[jymufc20]

I think the boy jese will really kick on this season, with a competent manager and he's best mate pogback.

I remember him in the academy and summer tours of fergies last season or two and always thought he could make it.

 

[Robbie Boy]

some people tend to change their mind so quickly based on one game only. Lingard has made those intelligent runs since last season. It's nothing new to people who actually watched him last season.

Aye, and look back at my posts last year and I have always acknowledged that. The problem, for me, has always been his consistency and end product.

He also looked dog shit plenty of times last season and went through a spell where he constantly gave the ball away and failed to make any impact whatsoever. I feel he's still definitely overrated by a select few on here who are extremely defensive about him. Just like any player, he deserves praise where it's due and criticism where it's due.

I certainly haven't changed my opinion, in that I still only think he will be a squad player and long term, I have no idea how long he will remain here. However, it's clear that Mourinho rates him and that's fine by me. Mourinho, I hope, will work with him and improve his overall game, which is in need of improvement. He's certainly not the brilliant player that some on here claim - with you being one - but he has the potential to be a good option if he can improve certain aspects of his game. At the start of last season I though he was rubbish and I have no problem saying that. It's there for everyone to see, but I also changed my opinion and said he's a decent squad player. I guess, the thing that bothers me more than anything when it comes to Lingard is the 'take that haters' crew and the ones that blindly defend him. Do I think he's brilliant? Far from it. But if Mourninho is willing to give him a chance, then so am I. He played well on Sunday which impressed me. You're not some super fan because you blindly defended him last season, even when he played poor. I would rather be honest about players performances and not make stuff up.

Coming into a thread without knowing any facts about what is being spoken about is slightly odd. I mean, you will find plenty of post where I praised his movement last season. It was literally the only positive that he had going for him at one point, ffs. He went through a very poor spell last season and still kept his place, which I guess irked people, including myself. I was probably harsh on him at times last season but I also feel people take serious offence when Lingard is criticised; when plenty of the criticism was valid. No need for revisionism either, he was poor last season just as often as he was good. He was also plainly average too. But last season was a mess of a season and plenty of players on here, came in for serious criticism. I guess people found it frustrating that underperforming players kept playing, no matter what. That was a-lot down to poor management, as much as anything.

Enjoy it now Mike. I mean we have just signed Pogba, ffs. Let people give players like Lingard a chance under new management and see what happens, eh. No need to be so defensive about the lad either, if he has a stinker, don't be afraid to say it.

 

[Escobar]

He was not a player I rated highly in the past but under Jose, he could really reach another level and develop an end product! The arrival of Poggers might also gave him a mental boost, too

 

[NotQuiteManc]

Bit harsh, Pogba does the same. Talent should be segregated to their personality tbh. There is nothing wrong with a bit of character exuberance.

Yeah nothing wrong with innocent fun. Or perhaps people rather the players or club associated with captured on camera fun in foreign land type of fun?

Credit to Ranieri for turning the club around in such swift manner.

 

[Robbie Boy]

He was not a player I rated highly in the past but under Jose, he could really reach another level and develop an end product! The arrival of Poggers might also gave him a mental boost, too

Nope. Unless you said he was amazing last season (which of course he wasn't), you're not allowed to now give him a chance under new circumstances / a new manager. Hater....

 

[Black Adder]

If he can sort out his finishing then things could get interesting since he's very often in the right place because of his smart movement. Remember match against Watford when he got 2 great chances but missed them both due to poor finishing.

IMO he's squad player atm, but with proper managment he could elevate himself onto another level, hope Jose manages to do just that with Jesse!

 

[Robbie Boy]

If he can sort out his finishing then things could get interesting since he's very often in the right place because of his smart movement. Remember match against Watford when he got 2 great chances but missed them both due to poor finishing.

IMO he's squad player atm, but with proper managment he could elevate himself onto another level, hope Jose manages to do just that with Jesse!

Aye, that was the issue last season. He definitely had a poor spell last season but when he was playing a-bit better, he was often finding these pockets of space but it was his finishing that was letting him down.

I'm actually excited to see what Mourinho can do with Lingard. I genuinely think he took a player like Lampards' game to a whole new level during his first spell at Chelsea so I hope that he can work well with Lingard, too. Excited and Lingard in the one sentence, last season I never would have thought I would be typing that

 

[In Rainbows]

Funny thing is that Lingard's finishing was quite good at youth level. Lingard is and will remain good at what he does. He has good movement to score goals, and works hard. He's not a guy that can dribble past players regularly, provide amazing assists, nor does he have amazing technique. If you guys are expecting him to somehow reach another level through those areas, then I'm afraid you'll be disappointed.

If he can improve on what he already does well at I think he can be a starter for years. However, I still think he'll be a squad player, which is perfectly fine.

 

[MounchesterUtd]

Last goal of LVG's reign, first goal of the Mou era. The Dab King

 

[carlosp]

Jesse Lingard brimming with confidence
Jesse Lingard is brimming with confidence after scoring goals in successive competitive games for Manchester United at Wembley.

