He'd be a substantial upgrade over Rooney and he actually knows where the back of the net is. And its a free transfer.
Some of you are impossible to please.
Some of you are impossible to please.
Jermain Defoe on a free transfer
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Yes, there's a place for him in a 60 game season; easy cup games, injury crisis, last 10 minutes for a goal
My brain says yes because of the above, but my heart says no
Wouldn't have minded having him this season to come on and bag some of those chances created.
Defoe does have an eye for goal but even as an impact sub I think we should be aiming higher.
Don't think he'd be the perfect signing, but I can't really understand some of the reactions on here. He'd be free, scores more goals than most of our team combined, for Sunderland (who don't create better chances than us)... fwiw he'd more than replace Rooney, and wouldn't hinder the development of our young strikers. If Rashford is going to be the main man next year, I probably prefer we used Martial as backup CF and bought someone ridiculously excellent (Griezmann/Neymar/Bale) to play with him. Martial really hasn't done it on the left, and looks happier through the middle.
That's basically it:
Griezmann, Neymar, or Bale > Defoe
but...
Defoe > Rooney
That's basically it:
Griezmann, Neymar, or Bale > Defoe
but...
Defoe > Rooney
Is this picture where the "thinks Balotelli and Pogba look the same" tagline for someone on the forum came from?Balotelli is available for free this summer...
15 goals in 22 league games this season for Nice
Time to call Raiola again?
He did?
Yup.
Defoe? What the actual f. Joshua King would be a way better signing
I'd take him over Rooney...
Member when we laughed at Pool for signing Rickie Lambert?
Christ on a bike.
Christ on a bike.
Was hoping for a bit more information from you, but it's my own fault.
Hopefully it means he's closely monitoring that Nice team.
Was hoping for a bit more information from you, but it's my own fault.
Hopefully it means he's closely monitoring that Nice team.
Sorry mate I don't have the link for it but I've definitely read it somewhere, I know that much. I'm sure Jose knows exactly what he needs. I'm not worried about our summer at all.
I think so, too. And no problem.
He has actually around the same goals from open play as Negredo.
You can probably snatch Negredo for free from Valencia, they'd be happy to get rid of his wages, and then you have a 4 year younger version of Defoe, yay
I don't think he'd come anyway, surely wants to play football whilst he still can even MLS rather than be a bench warmer
You can't possibly compare Rickie Lambert and Defoe.
Fair play if you wouldn't want him at the club but he knows where the net is.
If he played 10-15 games with only a pair of starts and only scored 3-4 goals he's an asset to our squad. I'd back him to do better than that across a 50-60 game season.
We hopefully lose Rooney this year. Ibra may or may not stay or even get fit again. That leaves us without a single proven centre forward. I'd be delighted to see us sign a world class one. Really happy if Rashford is trusted, and lives up to his billing. But we'd still be short of cover.
Probably true. The guy loves football and loves scoring goals. I also think he'll back himself to play 30+ games a season again.
No, and scoring for Sunderland isn't the same as scoring for us.
Not many teams park the bus for Sunderland. Defoe would've much less space to work with.
He was never good enough, he's certainly not good enough now.
We don't need to scrap the bottom of the barrel for freebies. We are Manchester United!
Not many teams park the bus for Sunderland. Defoe would've much less space to work with.
He was never good enough, he's certainly not good enough now.
We don't need to scrap the bottom of the barrel for freebies. We are Manchester United!
Does he have a glossy brochure?
If so.... Sign sign sign
If so.... Sign sign sign
I think everyone going yay is thinking along those lines.
The key difference is one would be free and one would cost £30m (not that he's worth anywhere near that). But they're both average Premier League strikers who've scored exactly the same amount of goals this season. Both aren't good enough to start for us, mind, and only one would be happy to come off the bench every now and again and it wouldn't be King. He's not the ideal signing by any stretch of the imagination but it's not exactly like he's utter shite either.
