[edcunited1878]

Didn't he just sign a new contract?

 

[Djemba-Djemba]

I think he will stay at United for a long time, he reminds me of Anderson, a very average player but he's very popular in the dressing room and fits into the culture of the club. Don't know why some of you are getting so touchy about him, he is never going to be a top player, that's very clear. He will be a decent squad player.

I'm a big critic of Lingard but even I think that's harsh.

Anderson was a complete waste of space.

 

[Eire Red United]

To those defending Lingard: do you realize he is taking a spot that we could provide to a player with real potential to develop into a world-beater?

There are players in our academy who May be ready and would jump at the chance of playing some first team football, but it's Lingard getting the call. For example, would you rather see Lingard in the team or TFM?
Lingard or Andreas Pereira (yes, I know he's on loan)?
I would take TFM or Pereira in the team any day instead of Lingard.

Even though TFM is a midfielder/right back and Lingard is a winger/cam? Hope TFM gets minutes on Wednesday

 

[devips]

If Messi comes in, I will personally request Lingard to stand down! Till then, let him continue.

 

[ravi2]

He's the new Kieran Richardson. Had a few good games and his cup final goal comes to mind, but overall way out of his depth.

He does remind me of Kieran Richardson. I think he had a bit more to offer tho. He is sometimes useful off the bench

 

[Acole9]

He does remind me of Kieran Richardson. I think he had a bit more to offer tho. He is sometimes useful off the bench

He's way better than Richardson ever was.

 

[Robbie Boy]

He's way better than Richardson ever was.

Aye. He's far ahead of what Richardson ever was and he has a much better attitude and work rate.

 

[JoaquinJoaquin]

I thought he contributed pretty well last season, and not just in the obvious way... But he looks very short of confidence now. He does pull defenders all over the place though, you have to give him that.

But is that alone worth the reported £80,000 a week he now wants? Not for me it's not.

 

[JoaquinJoaquin]

Lingard is contributing now. Pereira needs experience and is getting it on loan. Would you rather stunt his development by making him a bit part player here? And what Fosu Mensah has to do with anything I've no idea.

He has contributed very little this season in comparison to the amount of games he has played in. And even the games he may of grabbed a goal in, he done little else in.

 

[Sammyjunn]

He was decent under van Gaal but looks a bit useless now.

 

[Robbie Boy]

He was decent under van Gaal but looks a bit useless now.

Yup agree with this. He looked much better last season, imo. And even at that, he wasn't exactly setting the world alight last season. He hasn't even managed a league goal yet this season. I think he's either regressed or he suited a LvG system more (if there even was a system).

 

[TwoSheds]

He has contributed very little this season in comparison to the amount of games he has played in. And even the games he may of grabbed a goal in, he done little else in.

Goal or assist every 4 games, same as Rashford. Admittedly he's had a higher proportion of starts. Name 3 other 5th choice wingers who've contributed more this year.

 

[Pace Abuser]

He only has movement and pulls defenders all over the place because that's all he has to focus on in his game. He's useless with the ball, knowing that he does the one thing anyone can learn and apply, industry.

Even that was a mess against Blackburn when for the large majority of the game he ran around getting in everyone's way and completely disjointed our attacks. You can't dine off pulling one decent thing off in a game every time you play.

 

[Robbie Boy]

Lingard against Blackburn: 2 shots (both off target), no chances created, no tackles or interceptions made as he attempted none. He needs to play a hell of a-lot better when he's given the chance.

 

[Special_One]

If he wants to stay here as a squad option, great. If not, fine. Not the best player in the world, never will be but he gets a lot of unfair stick, he's average no more and no less.

 

[Paul the Wolf]

Goal or assist every 4 games, same as Rashford. Admittedly he's had a higher proportion of starts. Name 3 other 5th choice wingers who've contributed more this year.

His goals have been in the Community shield, the 4th goal of a 4-0 win and the 4th goal in a 4-1 win. His only meaningful contribution was the cross against WBA - he lived off his Cup Final goal for last season, now he's living off the cross in that match for this season, how do we ever manage without him.

