Apart from scoring goals in cup finals and that awesome cross he delivered the other week.
Too inconsistent though and needs a more open game to thrive.
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- Goals
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- Assists
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- Yellow cards
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Apart from scoring goals in cup finals and that awesome cross he delivered the other week.
Too inconsistent though and needs a more open game to thrive.
One goal in a cup final and one cross. The reason the game is not open is because he takes the space so it gets congested as you see when he goes off it opens up, every time. He is the LVG of the football field, LVG also managed us to win the Cup Final, thankfully he has gone.
I am not saying he is very high quality player. Actually he has more moments of poor quality than good quality. But he also has some excellent moments. That cross to Zlatan was exceptionally hard. However he is not good enough to be a starter for us.
Calling him a nothing player is a load of shite. He had a nothing match though.
So you don't think he's fast, with good acceleration? Clearly you're mistakening Lingard with Fellaini then.
Don't know where you plucked Fellaini from out of that but ok. Lingard is pretty quick yes but doesn't have the acceleration of a Rashford or Martial if you want to nitpick. Funny how they were the only attributes you could choose to defend him with aswell.
Why Jesse Lingard deserves better treatment from some Manchester United fans
Man Utd academy graduate Jesse Lingard has received harsh criticism in recent weeks but remains a valuable part of Jose Mourinho's squad.
Jose Mourinho 's proactive subs ensured a vital three points at West Ham - and also confirmed an excellent day for the keyboard warriors.
The sight of Jesse Lingard trudging off the field contrasted neatly with the pace and skill of Marcus Rashford setting up the opening goal for Juan Mata, prompting another barrage of tweets about exactly why the Warrington-born academy graduate had started.
Analysis and criticism of Mourinho's United line-ups are nothing new, and often create interesting discussion in advance of kick offs.
But the internet vitriol aimed at Lingard when the manager has the temerity to include him surpasses that for any other current player.
Trash, not good enough to wear the shirt, would rather play with ten men than Lingard - just a few of the tweets aimed his way on Monday, long before he missed an easy chance to break the deadlock himself.
It is bizarre that a lad wearing United red as a toddler for a kickabout in his back garden, who has subsequently grown up at the club he loves, is often the target for the most vicious abuse.
The reaction at matches is unsurprisingly more nuanced, and he is yet to experience the Marouane Fellaini treatment from even a minority of idiots at Old Trafford, but he remains a polarising figure.
His social media accounts don't help - too often straying close to cringe rather than cool. An ill-advised Snapchat at West Ham last season and a dabbing Christmas jumper are just two example, and have only fuelled the fire of those determined to find fault.
Lingard is not first choice under Mourinho, and nor should he be, but he is a useful squad member - and when facing two games in little more than 48 hours a modicum of rotation is to be expected.
Sir Alex Ferguson understood the benefits of the academy did not always have to extend to finding a Paul Scholes or Paul Pogba.
His title winning teams also contained the likes of Wes Brown and John O'Shea, who were rarely first choice when everyone was fit, but were vital contributors to the Old Trafford trophy cabinet after coming off the club's own production line.
Lingard is unlikely to ever eclipse his stunning goal to win the FA Cup in May, and while the argument is he should not be allowed to trade off that, his detractors seem eager to disregard it entirely.
His miss at West Ham emphasised his worst quality - finishing, but that performance at the London Stadium was just a few weeks removed from an excellent display at West Brom, complete with a quality assist for Zlatan Ibrahimovic.
Yet to score in the Premier League this term, despite 14 shots and eight on target, Lingard has already created more chances for teammates than he did in the whole of last term and doubled his assist tally.
While the soporific football witnessed under Louis van Gaal ensures the attacking stats as a whole are up, it proves Lingard is far from a mere defensive lackey when Mourinho wants to shut up shop.
Involved at around the same rate this season as last, his success from wide areas has improved markedly under Mourinho's tutelage, especially when it comes to finding a red shirt in the box with a cross.
