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2016-17 Performances


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Based on a report by the Sun. I think the reported wage is excessive too, but I'll wait until there's more reporting on the subject. We've seen that first to report a story in this day and age isn't often the first one to have all their facts straight.
That's fair enough
 
Oh look we found the football expert who will teach us other fans how Lingard is the best thing since sliced bread and will be instrumental in us winning trophies, it's baffling how some people can't spot a dud.

Lingard's a great player, the fact you can't see the importance of squad players tells me you know nothing about football. How would you replace Lingard's role in the squad?
 
:lol: Love the hate in here for a player who's going to play a big role in us winning stuff over the next few years. Maybe there should be a thread educating some about football and how a team needs more than a starting 11. People who hate Lingard are probably in the same camp as the Fellaini haters. The lack of understanding about a football squad is baffling at times :wenger:
These are the people who want a squad of 18 world class players and nothing else.

Lingard is a fantastic squad player to have, doesn't moan if benched and will contribute when called upon. Yes he shouldn't be starting week in week out but when's he's needed he's brilliant.

He's clearly not going to get £90K a week, I don't know why people are getting worked up over a article from The Sun :wenger:.
 
Lingard's a great player, the fact you can't see the importance of squad players tells me you know nothing about football. How would you replace Lingard's role in the squad?

Yes know nothing about football , only supported United for 3 times longer than even Lingard has been at the club and never seen a player as poor as him at any time make as many appearances as he has. Of course squad players are important, doesn't mean one of them has to be Lingard. Lingard is in no way sense of the word a great player.
 
£95k p w according to BBC's gossip. Hope that's not true, would be a little insane for a rotational player who won't ever be in our best XI.
 
Can't believe we want to sell a potential like Depay for this Lingard who couldn't hit a barn door. It's a fact Depay will be way more successful than Lingard in the next 5 years. He just needs games and confidence.
what a stupid comment, maybe memphis doesn't have enough potential, maybe?? Lingard has showed much more than Depay in his few good games he had, just because he tore apart the league in fecking holland doesnt mean he will have the same impact here. This argument he has more potential is really annoying, mentaility is big part of your football ability and some of the palyers just don't have it to cut it at United like Zaha, di Maria or Depay, regardless of their potential or abilities and Lingard is decent little player and certainly more useful than Depay
 
Yes know nothing about football , only supported United for 3 times longer than even Lingard has been at the club and never seen a player as poor as him at any time make as many appearances as he has. Of course squad players are important, doesn't mean one of them has to be Lingard. Lingard is in no way sense of the word a great player.

You think Lingard is the worse player in all that time to make what 20 apperances?? Exaggeration is the tool of a fool.

But I do agree we should only select world class players or those with the potential to be one for our bench then we'd be the bestest team eva!
 
what a stupid comment, maybe memphis doesn't have enough potential, maybe?? Lingard has showed much more than Depay in his few good games he had, just because he tore apart the league in fecking holland doesnt mean he will have the same impact here. This argument he has more potential is really annoying, mentaility is big part of your football ability and some of the palyers just don't have it to cut it at United like Zaha, di Maria or Depay, regardless of their potential or abilities and Lingard is decent little player and certainly more useful than Depay
I love how he puts his opinion as a fact.
 
You think Lingard is the worse player in all that time to make what 20 apperances?? Exaggeration is the tool of a fool.

But I do agree we should only select world class players or those with the potential to be one for our bench then we'd be the bestest team eva!

Obviously you're not following Lingard's career very closely - 59 appearances till now, wonder who may be the tool or fool.
Where did I say we need only world class players, just good players to be part of the squad
 
As I said that is what Mourinho's stuck with, giving Lingard such a contract is even more ridiculous

You find it ridiculous that the club and Mourinho deem Lingard worthy of the contract they've offered him? They must not know what they're doing
 
Obviously you're not following Lingard's career very closely - 59 appearances till now, wonder who may be the tool or fool.
Where did I say we need only world class players, just good players to be part of the squad

I guess what other people are saying is that he has the potential to be a very good squad player for United. He has certainly shown flashes of it. He is a bit inconsistent but he is regarded as a late bloomer and ought to be able to iron out those issues. Over his career, he has the potential to be a important player for us.
 
