Newsflash: Contribution of attacking players can't always be measured in goals and stats alone.

Now I guess I should button down the hatches, in anticipiation of a zillion laughing smilies from eejits who think I just implied Lingard is as good as Iniesta :rolleyes:
Your last paragraph is funny :lol: ;)
 
West Ham... can you please take this embarrassment in a swap deal for Diop instead of asking for Martial and McT?
 
More than his mediocrity, his seeming lack of professionalism, and his apparent exploitation of the Man Utd platform, the thing I'm most worried about is the fact that he gravitates toward youth and is seemingly influential to them. That's the major reason I would get rid of him.

We don't want the dressing room culture with Rashford, Greenwood, James, and all our other talented youth in a few years to resemble Lingard's Instagram videos. That would be much harder to get rid of than one man as it is right now.

This right here ^^

this is my ultimate worry, as i can see the difference in Rashford compared to 2 seasons ago. Dressing and acting like a muppet.

Lingard just seems to come across as extremely immature. He acts like a 14 year kid with way too much money. He's 27... 27!? :confused::wenger:
 
I dont think I have ever disliked a United player as much.

Thankfully my young lad is a few years away from using social media yet but I imagine there are a lot of parents out there with kids around 11 or 12 who arent too happy that their kids may have seen a grown man shagging a pillow. Its just idiotic from Lingard. The whole video just reeks of eltisim and a lad with too much money who is completely carried away with himself. I mean look at the state of that room. Some may excuse him as just being a bunch of lads having a good time but I would be embarassed if me or my mates left a place in such a mess. He clearly has little respect for anything.

I fully agree he is entitled to do whatever he wants in his personal life and free time but he really is just inviting criticism with shit like this, which he himself has brough upon himself by posting these videos. Its just idiotic and he doesnt seem to grasp that he repesents Manchester United every day. Not just during the season.

Ian Holloway was on talk sport and said he should be sold over this. Im not sure I would go that far - he should be sold for his diabolic football this while back.
 
It's the club that has indulged average players like Lingard who now believe they're something they're clearly not. I don't rate McTominay highly but admire his attitude and will to succeed at United. The quicker immature and average players like Lingard feck off from here the better it will be for the club IMO.
 
It's the club that has indulged average players like Lingard who now believe they're something they're clearly not. I don't rate McTominay highly but admire his attitude and will to succeed at United. The quicker immature and average players like Lingard feck off from here the better it will be for the club IMO.

Totally agree, would personally ship Lingard off to anyone crazy enough to buy him and promote Chong.

He showed more urgency, creativity, running/dribbling ability in about 20 minutes than Lingard did all season.

My worry is that Rashford now seems to be falling down the same path, over the last 6 months a lot of things have been coming out about him, his attitude, his ego. Last thing I want is Greenwood falling into this trap.
 
Totally agree, would personally ship Lingard off to anyone crazy enough to buy him and promote Chong.

He showed more urgency, creativity, running/dribbling ability in about 20 minutes than Lingard did all season.

My worry is that Rashford now seems to be falling down the same path, over the last 6 months a lot of things have been coming out about him, his attitude, his ego. Last thing I want is Greenwood falling into this trap.
I'm pretty sure Mason will be advised by his Dad about Lingard.
 
Totally agree, would personally ship Lingard off to anyone crazy enough to buy him and promote Chong.

He showed more urgency, creativity, running/dribbling ability in about 20 minutes than Lingard did all season.

My worry is that Rashford now seems to be falling down the same path, over the last 6 months a lot of things have been coming out about him, his attitude, his ego. Last thing I want is Greenwood falling into this trap.

Agreed, that's why getting rid is very important imo. Sends a message to those who might follow his example, that such behaviour won't be tolerated.
 
Agreed, that's why getting rid is very important imo. Sends a message to those who might follow his example, that such behaviour won't be tolerated.

Yeah mate same, I mean I don't have any issue with people having a laugh on their hols and all that but surely if you're representing United you know that anything you post etc. will be hammered.

If I was a top boy at Apple or some massive company you would watch what you put on social media, it's common sense.

Bloke is a waste of time, sooner shipped the better. He must know as well after the season we have had that this would rub fans up the wrong way, dunno, just baffles me.
 
Lingard and Beanhead having a great time on holiday.

Really they should be doing Scarface lines of coke and shagging prostitutes but instead they just messing about being young, rich and dumb...

I remember Jack Wheelchair clearly smoking on a few summer vacations but nobody made a big deal of it.

“Say what, say...BEANZ BEANZ BEANZ!”
 
People say he’s 27 but is that really that old to be pissing abut with your friends on holiday? Certainly not. He’s a definite irritant and the way he films everything is annoying but people saying ‘act your age’ and ‘he’s the problem with Manchester United’ are talking rubbish. The reason he’s the problem with United is not his snapchat story but the fact he’s an average footballer.
 
People say he’s 27 but is that really that old to be pissing abut with your friends on holiday? Certainly not. He’s a definite irritant and the way he films everything is annoying but people saying ‘act your age’ and ‘he’s the problem with Manchester United’ are talking rubbish. The reason he’s the problem with United is not his snapchat story but the fact he’s an average footballer.
You could also say if a footballer had performed like him last season at a club the size of United they would be worried about being shifted out. He does not seem to have any worries in that department, which is a worry in itself. This says plenty about United. Nobody is particularly bothered about what he did, it is the fact he cannot seem to help himself regards filming every bloody thing he does and thinks people are gagging to see everything he bloody does. If he had shown a modicum of intelligence he would have not done it and we would have been none the wiser. Now it has been all over the radio the whole day.
 
Andres Iniesta - start rate really fecking high
Loads of Apps
Not many goals
Not many assists

Conclusion: All of the players you just mentioned are better than Iniesta.

Can't be arsed looking up the actual stats because this has been done to death already. Newsflash: Contribution of attacking players can't always be measured in goals and stats alone.

Now I guess I should button down the hatches, in anticipiation of a zillion laughing smilies from eejits who think I just implied Lingard is as good as Iniesta :rolleyes:

His contribution is laughable. Goals or not. He has no right to start games for a club like this. Not his fault he still is mind but his lack of ability paired with his cnutish behaviour outside the pitch makes him extremely u likeable.
 
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