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Obscene amount but glad he's got the contract. Think he'll perform a Young role for us, which might not be popular with some, but good to come on sometimes and have a burst of energy and enthusiasm, which can take the opposition by surprise.
 
It's not though - if you look at my own club Spurs we work on the basis that if you perform on the pitch to a high standard we regularly will review your contract and improve the terms - gives players the motivation to improve as they know they will be rewarded for it. I'm not saying Lingard isn't a decent squad player - but £95,000 is a crazy, crazy amount to be paying a fringe player - Kane just crossed the £100,000 mark (at least I think he did) after several seasons of consistently strong performances.

I agree. It's a crazy amount for someone who doesn't repay that back in performance levels. I guess he has benefitted from us getting Schneiderlin and Depay (in the next few weeks) off the books.
 
It's not though - if you look at my own club Spurs we work on the basis that if you perform on the pitch to a high standard we regularly will review your contract and improve the terms - gives players the motivation to improve as they know they will be rewarded for it. I'm not saying Lingard isn't a decent squad player - but £95,000 is a crazy, crazy amount to be paying a fringe player - Kane just crossed the £100,000 mark (at least I think he did) after several seasons of consistently strong performances.

I get what you are saying mate and mostly agree this is a lot for Lingard but you can't measure different clubs wage structures against each other directly.

Kane earns £100k with Spurs and he's their top man, so is it safe to assume that a squad player at Spurs earns around £25-35k?

If so then relatively speaking this deal would be in line with that just on a bigger scale. United's top earners are making £250-300k pw, solid first teamers £100-200k and squad players £60-100k. So if a player is financially motivated then theres still room there to move up the ladder and be rewarded with a bigger wage if your performances warrant it. When you're contract is next up for negotiation.
 
The worst post of this thread.

That's how the fan boys were defending him previously, doesn't cost much and is a useful member of the squad. Now he's one of the highest paid , more than regular first teamers. And will be almost impossible to shift on those wages.

Worst post in the thread for the worst player in the squad.
 
That's how the fan boys were defending him previously, doesn't cost much and is a useful member of the squad. Now he's one of the highest paid , more than regular first teamers. And will be almost impossible to shift on those wages.

Worst post in the thread for the worst player in the squad.

It's the same people who say 'he is a good squad player' when he is pretty much a starter at this point.
 
It seems weird to shift Schneiderlin and possibly Depay and get them wages off. Only to give supposedly close to 100k for another player not good enough to be starting matches. Fair play to Lingard though he's set for life now, some life.
 
There's literally nothing to suggest he's signed for 95k a week other than Neil Custis at the fecking Sun.

And everyone is raging

It's not even factual at this point.
 
It's the same people who say 'he is a good squad player' when he is pretty much a starter at this point.

I don't mind Lingard he's a useful player. But he just isn't a starter at this point, maybe in the future he could be if he improves. To be a starter you have to play the majority of games when you are fit.
 
I don't mind Lingard he's a useful player. But he just isn't a starter at this point, maybe in the future he could be if he improves. To be a starter you have to play the majority of games when you are fit.

He starts alot of games, More than the bog standard squad player. Plus he has started over the likes of Martial, Mkhi, Rashford and Mata on a number of occasions this season which indicates to me that he is considered a starter by Jose, as much as I don't rate him for that.
 
How gullible are some of the fans here that they actually believe report from The Sun who ran an exclusive earlier as well stating we have reached an agreement with Lingard for his contract renewal with new wages agreed as £50000 per week.

We may very well be negotiating with Lingard for his contract renewal and even after factoring in our reputation as generous pay master I don't think we would be offering anywhere close to £95000 a week to a player who would be hard pressed to get a contract worth even £50000 a week outside of United.
 
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If he's signed a new deal that's obviously great.

The wages figure doesn't really matter, but I will say that you should never believe the figures the press go with.
 
There's literally nothing to suggest he's signed for 95k a week other than Neil Custis at the fecking Sun.

And everyone is raging

It's not even factual at this point.
Just what I was thinking. Did I miss something or is The Sun not as shit a source as ever?
 
Just what I was thinking. Did I miss something or is The Sun not as shit a source as ever?

The Sun remains at the very bottom of the Gutter Press to us rational individuals.

Some people who just don't like Lingard will look for any reason to spend time in this thread saying he's crap. It's remarkable really.
 
That would work out at £1million per non-crap performance. Just as well he's a £25k/week squad player.
Hopefully this is a WUM

The Sun remains at the very bottom of the Gutter Press to us rational individuals.

Some people who just don't like Lingard will look for any reason to spend time in this thread saying he's crap. It's remarkable really.

If he was on £5 a week it would be too much
 
That's how the fan boys were defending him previously, doesn't cost much and is a useful member of the squad. Now he's one of the highest paid , more than regular first teamers. And will be almost impossible to shift on those wages.

Worst post in the thread for the worst player in the squad.

Maybe 95k seems high (although market rates for wages are rising rapidly across the board) but 25k is certainly way too low for the player of his calibre. I would have thought that even posters with an agenda against him would agree to that.