I guess what other people are saying is that he has the potential to be a very good squad player for United. He has certainly shown flashes of it. He is a bit inconsistent but he is regarded as a late bloomer and ought to be able to iron out those issues. Over his career, he has the potential to be a important player for us.

How long do we have to wait for this potential to show other than the odd glimpse. People remind us that he's been at United for 17 years - you would think after all that time at United other than his loan spells he would have improved considerably by now.
If he turns out to be a good (doesn't have to be world class) player for us all well and good but I just don't see how that will happen and he's had plenty of opportunity.
 
if this figure is true, then i'm absolutely baffled by the decision. Lingard offers pretty much nothing and at 24 he's not even a "prospect" anymore. The only defence of him is the predictable "scored in a cup final", yet he's done nothing to warrant any kind of inclusion since then. Even the goal was right-place-right-time one off with him.

Not forgetting "movement" and "creating space for others", as if those qualities can't be bought in someone else who also manages to actually do something with the ball at his feet too, while not demanding a huge sum of money for being conceived in the Stretford end.

At any other top 6 club he would barely pass as a footballer, but at United whole sections of fans will overlook the obvious blinded by loyalty to the "academy" and the fact a stalk delivered him to Carrington when he was born.

His age doesn't have shit to do with anything when you take into consideration that this is only his second season as a first team player at United. Fergie predicted that Lingard would come into his own around 24, and that prophecy seems to be coming to fruition. He's going to get much better than he currently is. So really people need to stop harping on about his age.
 
Obviously you're not following Lingard's career very closely - 59 appearances till now, wonder who may be the tool or fool.
Where did I say we need only world class players, just good players to be part of the squad

Where you getting your stats from? You sure you're not including his Brighton loan?
 

They don't. They gave Rooney £300k, Young £120k, Fellaini £100k.
Lingard must be sold, a nothing player imo

Rooney is the most marketable player in the team. United decided to give him those wages as that what the market dictates these days for a player of his high profile. Its what it is. You always pay a premium for English talent in this league. Young was one of the best wingers in the PL when we signed him. You can have a go at Fellaini though. His speculated wages are actually closer to 80k than 100
 
How long do we have to wait for this potential to show other than the odd glimpse. People remind us that he's been at United for 17 years - you would think after all that time at United other than his loan spells he would have improved considerably by now.
If he turns out to be a good (doesn't have to be world class) player for us all well and good but I just don't see how that will happen and he's had plenty of opportunity.

What are you expecting him to show? No one is claiming he's going to be a great first team player, he's a 6/10 player that has had a few 8/10 and a few 4/10. That's what a squad player is.
 
He has indeed made 59 apps for United

Thanks but i was looking for a source not another source vouching for him :lol:

I really don't see how he could have to be honest. If he has the majority od those are slim sub appearances.
 
What are you expecting him to show? No one is claiming he's going to be a great first team player, he's a 6/10 player that has had a few 8/10 and a few 4/10. That's what a squad player is.

Some are claiming that, however.
To be a good squad player out of 10 you'd expect a couple of poor ones, majority at at least average or better and a couple of very good.
You may think he has done this, sorry but he's way short imo
 

They don't. They gave Rooney £300k, Young £120k, Fellaini £100k.
Lingard must be sold, a nothing player imo
I'd be careful of judging others about their judgements Scholesy, we've all seen your catalogue of failed predictions when it comes to players.
 
Yes know nothing about football , only supported United for 3 times longer than even Lingard has been at the club and never seen a player as poor as him at any time make as many appearances as he has. Of course squad players are important, doesn't mean one of them has to be Lingard. Lingard is in no way sense of the word a great player.

And I've watched more porn movies then Lingard has done dabs so I'm pretty sure I would be amazing in bed, if I ever got laid.
 
The only thing about Lingard that really annoys me is his finishing. It's woeful.

Other than that he's a decent player and a perfectly fine backup option.
 
