With respect when you're using a word like "brilliant" to describe Lingard then when someone makes you your favourite sandwich you must literally be in danger of death by perpetual orgasm.
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With respect when you're using a word like "brilliant" to describe Lingard then when someone makes you your favourite sandwich you must literally be in danger of death by perpetual orgasm.
lol he's part of the problem
Yeah because players like Rooney, Scholes and Neville have 'looked and sounded fancy' down the years, that's exactly why people rated them.
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Well, it would only probably kick good old debate about his weekly wage for a bench player.
But, yeah, people would certainly have less problem with him in that case...
Either way, he definitely has his qualities and in my eyes is valuable option to have. You have Mhki out of form and basically have nothing, just waiting whole 90 minutes for that moment of brilliance which many times doesn't even come. With Lingard you always know, even with his bad finishing, that he will stretch the defense, make some good runs, work his socks off. I think that's why Jose likes him also. In a way, he is reliable.
Congrats.
Was atrocious the last game missing three big chances. When it comes to making that key final pass or clinical finish rest assured he'll find ways to mess it up.
Sure he works hard which helps us get clean sheets, but what good is that when he's a blunt sword going forwards? The best teams in the world play with wingers and forwards who don't always track back. I understand playing him against the bigger sides for his work rate and defensive efforts, but I just don't get playing him against lesser opponents.
Sure he works hard which helps us get clean sheets, but what good is that when he's a blunt sword going forwards? The best teams in the world play with wingers and forwards who don't always track back. I understand playing him against the bigger sides for his work rate and defensive efforts, but I just don't get playing him against lesser opponents.
If he were called Jose Lingardinho, I would have had praised all his misses last night and called them masterpieces that helped us to victory. Unfortunately his name isn't fancy enough, so I think he was poor and his misses were shockers.
How dare he missed a couple of sitters in a game of football, no player winger or striker has ever done it.
It's true, if he and his name were fancy we'd be wanking over his all-round game yesterday.
Its sad that he isn't banging them in as his overall play is often very good.. Movement top class and workrate top notch.. But he needs to up his game in the final third if he wants to become a regular..
Well no, I'll judge him off his form since coming into the first team and he hasn't been good / consistent enough.
Your rubbish about his name personifies the excuses for him.
If moyes was Portuguese, maybe more people would have recognized that he was doing a great job. Right?
Yeah, his movement and effort is really good. His greatest strengths are Martial's greatest weaknesses. Combine the two of them and you'd have a hell of a player...
A big reason he isn't banging them is due to his serious lack of technical ability. It's not just a luck thing, he's generally poor when it comes to technical aspects of the game. This makes it difficult for me to comprehend how fans can be pleased with him being a long term United player.
Nah, he's scored plenty of excellent goals at all levels for United (and on loan). Using a wide range of techniques. His technical ability is fine, he just lacks composure in front of goal. He lacks a little composure all over the pitch actually. Tends to rush his passes or make hasty, poor decisions. There's a good chance he'll iron this out of his game as he matures, though.
Last night Lingard missed 2 golden chances, but it's not like it's the first time this season he has missed good chances; and scoring the odd worldie doesn't excuse his poor composure in front of goal.
My 'lack of technical ability' opinion of Lingard is more due to his inability, or at least lack of attempt, to beat his man or create opportunities for his teammates. He just hasn't done anywhere near enough to warrant a spot in the starting lineup next season, and I have my doubts of how useful he actually is as a squad player. He stifles our attack too much, and is too often a passenger. I think that is unacceptable for any United player, nevermind an attacker who is meant to be creating and scoring.
Yeah that would be one hell of a player..
The chances his missed last night were huge ones. Indicative of the team and him unfortunately. The one he unleashed wide too, commentary said it was well hit but from I was sat it looked like he should have took some power off it to get some control. Another guilt edge chance really.
Still think he's better in central areas, don't see him as a wide player at all.
Still think he's better in central areas, don't see him as a wide player at all.
Agree with the lack of composure comments. I just think that he shouldnt be starting for us. Good squad player to have, but just doesnt have the end quality I feel.
The stats have him as the player who creates more chances per 90 minutes than anyone else in the team. So he's clearly able to create opportunities for his team-mates. And those stats won't include the way his movement creates space for others to exploit.
Edit: Just checked. I got that wrong. He's second behind Mata. Pogba a close third.
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Martial has had a season to forget but I'd rather have him than Lingard, at the end of chance any day of the week 10/10.