The rest of the time he hardly does anything of any worth. He runs into spaces where he shouldn't taking our other players' space - if I was an opposition manager I'd tell my players not to bother following his runs, because if he receives the ball he rarely does anything with the ball.

How many 5th choice wingers would play as many games as he does.

Suppose he will make one other meaningful contribution before the end of the season to ensure he doesn't get sold.

 

[AndyJ1985]

He's way better than Richardson ever was.

"way better" would imply Lingard is actually quite good. He isn't. Marginally better would be more appropriate.

 

[sincher]

But is that alone worth the reported £80,000 a week he now wants? Not for me it's not.

As I said, probably not - he's not playing well at the moment, looks short of confidence. I would say he needs to pick up his form or he may well be off.

 

[TwoSheds]

"way better" would imply Lingard is actually quite good. He isn't. Marginally better would be more appropriate.

Way better as in "good enough to be a squad player for Manchester United" versus Richardson's "probably just about good enough to be a squad player at Sunderland".

 

[Oscie]

I don't understand people saying he has good positioning. He never seems to be involved in anything and seems to be constantly on the periphery of the game. When I was forced to play rounders at PE in primary school I'd deliberately place myself, when 'fielding', in the position the ball was never likely to go. Now I can can defend my slacking as 'great positioning'.

 

[luke511]

The only time Lingard is a "useful squad player" is when we're 3-0 up and have a healthy lead to defend. Other than that he's an absolute waste of a position.

Every time he starts, our attack suffers for it. It's like we're playing with 10 men for most of the game, and when he does touch the ball, majority of the time he either does a simple pass back or loses it.

 

[Oscie]

The only time Lingard is a "useful squad player" is when we're 3-0 up and have a healthy lead to defend. Other than that he's an absolute waste of a position.

Every time he starts, our attack suffers for it. It's like we're playing with 10 men for most of the game, and when he does touch the ball, majority of the time he either does a simple pass back or loses it.

There are players who have worse games, occasionally, but I don't think I can recall a player in our squad who gets as much game time as he does, who is so consistently utterly irrelevant. It isn't that he plays poorly half the time, at least you can't identify what it is he does wrong, it's more the fact that he might well as not be there. A couple of times this season I've noticed Lingard pop up in the 67th minute and thought I missed a substitution but then realise he's been on the pitch since the start of the game.

 

[Chaky_Best]

He's useless like Cleverley was. I mean he's good at one thing but not for this team. That may show what our academy produce

Clevz was very good at making short sideway passes when the team needed verticality.

The same goes for Lingard. He's very good at moving, without the ball, when we need player who create with the ball. When he plays right he always let Valencia do the job when he's only cutting inside. His production with the ball is awful. Can't cross, can't pass, can't dribble.

He's maybe a squad player, but he's playing a lot and always disapoint everyone.

 

[Robbie Boy]

He has been involved either as a starter or a sub in 64 games since last season. Some feat for a fifth choice winger.

 

[Red Ryan]

He's not good enough, if scoring a cup final goal is all you have to stay here we would have kept Lee Martin and never signed Paul Parker or Denis Irwin.

 

[devips]

I am amazed at the immensity of football knowledge of some caf members. Obviously they know everything. Equally obviously Van Gaal and Mourinho know nothing.

 

[Oscie]

I am amazed at the immensity of football knowledge of some caf members. Obviously they know everything. Equally obviously Van Gaal and Mourinho know nothing.

Why do you have an account here then if your view on everything presumably is: "the manager(s) knows more than me" on everything.

It can't be much fun discussing a game when all you think is that the person paid to pick the team is more qualified therefore you can't possibly have an opinion as to whether the team selection was right or wrong. Or who we should sign or sell on the basis that you don't know as much as Mourinho so presumably won't have a view on anything one way or another other than to back whatever decisions are made

Are your other 440 posts you declaring how unqualified you are to hold an opinion?

 

[devips]

Why do you have an account here then if your view on everything presumably is: "the manager(s) knows more than me" on everything.