Strange that this hasn't been reported by any credible outlets :confused:

I for one am happy if it is true though, i actually think he's a good player and he will get better as he matures even though he is no longer a kid.. he is relatively inexperienced.
 
Some are claiming that, however.
To be a good squad player out of 10 you'd expect a couple of poor ones, majority at at least average or better and a couple of very good.
You may think he has done this, sorry but he's way short imo

About 40 starts he's had by the looks of things, more than i thought tbf. In that he's scored in the FA cup final, community shield, twice in the Europa.

If you think thats a bad output for a lad brought through the ranks since 7 then im confused. Chances are he'll move on in a year or two but its important our youth get their chance and he's done better than the likes of Cleverley and plenty before him in filling that space.

I think your expectations are too high, they're not all going to be like Rashford.
 
But people accept Rashford's dips in form because he's shown that he's capable of being very good at this level. Not sure Lingard ever has really. At times he's looked decent but rarely has he ever shone. The bar's set lower for Lingard than any other player in the squad. Let's be honest, it we judged Lingard the same as we would a purchased player in his mid 20s he'd be getting Fellaini-levels of hate and dismay when his name is on the team sheet.

It wouldn't be right, but it'd happen.
 
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About 40 starts he's had by the looks of things, more than i thought tbf. In that he's scored in the FA cup final, community shield, twice in the Europa.

If you think thats a bad output for a lad brought through the ranks since 7 then im confused. Chances are he'll move on in a year or two but its important our youth get their chance and he's done better than the likes of Cleverley and plenty before him in filling that space.

I think your expectations are too high, they're not all going to be like Rashford.

It's at least 44 starts , there's three I'm not sure about. ie most of them, rarely from the bench.
Yes he scored in the FA Cup Final but he can't live on that for the rest of his career. Part of his job is to score goals but as said before, that's not my main concern. He's no longer a young player and when he's poor he's really poor. He should have developed more if he's been here so long
 
The board would be out of their mind to give that amount of money on his weekly wages. Nothing much to add.
 
Obviously you're not following Lingard's career very closely - 59 appearances till now, wonder who may be the tool or fool.
Where did I say we need only world class players, just good players to be part of the squad
Mate, Kieran Richardson made 81 apps. Absolute arse.
 
But people accept Rashford's dips in form because he's shown that he's capable of being very good at this level. Not sure Lingard ever has really. At times he's looked decent but rarely has he ever shone. The bar's set lower for Lingard than any other player in the squad. Let's be honest, it we judged Lingard the same as we would a purchased player in his mid 20s he'd be getting Fellaini-levels of hate and dismay when his name is on the team sheet.

It wouldn't be right, but it'd happen.
3 top managers happen to rate Lingard...Fergie, LVG now Mou. He's not world class but always helps the team when he plays and he was free so why would we judge him like we purchased him? and btw he's not keeping anyone out of the team why the hate?
 
3 top managers happen to rate Lingard...Fergie, LVG now Mou. He's not world class but always helps the team when he plays and he was free so why would we judge him like we purchased him? and btw he's not keeping anyone out of the team why the hate?

I get the point but he didn't make a single senior start under Ferguson, in fact I'm not sure he ever played under him.

For me it's that he's a United player, in his mid 20s and the expectation bar still seems be as if he's fresh from the maternity ward and someone's slapped a pair of boots on him. I accept he's a decent squad player and have no wish to see him go. But on the same time I'm not going to be in awe of average performances like an over enthusiastic parent of an obese child who's managed to throw a ball.

He should be judged with his peers not made exceptions for because he comes from the academy. If you do that then he's easily one of the weakest players in the team. Does that mean it's fine to hate him? No. But it does mean we should stop overstating how good his performances are because of some loyalty to the traditions of the club we think he represents. He's a player, not the living embodiment of the Busby Babes. It should be okay to say "he's quite average" in comparison with most others around him. People are afraid to IMO.
 
He's a decent squad player but if we start paying squad players 95k then when we buy top talents they are all going to be expecting another 100K on top of that.
 
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