He has a poor technique when it comes to striking the ball. There's no way you miss that many chances and call it bad luck.
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He has scored some superb goals form outside the box, don't think its his striking technique.
Lingard and Sterling are very similar in terms of finishing. In that when it comes to instinct they are capable of excellent goals, But when they have time to think they tend to take the bad option.
He usually has more time to set himself for those. Its his technique for those quick shots where you don't have time to position yourself properly that lets him down. Doesn't quite have that strikers instinct.
His movement is fecking great though, I'm suprised some here are so dismissive of it as a skill. Even if he's not getting the ball his movement causes panic in the opposition box
That has to be his first game at the World Cup / Euros? Might have been a little bit nervous.
He is such a weird player. If he would‘t be so much Jesse Lingard, he would be one of the best players in the world. Not on Messi/Ronaldo level of course but on Griezmann level easily.
He is such a weird player. If he would‘t be so much Jesse Lingard, he would be one of the best players in the world. Not on Messi/Ronaldo level of course but on Griezmann level easily.
He’s scored an average of a goal every 14 or so games in his career here. Let’s keep it real he doesn’t score worldies all the time buddy.
Yeah silent domination and all that.......
Don clarify your post buddy what do you mean if he wouldn’t be so much Jesse Lingard part? Because putting Jesse on a par with Griezmann could be embarrassing if that’s what you’re saying.
That’s complete and utter nonsense. I’m sure you know that though because nobody is that stupid.
Only thing mildly interesting about him yesterday where the midget biting him
Thats just not true
Thought he was pretty unremarkable last night.
Lingard averages goal every 327 mins in his career (PL, CL, FA cup, Europa league, League cup, CS, Super cup), that's goal every 3.5 games.
He averages goal or assist every 200 mins in his career, that's just over 2 games.
For a player who was late bloomer and played so many positions and roles, it's a decent record. Way better than goal every 14 game bs.
Fair enough think it averages out a goal every 8 games when you add his international career. My 14 game guess was a bit away although not sure why you have not separated the two (assists and goals) to make it more clear as we were only talking goals. But feel free to state his amazing assist record.
He played 689 mins for England, if you include that, his goal scoring record will be every 355 mins, which is around 4 games. Not bad at all.
Not sure why you want to separate them out as both leads to same thing, goal scored for his team.
He's always scoffed the really easy chances.
I actually thought he played quite well last night. Maybe not as refined a performance as you'd like, evidenced by his finishing or lack thereof but his intensity, attacking work rate and movement were all good.
He has 13 caps for England and 1 goal according to https://www.transfermarkt.com/jesse-lingard/leistungsdatendetails/spieler/141660
He can play 100 games playing 1 min in each game, which will make only 100 mins.
https://www.transfermarkt.com/jesse-lingard/nationalmannschaft/spieler/141660
He has played 689 mins for England, scored 1 and assisted 1.
Yeah I can see that and if you were to mention he was sub x amount of appearances and came on then I get that but when he’s subbed off it’s usually because the manager thinks you’ve been ineffective or is it because he runs about a lot I’m not so sure.
While that was true about yesterday’s game, his finishing has been nothing short of cracking for United. Some absolute screamers this season.
Dig deeper hole man, don't forget to move the goal posts too.
From "he scores a goal every 14 games" to "he is subbed out for whatever reason".
He has started 8 games and completed 90 mins in 4 games, considering he played mostly in friendlies, they are subbed out for no reason than trying different tactics and players.
For example, in qualifiers and in main cups, he started 3 games and played 90 mins in all 3 games.
Would prefer to see Loftus-Cheek start over Lingard - he brought more energy and looked more threatening to me.
Meh. As science has shown, people will see what they want to see. I don't think Lingard is ever going to be great for United or England, but he's a good squad/rotation player to have and last night he played better than some of the ostensibly more talented players in the England side who take up similar roles (Alli, Sterling). Having players who understand off-the-ball movement is important and creates space for your stars to operate, otherwise you end up looking like United under LVG - completely static.
Not a great goal-scorer but a scorer of great goals.
He does need to start bundling in a few easy goals tbf. Hopefully that will come. Half the battle is getting on the end of all those chances and it’s to his credit how often that happened.
He’s great and shot at the sametime.
That actually is a perfect phrase to describe his form. But I think the exponential growth in his performances for the first team is very promising and I think it can only get better with world class coaches and players around him.
I agree that the tap-ins need to go in for him to be an absolute gem of a player for us, but I don't like the under rating of his abilities around here. That goal against Watford would have garnered rave reviews if a Messi, or in case of this season, a Salah scored it. Horrendously underrated by some on here..
Dont waste too much time on this guy. Looks like he is trying to convince himself. I always prefer a player getting to big chances rather than not.
All this talk about Lingard needing many chances is very knee-jerk. Look at his expected goals this season. There is nothing in it that indicates that he is a poor finisher.
And fluffed every dangerous position he got into too. He could run I’ll give him that.
Why replace Lingard when Sterling and Alli were worse?
Watching him moving in spaces between opponents is a joy, I like his positioning awareness.
They were as bad as each other for me.
Sterling/Lingard very similar - energy, buzzing around, atrocious finishing/decision making when it matters.
Alli started well but was clearly carrying a knock and should have come off way before he did.
Lingard is a bit meh isn't he, for England and utd. Looks quality on times, and utterly useless on others. His movement is good, but he often isn't involved in the game, goes missing for periods and you wouldn't rely on him to put away an easy chance or make the right pass everytime........he's good, just not very consistent
Most media outlets scored Lingard 7, Alli 5 and Sterling 5/6 last night.
I think Lingard was slightly better.
Not too sure what the clamour for RLC is. I don’t see what some people see in him, obviously. Anyhow I would drop the atrocious Sterling or Alli before I would drop Lingard.
RLC was able to go much more forward when England were chasing the winner, which isn't the case for Lingard because Lingard is much more the midfield partner for Henderson.
Alli wasn't contributing to the match or midfield link up with Henderson or the defenders because that's not his game, he's a second striker or forward player. Alli pushed up near Kane about 10 to 15 minutes before his exit, which enabled Maguire to carry the ball forward while Henderson stayed back.
At least for Kane, Sterling is a better foil. Rashford is a high impact sub along with RLC. Nothing wrong with coming off the bench as long as you're afforded time to impact the match and have a clear/defined role.
Alli should be changed for RLC. Lingard worked well on the right side with Trippier and Walker, then he dropped level with Henderson to provide midfield support.
He may well have been. Alli wasn't fit and Sterling was very poor.
But point remains - Lingard just isn't up there to be considered as a top level consistent performer. Spells here and there just aint going to cut it.
I've seen posts comparing him to Griezmann etc - he;s more Arnautovic than Griezman lets be honest
Well obviously he is not on par with Griezmann. If he was good though, he would be. Griezmann is not an out of this world talent, just a good player who happens to score a good amount of goals and has reasonably good decision making. He is not very fast, not a good dribbler, not very strong, not a good playmaker and not the hardest worker.
Why not? Thought he was invisible for majority of the game. Him, Sterling and Young dont deserve to start the next game. Replace them with Rose, Vardy and Rashford and will be better
He was not invisible at all, his caused havoc with his movement, the issue with him was that his finishing was poor. Also which one of Rashford/Vardy do you want to play CM?
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