Real big game player. Admittedly I wanted him gone last season but he's surprised me.
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At 23 he scored 18 and the next season he scored 21. So yeah, wheh he was Lingard's age he was quite prolific; certainly not a "twitchy footballer" as you described. Think it's time you backed down and admit that you made a silly comparison and then went on to make stuff up about Aubameyang.
Not at all. It is completely justified. Of course he was a twitchy footballer, and he wasted a bucketload of chances, made a lot of errors, bad concentration, many unnecessary lost balls. He still does, but it became better and better under time. Lingard is a better player then Aubameyang when he was 23.
I loved his performance yesterday. full of energy, constantly on the move, and always available for the ball. But what most impressed me was his confidence. For a young lad from Warrington he just doesnt seemed phased by anything. He kept the Bundersliga player of the year warming his back side on the bench. Is he even aware that his place is under threat?!? Superb Jesse, top marks. AND... he scored a decent goal too 
Last goal for LVG and first for Mourinho. His season is off to a flyer
Last goal for LVG and first for Mourinho. His season is off to a flyerI really don't think that's the case at all. Lingard has a hell of a-lot to prove as he was very erratic last season and he needs to add consistency to his game. I still have no idea why you are comparing the two, I personally can't see any similarities between them or where they were at in their careers at the same age.
I loved his performance yesterday. full of energy, constantly on the move, and always available for the ball. But what most impressed me was his confidence. For a young lad from Warrington he just doesnt seemed phased by anything. He kept the Bundersliga player of the year warming his back side on the bench. Is he even aware that his place is under threat?!? Superb Jesse, top marks. AND... he scored a decent goal too
A lad from Warrington was throwing bricks at my car the other day. We need to knock em down a peg or two.
Hope the car is alright man.
Yeah it's fine. They all missed. Just three little lads throwing shit at cars as they drove by.
Who the feck do you think you're to tell others what they should and shouldn't do? Get your fecking head out of your arse! From the very first comment, you're telling me what I should and shouldn't do, stop acting like you fecking own this place.
It's you who waded into something that didn't even mention anything about you. Did I slap you silly to butt in? No. No one forced you to do anything. Yet you felt entitled to poke your big itching nose into something that didn't tag you.
It's a forum and as long as the mods have no problem, I can leave comment on any thread I want and I can write anything I want. If you don't like it then fecking Ignore it instead of acting like a jerk. If that's not enough, then go and open your own fecking forum.
But don't tell others what they should and shouldn't do.
I really don't understand the people that don't like Lingard. He's not world class and most likely never will be but he's a great player to have in the squad. He's from Manchester and clearly loves the club, works extremely hard, has great movement and quick passing, and as we've seen in the last two games at Wembley is capable of game changing moments as well.
Wait, who are you to tell someone else to take their head out their arse? bang out of order mate. They can have their head where they want
Lingard has good potential. Anyone that watches the youth would know he can do better but some never do so going by his first team performances - they can't be blamed for their initial reactions. However, he's improving all the time and that's good. He just needs to keep up a level of productivity and he will win peoples trust.
Wait, who are you to tell someone else to take their head out their arse? bang out of order mate. They can have their head where they want
Lingard has good potential. Anyone that watches the youth would know he can do better but some never do so going by his first team performances - they can't be blamed for their initial reactions. However, he's improving all the time and that's good. He just needs to keep up a level of productivity and he will win peoples trust.
I salute you sir!
As one who slated Lingard last season, giving credit where credit's due, he played well yesterday. Main criticisms last season was hiding from the play and not running at people, yesterday he made himself available and surged forward and scored as a bonus. Maybe he will benefit from Mourinho's style of management, hope he continues to improve
He's really starting to impress. His last 2 United goals have been special. I just wish he'd stop acting a nob on social media and his celebrations do my tits in but still excited with his progression.
One thing I absolutely love about Lingard is that he never goes hiding when we're in possession. Even if he's having a mare he'll show for the ball, make runs and generally put himself about. His overall passion and commitment is something that won't show up on any stat sheet, but is one I think that him and Rashford bring in a way that nobody else brings to the table and is extremely valuable. You need players that will do what's asked by the manager even if it's not what they hoped for.
Positionally I actually think Lingard is best on the right. He's not consistently productive enough to be the #10 (if he adds more goals + assists then he has a chance), but his link up play on the right, good (not electric) pace and work rate are a good complement for Valencia. I actually think it helps AV a lot when Lingard drifts inside as it gives Valencia a lot of space to run at his defender and opens up the entire wing for him to skin his man for pace.
I don't know if he'll be a starting XI type player, but he should see plenty of playing time given his versatility and attributes.
Positionally I actually think Lingard is best on the right. He's not consistently productive enough to be the #10 (if he adds more goals + assists then he has a chance), but his link up play on the right, good (not electric) pace and work rate are a good complement for Valencia. I actually think it helps AV a lot when Lingard drifts inside as it gives Valencia a lot of space to run at his defender and opens up the entire wing for him to skin his man for pace.
I don't know if he'll be a starting XI type player, but he should see plenty of playing time given his versatility and attributes.
Jesse is a good player and his work rate means he compliments other players well.
He lacks the ability to consistently beat his man and is a bit light-weight but he is improving and is a valuable squad member.
He lacks the ability to consistently beat his man and is a bit light-weight but he is improving and is a valuable squad member.
Yep, only Borussia Dortmund paying a high fee to acquire him at 24. Come on, Aubameyang was one of the best players in the league at 22-24. Also, I hate using examples of some late bloomers (he wasn't even one) to prove that someone else could be a late bloomer too - it's very rare that players become amazing all of a sudden at an advanced age. Yes, it happens but it's usually exception rather than a rule.