The 23-year-old hit a marvellous solo strike during Sunday's 2-1 win over Leicester City in the Community Shield to add to his memorable volley in the FA Cup triumph against Crystal Palace by the same scoreline.

It means the homegrown product is only the fifth player to score in more than one game at Wembley for United in the same calendar year, after Norman Whiteside (1983), Bryan Robson (1983), Mark Hughes (1994) and Eric Cantona (1996).

After cementing his place in the first-team squad last term, the Warrington-born forward was clear on what has been the key for him over this period during an exclusive interview with the new edition of Inside United, the official club magazine, which has just gone on sale.

When asked to define the biggest thing he learned about himself over the last year, he replied: "I think confidence. After a few games, if you’re not scoring, your confidence can drop a bit but the players around me were great at helping me keeping that confidence up. To be able to come on and make a difference in the FA Cup final was very special.

"I think it’s the confidence thing again," he added, when answering which facet of his game has improved the most. "There was always that aura about Old Trafford and playing in front of the fans in a massive stadium, which I used to think about.

"As a younger player, your first few games are always going to be nervy but my confidence grew the more I played there."

Lingard is also very clear on his ambitions for the 2016/17 season as he develops the taste for more silverware.

"We want to be in the Champions League, of course, but our focus is on the title," he explained. "My aim is to score over 10 goals and win at least two trophies. That would be a good season!"

 

[carlosp]

He was not a player I rated highly in the past but under Jose, he could really reach another level and develop an end product! The arrival of Poggers might also gave him a mental boost, too

My only issue with Jesse is that he has not grown. Pogba has actually grown since he left United, and he was already tall before he left United.

Jesse need another few inches.

 

[The Mitcher]

My only issue with Jesse is that he has not grown. Pogba has actually grown since he left United, and he was already tall before he left United.

Jesse need another few inches.

He's the same height as Rooney, if anything he just needs to get more strength.

 

[Kill 'em all]

I can't wait for Pogba and Lingard to do all sorts of dance routines together when we score goals.

 

[Brightonian]

It's definitely time for all of us (myself included) to stop talking about him as a 'useful not special' sort of player. Two absolute worldies scored in successive Wembley outings (which, as the above article shows, puts him in company which is exclusively big-game star quality). Those are the goals of a special player with x-factor. Add that to what we already know about him - his technical ability, his energy, his positivity, his intelligence - and I don't see why he shouldn't have just as much of a right to try and claim a starting spot as anyone else. Sure, he has things he needs to do to get that spot, chiefly a more reliable end product, but so does everyone else who wants it.

 

[MyOnlySolskjaer]

It's definitely time for all of us (myself included) to stop talking about him as a 'useful not special' sort of player. Two absolute worldies scored in successive Wembley outings (which, as the above article shows, puts him in company which is exclusively big-game star quality). Those are the goals of a special player with x-factor. Add that to what we already know about him - his technical ability, his energy, his positivity, his intelligence - and I don't see why he shouldn't have just as much of a right to try and claim a starting spot as anyone else. Sure, he has things he needs to do to get that spot, chiefly a more reliable end product, but so does everyone else who wants it.

His goal against Chelsea was unreal too. He's got some serious goal-scoring ability in his locker. Hopefully, kicks on this season.

 

[MounchesterUtd]

His goal against Chelsea was unreal too. He's got some serious goal-scoring ability in his locker. Hopefully, kicks on this season.

The Dab King only scores beautiful goals

I don't understand why that wasn't nominated for goal of the season last year. What a cross by CBJ too.

 

[Šjor Bepo]

I always loved this goal, still my favorite from Jesse

 

[ChaddyP]

Is he in the 23 mourinho talked about then? I would find that quite surprising, not because he doesn't deserve it but because of players like young or jones' seniority and they don't seem to be in there, I really didn't expect jesse to still be a regular this season, but maybe he has shown his talent in training and can be an important player for us this season.

jones young and Jesse are all part of the 23 outfielders named in the squad so far.

 

[m1y2]

I dont care if people think he's more of a squad player or someone who should go. He's performed so far and he's been better than anyone in his position, arguably his weaker one as well so I am enjoying him playing in the team. think he's gonna start against bmouth and rightly so

 

[LouisDanGaal]

jones young and Jesse are all part of the 23 outfielders named in the squad so far.

Happy days, I don't know exactly who the 23 are I was just basing it off the charity shield team. Weird to see you outside of the Pogba thread!

 

[ChaddyP]

Happy days, I don't know exactly who the 23 are I was just basing it off the charity shield team. Weird to see you outside of the Pogba thread!

basically the 23 are everyone but Januzaj, and Bastian

 

[MyOnlySolskjaer]

 

[dannyrhinos89]

Martial honestly should be dropped until he gets his head straight, play lingaard on the left against Southampton if he's ready.

Also it should free up mhkhitaryan to play on the right then.