While Ibrahimovic is the runaway top scorer, Lingard's tally of three in all competitions compares decently with Rashford (four) and Anthony Martial (five) from a similar number of appearances.
Lingard at 24 is older than either and isn't ever likely to turn into the calibre of player that remains very much within his teammates' grasp.
But he has more to offer than he is often given credit for.
There is no question he needs to improve certain facets of his game.
But for an academy graduate, United fan and squad asset in Mourinho's first campaign in charge, he doesn't deserve such a rough ride.
http://www.manchestereveningnews.co...manchester-united-news-jesse-lingard-12405123
Man Utd academy graduate Jesse Lingard has received harsh criticism in recent weeks but remains a valuable part of Jose Mourinho's squad.
Jose Mourinho 's proactive subs ensured a vital three points at West Ham - and also confirmed an excellent day for the keyboard warriors.
The sight of Jesse Lingard trudging off the field contrasted neatly with the pace and skill of Marcus Rashford setting up the opening goal for Juan Mata, prompting another barrage of tweets about exactly why the Warrington-born academy graduate had started.
Analysis and criticism of Mourinho's United line-ups are nothing new, and often create interesting discussion in advance of kick offs.
But the internet vitriol aimed at Lingard when the manager has the temerity to include him surpasses that for any other current player.
Trash, not good enough to wear the shirt, would rather play with ten men than Lingard - just a few of the tweets aimed his way on Monday, long before he missed an easy chance to break the deadlock himself.
It is bizarre that a lad wearing United red as a toddler for a kickabout in his back garden, who has subsequently grown up at the club he loves, is often the target for the most vicious abuse.
The reaction at matches is unsurprisingly more nuanced, and he is yet to experience the Marouane Fellaini treatment from even a minority of idiots at Old Trafford, but he remains a polarising figure.
His social media accounts don't help - too often straying close to cringe rather than cool. An ill-advised Snapchat at West Ham last season and a dabbing Christmas jumper are just two example, and have only fuelled the fire of those determined to find fault.
Lingard is not first choice under Mourinho, and nor should he be, but he is a useful squad member - and when facing two games in little more than 48 hours a modicum of rotation is to be expected.
Sir Alex Ferguson understood the benefits of the academy did not always have to extend to finding a Paul Scholes or Paul Pogba.
His title winning teams also contained the likes of Wes Brown and John O'Shea, who were rarely first choice when everyone was fit, but were vital contributors to the Old Trafford trophy cabinet after coming off the club's own production line.
Lingard is unlikely to ever eclipse his stunning goal to win the FA Cup in May, and while the argument is he should not be allowed to trade off that, his detractors seem eager to disregard it entirely.
His miss at West Ham emphasised his worst quality - finishing, but that performance at the London Stadium was just a few weeks removed from an excellent display at West Brom, complete with a quality assist for Zlatan Ibrahimovic.
Yet to score in the Premier League this term, despite 14 shots and eight on target, Lingard has already created more chances for teammates than he did in the whole of last term and doubled his assist tally.
While the soporific football witnessed under Louis van Gaal ensures the attacking stats as a whole are up, it proves Lingard is far from a mere defensive lackey when Mourinho wants to shut up shop.
Involved at around the same rate this season as last, his success from wide areas has improved markedly under Mourinho's tutelage, especially when it comes to finding a red shirt in the box with a cross.
While Ibrahimovic is the runaway top scorer, Lingard's tally of three in all competitions compares decently with Rashford (four) and Anthony Martial (five) from a similar number of appearances.
Lingard at 24 is older than either and isn't ever likely to turn into the calibre of player that remains very much within his teammates' grasp.
But he has more to offer than he is often given credit for.
There is no question he needs to improve certain facets of his game.
But for an academy graduate, United fan and squad asset in Mourinho's first campaign in charge, he doesn't deserve such a rough ride.
http://www.manchestereveningnews.co...manchester-united-news-jesse-lingard-12405123
He is a shit player the sooner we sell him the better will be for the club.For a top club fighting for silverwares Lingard is and will never be good enough.
Mourinho knows what he can do which is the main thing.