Agreed on the chances missed yesterday. He's definitely better when running at defenders in central areas, not so good on the wings.
3 assists in 38 (25 starts). I'm sorry, but there's no excusing that for a United attacker. I'm not sure where the chances created per 90 minutes stat is from, and if that's true about him being the most efficient in that category, then I'm truly shocked.
Recently I've been trying to focus on Lingard and try to identify what he actually brings to the team but I'm struggling to find any positives other than he effectively runs a lot. He plays the safest pass available almost all of the time and is one of the players I would label as cowardly when trying to break down stubborn defences; always passing the ball backwards or sideways rather than actually trying to initiate.
He must be a superb influence in the dressing room, because how he gets paid 100k pw for his quality on the pitch is mind boggling.
On the contrary - if Lingard was called Jose Lingardez and we signed him 3yrs ago or so from Real Betis or someone for about £15-20million (he's being paid 100k a week remember, now).....would he have as many supporters?
Or would a lot of his supporters be claiming he's an overpaid, average foreign player whose spot in the team should be going to a talented youngster?
Or would a lot of his supporters be claiming he's an overpaid, average foreign player whose spot in the team should be going to a talented youngster?
i wonder how much of the 100k went into making this video
I don't ever see Lingard as someone that will become a player of enough quality to be a regular starter for a team like United but, even today he is a very good option to have as a squad player that can be relied on to give certain level of performances.
For his misses, yes he certainly could have done better for the one Rashford put on a plate for him but, the other 2 were not gimmes. People like Ibra and Pogba who are supposed to be so much superior have missed even more presentable chances this season. Though it would be nice if he were more clinical because in his position the chances don't come that often.
Lingard and like Mata, Mkhi, Rooney are all better when played through the middle. None of them are really a threat out wide that would get even a championship defender quaking in their boots but, the good thing about Lingard over any of those other players he makes the runs, he does have the pace to pose some danger. So until we get a proper wide player that can start out on the right, he is better than starting any of the others in that position.
For his misses, yes he certainly could have done better for the one Rashford put on a plate for him but, the other 2 were not gimmes. People like Ibra and Pogba who are supposed to be so much superior have missed even more presentable chances this season. Though it would be nice if he were more clinical because in his position the chances don't come that often.
Lingard and like Mata, Mkhi, Rooney are all better when played through the middle. None of them are really a threat out wide that would get even a championship defender quaking in their boots but, the good thing about Lingard over any of those other players he makes the runs, he does have the pace to pose some danger. So until we get a proper wide player that can start out on the right, he is better than starting any of the others in that position.
There we go, The same Youtube video that has been posted 5 times this week alone. Bare in mind that video is out of date already. Say's he has only made 20 appearances, he has made double that.
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He runs a lot and can carry out instructions. Great. I question the chance per minute stat there. It doesn't refer to their source as far as I can see. Also, what do they consider as a chance?
Absolutely spot on. The Lingard haters in these pages are pathetic. Conserve your bile, guys! Lingard has just signed a hefty contract, and will be around for a long time to torment you people!
Thats a problem for him, in the reserves and even on the tours all his best performances that i seen he was playing central or from the left. But since getting into the first team Van Gaal and now Mourinho seem to prefer him on the right. He's never going to be an effective right winger in my opinion.
Yeah thats why people don't rate him, must be why so many on here seem to rate our young foreign forward Marcos Rashfordinho.
He better develop more because we will never be able to sell him to another club below our standard on that contract, not even as one of their top players/earners.
We just gave him a new contract so its safe to say he will stay with us for years to come.
It is mad money though for what he is at the minute. You'd be assuming the club think he has another level or else they foresee that being the average wage for England international squad players at top clubs and just got the ball rolling...
either that or his agent has played a total blinder or the club is just throwing money around to make a statement?
Has the 100k been mentioned yet?
He's full of running and is great at creating space for himself, but he is very wasteful and tends to score the unexpected goals, rather the clear cut.
Yep and the fact he has scored 1 league goal this season with 3 assists. Feck I've been to games where Becks equalled that over 90 mins and he played further away from the goal than Lingard.
But @Pogue Mahone composure is part of technique so I'm not buying that. Plus you can't judge him back to under 9s! Since coming into the first team he's had half a dozen good games. No brilliant ones and the rest anonymous to dreadful. Look at Rashford in comparison who is 5-6 years younger.
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