It can't be much fun discussing a game when all you think is that the person paid to pick the team is more qualified therefore you can't possibly have an opinion as to whether the team selection was right or wrong. Or who we should sign or sell on the basis that you don't know as much as Mourinho so presumably won't have a view on anything one way or another other than to back whatever decisions are made

Are your other 440 posts you declaring how unqualified you are to hold an opinion?

Opinion is one thing. Agenda driven hate and drivel mongering is something else altogether.

 

[manunited1919]

Even though TFM is a midfielder/right back and Lingard is a winger/cam? Hope TFM gets minutes on Wednesday

Ashley Young takes Lingard's position and TFM goes to right back, thus preserving balance in team.

 

[Nickosaur]

Jesse will be dabbing in no time and you'll all be eating your stupid armchair words

 

[Paul the Wolf]

Opinion is one thing. Agenda driven hate and drivel mongering is something else altogether.

There is no hate, supporters of United want a minimum standard of player to play for the club, the minimum for a club like United should be good for the squad and very good or excellent for the first team. Lingard falls a long long way short of good.

The only agenda I can see on here, is fanboys blindly wanting a poor player to be part of the squad. Is it because you've got a poster of him on your bedroom wall?

 

[Janson]

How did Richardson divide opinion though? I don't remember anyone who didn't think he was shit. And Cleverley only divided opinion because he actually put in a number of good performances early in his career with us (like Anderson).

Lingard divides opinion because, despite being an OK if rather inconsistent player, he is the current Caf scapegoat when Fellaini's not playing now that Mata and Rojo have actually started playing football again. If Jones gets injured for a good spell or Smalling gets dropped for a bit the usual ruminant shit flinging nomads will move to their threads to slag them off instead. In fact, if Herrera keeps up his recent form he'll probably come back into the crosshairs too.

This is so obvious. He is a limited player, but I don't believe he deserves this kind of abuse.

 

[Paul the Wolf]

This is so obvious. He is a limited player, but I don't believe he deserves this kind of abuse.

No it's obvious Lingard is not good enough for United, end of story. Why should United employ a limited player, in your own words, for what possible reason.
Other players have off days and get criticised by posters. But they play well as well more often than not. Lingard has a good game once or twice a season.

 

[JoaquinJoaquin]

Opinion is one thing. Agenda driven hate and drivel mongering is something else altogether.

Ahhh the old agenda line. Not seen it for a few days. It isn't an agenda, he just isn't very good. Even the Lingard cousins 'LouBlaze and shamwow' don't try to defend him anymore.

 

[Pace Abuser]

Rojo? A world cup finalist. Smalling? Who's shown more than enough to warrant a place in the squad. Jones? Who's played at the Bernabeau (sp?) Under SAF. Herrera? His stats are superb.

What's Lingard ever done, apart from dine on a moment he had in the FA Cup? There's literally nothing redeeming about him. He's not even a prospect at his age. He should be showing a lot more than he is and quite frankly, over 64 games since last season, he hasn't.

 

[J-Stander]

Did he end up signing that contract? absolute dag shite. Wouldn't have looked out of place in that Blackburn team at the weekend and should be playing for someone of that ilk come the summer.

 

[AndyJ1985]

Opinion is one thing. Agenda driven hate and drivel mongering is something else altogether.

One of the most annoying trends on here is people confusing criticism with hate and having an agenda, oh or scapegoating of course. Heaven forbid we're allowed to give a critical opinion of a player without being accused of being hateful or having an agenda.

 

[Robbie Boy]

One of the most annoying trends on here is people confusing criticism with hate and having an agenda, oh or scapegoating of course. Heaven forbid we're allowed to give a critical opinion of a player without being accused of being hateful or having an agenda.

Couldn't agree more.

 

[Oscie]

Not nearly as annoying as the inevitable claim all criticism of a player is instantly voided if they have a good game.

 

[don't sign old players]

He needs to finish this season like a house on fire to justify staying in the team. More decisive movement on the ball, more intensity around the teeth of goal, more dangerous passes into the box. He needs a huge couple of months.