 

[Offside]

Martial honestly should be dropped until he gets his head straight, play lingaard on the left against Southampton if he's ready.

Also it should free up mhkhitaryan to play on the right then.

Why? He was really good in the second half last week.

 

[bosnian_red]

Martial honestly should be dropped until he gets his head straight, play lingaard on the left against Southampton if he's ready.

Also it should free up mhkhitaryan to play on the right then.

Dropped on the back of a good performance, makes sense

 

[SwansonsTache]

Martial honestly should be dropped until he gets his head straight, play lingaard on the left against Southampton if he's ready.

Also it should free up mhkhitaryan to play on the right then.

Hah.

Martial should be played to get his head straight. Also the fact that he managed two assists and in huge periods of the second half was our most dangerous outlet, when he is supposedly in a bad patch of form, speaks volumes.

Play the Mart.

 

[dannyrhinos89]

Why? He was really good in the second half last week.

You guys must've been watching a different game, martial was by far our worse player against Bournemouth (apart from Rooney) just give him a week off to get himself sorted a little better. If Jesse isn't ready to play as the tweet says then just do a straight swap, martial bench mkhitaryan on the left.

 

[Shamwow]

I think Lingard should be a substitute for the next game, but I would really like to see him get some minutes and see if he can keep some momentum with his form.

 

[Offside]

You guys must've been watching a different game, martial was by far our worse player against Bournemouth (apart from Rooney) just give him a week off to get himself sorted a little better. If Jesse isn't ready to play as the tweet says then just do a straight swap, martial bench mkhitaryan on the left.

He clearly wasn't. He was positive and quick, caused them problems all the second half.

 

[Loublaze]

You guys must've been watching a different game, martial was by far our worse player against Bournemouth (apart from Rooney) just give him a week off to get himself sorted a little better. If Jesse isn't ready to play as the tweet says then just do a straight swap, martial bench mkhitaryan on the left.

He was one of our best players actually, without being close to his own high standards

 

[pseudo_canadian]

You guys must've been watching a different game, martial was by far our worse player against Bournemouth (apart from Rooney) just give him a week off to get himself sorted a little better. If Jesse isn't ready to play as the tweet says then just do a straight swap, martial bench mkhitaryan on the left.

Did you black out during the second half? He played great and was overall one of the better players all day.

Ran at their defenders at every chance with inside runs and created some good chances, along with assisting Zlatan's goal.

 

[Amadaeus]

Glad he is back, our front four looks like zombies when he is not in the team.

 

[Daniel_M7]

You can't hardly call the pass to Zlatan's goal an assist even if it says so in FPL.

 

[shamans]

Hah.

Martial should be played to get his head straight. Also the fact that he managed two assists and in huge periods of the second half was our most dangerous outlet, when he is supposedly in a bad patch of form, speaks volumes.

Play the Mart.

We have enough attacking options. I'd be in favor of dropping him for a game so he can rejuvenate himself. Martial has a higher ceiling than any of our current attacking players but a kick up his backside might be what he needs. No player should be undropable.

 

[m1y2]

if he's fit start him over Mata, not as he deserved start after his last performance, wouldnt mind if Micky gets a game and Jesse comes on for him, could be nice to see him and Pogs coming on together dab brothers

 

[3KDré]

Should play on the right with Mkhi in the hole.

 

[dannyrhinos89]

Did you black out during the second half? He played great and was overall one of the better players all day.

Ran at their defenders at every chance with inside runs and created some good chances, along with assisting Zlatan's goal.

How can it be considered an assist when Zlatan is 30 yards away from goal, Ibra did all the work, also not sure if he got an assist for the Rooney goal on his failure shot but again you can't call a scuffed shot an assist.

The martial I saw was none existent in the first half and very careless and wasteful pretty much all game.

I'm not calling for him to be dropped or anything but one game on the bench wouldn't harm anyone plus we'd finally get to see mkhitaryan in action properly.

 

[Walters_19_MuFc]

Martial honestly should be dropped until he gets his head straight, play lingaard on the left against Southampton if he's ready.

Also it should free up mhkhitaryan to play on the right then.

I don't agree, but it's so good that we can finally say this, knowing we have players in place to step in. Our squad is looking so strong now.

Last season, I can imagine you would have never have said that, even if Martial was playing poorly.

 

[Walters_19_MuFc]

Is he back for this game?

 

[Globule]

How can it be considered an assist when Zlatan is 30 yards away from goal, Ibra did all the work, also not sure if he got an assist for the Rooney goal on his failure shot but again you can't call a scuffed shot an assist.

The martial I saw was none existent in the first half and very careless and wasteful pretty much all game.

I'm not calling for him to be dropped or anything but one game on the bench wouldn't harm anyone plus we'd finally get to see mkhitaryan in action properly.

I wouldn't personally class either of them assists (though fortunately for my fantasy team the PL did).
He hasn't got going so far, but I'm not overly concerned at this point.