He actually won us silverware last May.
Don't think he's of any inconvenience to anyone by making 30 appearances for United a season with a mixture of starts and sub ins.
I think he's more than proved his worth as a squad member.
I don't think he's keeping anyone out of the side, the better players unfortunately kept themselves out of the side when dropped, and if anything, i don't think you can say it was unjustified.
I'm not a fan of the social media stuff which people use against him, but as a player. No issues for me. You need players like him in a successful squad.
I think he's more than proved his worth as a squad member.
I don't think he's keeping anyone out of the side, the better players unfortunately kept themselves out of the side when dropped, and if anything, i don't think you can say it was unjustified.
I'm not a fan of the social media stuff which people use against him, but as a player. No issues for me. You need players like him in a successful squad.
And dont we know about it....
This is the problem though, He is.
Just look at the last game, He kept Rashford (the eventual MOTM) and Martial (MOTM the previous game) out of the side. To perform mediocre as per.
Someone on the Caf wrote that article or they copied his fan club posts on here
I feel his development has stagnated somewhat, if I'm being completely honest. If this is the maximum potential that he has, then I don't think he will have a long-term future here. He can look pretty lively in some games and totally inept in others. I think he definitely lacks consistency and I personally prefer him off the bench than starting.
So does he get the most vicious abuse, or does he not?
The MEN bloke also fails to understand that United (and twitter) are WorldWide entities and that fans in the US or Kenya couldn't give a feck if Jesse is from just down the road because it's not "just down the road" for them. Nor does the fella understand that the internet is a World full of trolls where semi-pro footballers poke fun at pros for losing babies etc.
Comapring him to Wes Brown
And therein lies the problem, Wes Brown can be a squad player that can suddenly stay fit for a full season and help lead you to a CL and PL double.
Just answered to a post that said he's not good enough for a club fighting for silverware.
So using that logic, Eder is a player that all top clubs chasing silverware should buy?
And we should never have replaced Lee Martin with Paul Parker/Irwin?
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It really is a very poor retort. I would say if you look through a list of players that have scored for their clubs in various cup wins, you will find that plenty went on to leave the club soon after and move onto lesser things. Break it down more; he scored a good goal against Palace.
Exactly. It seems to of given him a permanent stay of execution from the club for some people though.
His fans make a point of saying he's been here since he was 7, there's no questioning his love for the club or his loyalty. But after 17 years at United, is this as good as it gets? Sorry but he'll never be good enough and the rare positive thing he does is not sufficient and no he didn't win the cup all by himself
Sometimes I don't get some of us? Lingard is one of us. Does his job and gets on with it.
He is a squad player nothing more nothing less and he is happy to play it. We should be proud of our youth, he is getting into the England squad and playing for us on regular basis. He isn't Ronaldo or Messi but he is really good enough to make our bench and play his part for us..
He is a squad player nothing more nothing less and he is happy to play it. We should be proud of our youth, he is getting into the England squad and playing for us on regular basis. He isn't Ronaldo or Messi but he is really good enough to make our bench and play his part for us..
Lingard is a valuable asset for the team, and he will be a part of it come next season. Mourinho doesn't need to read redcafe when he chooses his players. So eat your heart out, whingers.
When United are properly back where they should be, chasing CL titles and the like, he won't be on our bench. The West Ham game showed exactly what a United bench attacking player (Mata, Rashford) should be able to do which is to turn a game on it's head.
Rashford who has had some v poor performances this season and Martial who was apparently tired, and the club is pissed with his agent.
Lingaard was given a crack of the whip and was poor and Rashford came on and was brilliant.
Shit happens. Move on.
What really gets me about all this, is that United fans normally should want what's best for the club, and to have a sub-standard player in the club 'just because he's one of us' is so wrong. I don't support Jesse Lingard or any other particular player and never have done - if a player's not good enough he shouldn't be playing for a club of our stature - end of. We're not a Jesse Lingard benefit association.