Lingard has all the tools to become a good player at United though. He won't be a world beater, he won't win us games on his own too often but he could be a good squad player capable of covering multiple positions who won't complain about being left on the bench. At the minute I'd rather let Mata go than sell Lingard and I definitely rate him much higher than Januzaj.
Yeah but anyhow you were wrong as I pointed out. You said he never gets praise but that was a lie.
Yeah but don't y'know it's fun to make random comparisons that are actually non-existent.
He's better than Young, that's for sure. He's earned the right to stay here as a squad player at the very least.
Lionel Jesse.
Never understood the abuse Lingard gets here.
Love him to bits. He is a good fit for the squad and would love to see him big here.
If he can push on and play like he did against Leicester (ignoring the crazy goal, his overall play was very good anyway), then he'll be a really useful option. Will no doubt improve playing with Ibra/Pogba/and the other quality players we now have.
Messi Lingard.
Lingardinho
That kind of end product is exactly what I've been wanting to see from Lingard. He buzzes about well enough and has tidy link up play in the final third, but if he's to play regularly this season we need some proper numbers. Great start.
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Have to completely agree. Love him as a player but the youth of today, aye.
Yup, most peoples biggest criticism of Lingard was his end product - especially his finishing - was nowhere near good enough at times last season. I know a-lot on here like to make out like everyone is a Lingard 'hater' (cringe) or that he received vile abuse on here last season, but that really isn't the truth. Most on here (logical posters anyway) really only criticised Lingard's productivity, which was absolutely fair game. I have to admit, he looked like a bit of a nothing player when he started playing for us but his improvements have really surprised me. It was hard for any player to break through under LvG with that awful style of football that we played but Lingard came out of it with his head held high. Credit to him for that, as he played far too much for a player just breaking through and he had a-lot of very poor games. He showed that he's obviously a strong character to keep his head down, try his best and just get on with it.
His intelligent runs and propensity to find pockets of space in the box, mean that he will find himself in scoring positions regularly enough and hopefully this season, he can put a-few more of those chances away.
Well no there were comments about him being "Championship level" player, so I'm assuming that's where the hater part comes for. I clearly remember that the was getting dogs abuse in the FA Cup final thread aswell.
Saying he needs to improve his productivity is a very valid criticism, saying he's a Championship level player is downright crazy. You're right though, if he improves his finishing, then he can easily get 10-15 goals. His movement is that GOOD.
Bit harsh, Pogba does the same. Talent should be segregated to their personality tbh. There is nothing wrong with a bit of character exuberance.
His movement is excellent alright. It's definitely one of his strong points. I personally found myself frustrated with him last season plenty of times, as after finding a good position and losing his marker (not as easy skill), he often went on to miss a decent opportunity. I have done a complete 360 when it comes to Lingard as I'm actually excited about what he may become under Mourinho. Under LvG, I found it very hard to find joy in anything that we done and I felt that Lingard breaking through, often became a negative, unfortunately. That was more down to the fact that we were dog shit most of time, but players like Lingard continued to play week-in, week-out, no matter how poorly they played. Lingard certainly wasn't on his own in that respect, obviously, but we are discussing him right now. He had his bright moments like the FA Cup Final goal and his performance against City, being two stand-out moments. But under Fergie, for instance, he would have been gradually eased in (obviously mitigating factors played a part in how much football he ended up playing). I feel under Mourinho, he will become a vital squad player and hopefully with the sheer amount of games we have this season, he can notch up his fair share of goals.
I really don't know if people calling him a Championship player means that they were / are 'haters'. I mean, we were incredibly frustrating to watch last season and I would bet, that bar maybe 2/3 favourites, most of our players got dogs abuse on here last season. Last season was extremely frustrating and Lingard should / would have been eased in under different circumstances. The problem was that he played far too much and had his fair share of poor games, so naturally people took their frustrations out on him, as I'm sure they did with plenty of others. I wouldn't take much notice what people said about our players last season as I would imagine that the majority of it was reactionary based on the awful situation that we found ourselves in.
People coming in here anytime he plays well saying such things as erm 'take that haters' serves no purpose whatsoever, especially given that plenty of his critics have posted positive things about him in here already this season. I can't see Lingard being a divisive player anymore; in fact, under Mourinho, I feel he will be a valued squad player that's appreciated by the majority of our fan base. I know that him not being a divisive player anymore, will come as a-bit of a blow for the 'take that haters' crowd.
Aye, I personally couldn't care less about his celebrations and I have little interest in social media, so I have no idea what he does be saying on there. However, I have seen Sturridge lambasted on here over his celebrations, so maybe it's not everyone's cup of tea; not sure it's applicable just to Lingard or has any relevance to how people view him as a player.
Agreed. Not to mention that a unique celebration (I can remember since at least the David Villa arrow one) has always been a trademark of a smart goal scorer. An astute professional would do one to brand himself and make money from it. E.g the dab from Pogba could be what puts him marginally ahead of the next FIFA Cover over certain other players, and he'd receive shit loads of money from it.
Not to mention Bale's shit love heart nonsense that he tried to / or else did copyright. Does he even still do that?
He still has the same flaws though and that is why I dont see him as a regular starter. Let's see if he finally can make the step up but he should surely stay in the squad
The way he acted on that bus vs West Ham was embarrassing and shouldn't have put it anywhere near social media and I find him cringey.
It's something I dislike about him but certainly wouldn't hold it against him in terms of his footballing ability. He's either good or he isn't all the rest of it is just a bonus.
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