Also there is no indication that the club is thinking of shifting him but looks like they are keen on retaining him.
 
Don't care about the wages, the wage structure at this club seems to be leaning towards this. 2-300 thousand for the best players and squad players around 100.000.
Almost makes them impossible to shift if it doesn't work out.

He came on against Hull at 1-0 and had two opportunities to create something. The first he seemed to have their right back beat and was in acres of space at their penalty box but he didn't trust his pace and turned back and passed it back.
He also had a crossing opportunity at the right flank, in a perfect place for a cross under no pressure he passes it back to Valencia who crosses from an awkward angle. Keep in mind the team really wanted that second goal.

He is just not fun to watch, for a player who pops up with something spectacular every now and again it's weird how few chances he takes in his game. He reminds me so much of LVG football that I find it hard to like him.
 
How gullible are some of the fans here that they actually believe report from The Sun who ran an exclusive earlier as well stating we have reached an agreement with Lingard for his contract renewal with new wages agreed as £50000 per week.

We may very well be negotiating with Lingard for his contract renewal and even after factoring in our reputation as generous pay master I don't think we would be offering anywhere close to £95000 a week to a player who would be hard pressed to get a contract worth even £50000 a week outside of United.
Exactly, let's wait for some more reports.

The figure of £95k is way too high for his contribution, the club can't be that crazy .. such profligacy would see us ruined.
 
Glad whenever an academy product has future with our first team, but the rumored wage offer is just mind boggling.
 
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He starts alot of games, More than the bog standard squad player. Plus he has started over the likes of Martial, Mkhi, Rashford and Mata on a number of occasions this season which indicates to me that he is considered a starter by Jose, as much as I don't rate him for that.

He really doesn't mate he gets starts because squad players will sometimes start games over players higher in the pecking order than them, thats how it works. Darmian and Fellaini are squad players and both have started 12 times, the same amount of games as Lingard.

He has started 12 of the 32 games United have played this season which indicates to me that he is a squad player. Lets be honest he would have had to start around 20 of those games before you could really say he's a starter.
 
Maybe 95k seems high (although market rates for wages are rising rapidly across the board) but 25k is certainly way too low for the player of his calibre. I would have thought that even posters with an agenda against him would agree to that.

Also there is no indication that the club is thinking of shifting him but looks like they are keen on retaining him.

There's no agenda, I support United not any particular player. If the figure of £95k is correct then it makes him impossible to move to another club, I don't see him improving and there's no reason to have a player of a lower standard in the team. We can afford much better players for these kind of wages.

Hopefully it is all nonsense. What irks me is when people say he deserves this kind of money, he clearly doesn't.
 
Really? That's a very generous comparison imo. Both in style and quality, I find Lingard a long way from Lallana's level.

Yeah I was being a bit diplomatic in terms of quality I'll admit. But I think they're pretty similar in terms of their all-round game and their attributes; pace, movement, link up play, work rate, control. Lallana definitely has more edge to him. That's about the level I could see Lingard reaching eventually though, which isn't bad. Not great, but not bad either.
 
Yeah I was being a bit diplomatic in terms of quality I'll admit. But I think they're pretty similar in terms of their all-round game and their attributes; pace, movement, link up play, work rate, control. Lallana definitely has more edge to him. That's about the level I could see Lingard reaching eventually though, which isn't bad. Not great, but not bad either.

Lallana is a much, much more talented player than Lingard tbh.
 
Lingard is the worst player in the squad and gets £95k. We deserve failure!
The worst player in the squad who won us our last two pieces of silverware? Fellaini must be amazing, Schweinsteiger, Darmian and Memphis too.
 
Lingard is the worst player in the squad and gets £95k. We deserve failure!

You don't have to be a fan of Lingard to say that he clearly isn't. He's easily level with the likes of Fellaini, Darmian and Depay.

That said I'd also find that salary disproportionate.

Lallana is a much, much more talented player than Lingard tbh.

Much more maybe. Not sure about much, much more.. :p
 
New PL deal this summer=transfer fees go up, wages go up. You can't judge by what people were paid a few years ago as it's a new game. You probably need to look at wages to turnover or wages to wage budget. If you say £200m will be the total outlay on wages in a year, Lingard's wages (£5m/year) will be 2.5% or one fortieth. With 25 maximum players in the squad, £95k/week doesn't sound like so much.
 
95k isn't even confirmed by the club, you're all choosing to believe The Sun ffs.

Jesus wept.
 
Moaning about the supposed wage and Scholesy with his stuff. Combination for a marvelous thread.
 
The worst player in the squad who won us our last two pieces of silverware? Fellaini must be amazing, Schweinsteiger, Darmian and Memphis too.

Going along with your reasoning actually Mata and Ibrahimovic won them and the rest of the team had nothing to do with it.
Fellaini and Darmian are better at their jobs than Lingard, Schweinsteiger has been frozen out but even you can't say Lingard is a better player.
As for Memphis, looks like his days are numbered anyway but even he has the potential, at least you can see there's a good player in there somewhere.
 
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