He isn't the one keeping them out. Martial was doing nothing, for a while. Rashford had been poor prior to his last two games, as any young player is. When that happens, you can rely on someone like Lingard to fill the role so they can fight for their places. No manager in the world would pick him ahead of the younger more talented two on the basis of ability. It was down to THEIR form.
Lingard has not produced much form either to be fair!
Mourinho trusts him. Long may it continue. Haters deal with it
No player deserves anything from the supporters. Rightly or wrongly they get what they get. That's a real cringeworthy piece.
After Mkhitaryan has found a place in the starting eleven I struggle to make a case for Lingard. Both like to drift inside, and Micky has arguably the same attributes but is without a doubt a much better player. If both of them start, we will struggle for width and the midfield is congested.
He should be a back up for Mkhitaryan, it is vital for the setup of the team that the left winger is an attacking, wide outlet. Valencia has so much energy and power that he allows the right winger a bit of a free role, our options aren't the same on the left.
Call him a squad player, but he is still regularly getting picked before Rashford, Martial, Mkhitaryan (until a few weeks ago) and Mata. If Mkhitaryan is unavailable I can see why he'd be an option, but they should not start together, it hurts a system that is finally building up steam.
He should be a back up for Mkhitaryan, it is vital for the setup of the team that the left winger is an attacking, wide outlet. Valencia has so much energy and power that he allows the right winger a bit of a free role, our options aren't the same on the left.
Call him a squad player, but he is still regularly getting picked before Rashford, Martial, Mkhitaryan (until a few weeks ago) and Mata. If Mkhitaryan is unavailable I can see why he'd be an option, but they should not start together, it hurts a system that is finally building up steam.
What's wrong with having a squad player about? Fergie got good use from these players. O'Shea, Brown, Phil Neville, Fletcher, Park. Can we not just accept Lingard for a squad player who gives his all? The way some of you act with your pitch forks are embarrassing.
He isn't just a squad player though this is what people are saying. He starts most of the time when he is available, apart from the odd game here and there because he is generally poor the match before hand so doesn't get selected. Park was twice the player Lingard is IMHO. The other players are different positions so cannot really be compared.
There it is again!! Wtf
Wes Brown was a mainstay in a CL & PL double winning team, and a miles better player than Lingard.
Of the players mentioned above he possibly comes closest to O'Shea who was more useful because he could play anywhere.
Reading this thread gives you a bit of de ja vu. It follows, almost verbatim, the exact same pattern (posters and their comments!) after every match, barring the occasional (albeit rare!) decent-good outing from Lingard, when the thread becomes a bit "silent".
Don't really understand why people have to go out of their way to make themselves appear so upset the post is squiggly because they were shaking with rage while they post venom about how shit Lingard is. We get it, some people don't rate him. Why waste your breath forcefully yapping over the top of other people who want to share their opinion and have a sensible discussion one of our players.
It is so counter productive. He's a solid squad player and nothing more, players like this are hard to find. People should be allowed to share their thoughts and opinions on the matter.
It is so counter productive. He's a solid squad player and nothing more, players like this are hard to find. People should be allowed to share their thoughts and opinions on the matter.
Erm, no they're not. They are ten a penny.
No. He has started in 11 games in our 30 we have played so far. That's about a third of our total games. That's fair enough for a squad player. 8 in the league out of 20 games.
According to Who Scored he has started 9 league games. He was injured for the first 3 league matches. So 9 starts out of 17 in the league means he has more starts in the league than Rashford, Martial and Mkhitaryan. He's more than just a squad player and should be judged as one. And as a starter he's not been good enough, he's had a couple of good games but he should be lower in the pecking order.
If that your problem than you have problem with JM, he pick up squad not Lingard.
If he is playing more game its means
1) Our starting players are not if form or need a break,
2) JM think he is right fit for his formation and using him,
In any of case JM is responsible to playing him.
He is squad player and playing its part when needed.
Can't believe we want to sell a potential like Depay for this Lingard who couldn't hit a barn door. It's a fact Depay will be way more successful than Lingard in the next 5 years. He just needs games and confidence.
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