I kinda wish we got him in January for a short term 6 month contract or whatever.
I'd rather rashford was back up for the main man next year whoever that may be then Martial so we have no need for Rooney or retiring strikers.
It's funny. 2 seasons ago, apparently Ronaldo wasn't good enough for MUFC, even though he was scoring more goals than our entire team combined!
I think a lot of MUFC fans seem to believe we are better than we are.
I will say this: our attack is abysmal/atrocious and Defoe is a fox in the box....which happens to be exactly what we need. Martial, Rashford, Mata - their finishing is poor. Scoring 7 league goals per season for a MUFC attacker is embarrassing.
Defoe is a better finisher than all our current attackers. If he plays (when others are tired or injured), he will score goals. There is no doubt about that.
On a 1 year deal, free transfer and reasonable wages, I would take him in the team. if it works out, then great. If it fails, he will be gone in a year, so it doesn't make much difference.
Obviously, if we had Suarez, Messi and Neymar in our team, adding Defoe would be silly, but given that ALL our attackers are very poor finishers, to bring in a top quality finisher, with EPL experience would be an logical decision.
I think a lot of MUFC fans seem to believe we are better than we are.
I will say this: our attack is abysmal/atrocious and Defoe is a fox in the box....which happens to be exactly what we need. Martial, Rashford, Mata - their finishing is poor. Scoring 7 league goals per season for a MUFC attacker is embarrassing.
Defoe is a better finisher than all our current attackers. If he plays (when others are tired or injured), he will score goals. There is no doubt about that.
On a 1 year deal, free transfer and reasonable wages, I would take him in the team. if it works out, then great. If it fails, he will be gone in a year, so it doesn't make much difference.
Obviously, if we had Suarez, Messi and Neymar in our team, adding Defoe would be silly, but given that ALL our attackers are very poor finishers, to bring in a top quality finisher, with EPL experience would be an logical decision.
That isn't the bar, would you take him over rashford or Zlatan? If the answer is no then move to a higher calibre of player
So, please give me your logical debate/argument against Defoe.
Saying "no", without logical reasoning is as silly as saying, "Falcao/Rooney to score 3!"
'Jermain Defoe on a free transfer'>'Ruud Gullit sitting on a shed'.
The chance Rooney wasted yesterday, Defoe scores that.
People are acting like we need to buy Gabriel Batistuta to be successful. No, we are missing f'n easy chances. A competent striker would have us chasing the title. I'd happily take Defoe while Rashford develops.
People are acting like we need to buy Gabriel Batistuta to be successful. No, we are missing f'n easy chances. A competent striker would have us chasing the title. I'd happily take Defoe while Rashford develops.
What are you on about? Rooney is gone, Defoe is 10x the player Rooney is right now it's undeniable, I can't believe you're actually comparing Rooney in his current state to Defoe in his. He scored 15 goals for freaking Sunderland, that's more than any of our players bar Zlatan, which is why it's an upgrade to our goalscoring now.
Rooney is on wild wages, Defoe would cost literally a third of what Rooney does and be more productive, honestly did you even think about your post when you were typing it? I don't mean to be rude but I can't take you seriously at all.
As a backup striker that does not expect to be played? Hell yes!
Yes, but only as a back-up to Rashford if Zlatan goes elsewhere.
Lukaku has the most goals in the league. He would be massive for us for the next 10 years or so.
Griezmann, I can see no reason why we cant get both.
But some people have insanely low standards as United fans. Defoe, Pickford, Michael Keane... Feck me. We are supposed to be the biggest club in England and yet some people want us to sign relegation battling dross.
Amen brother. I wasn't even contemplating Rooney when I said if Zlatan stays or goes, so if Rooney is sold and Defoe is happy to replace him, its a no brainer.
Infact I would love it, absolutely love it if Rooney was just straight up swapped with Defoe. Moyes would be deluded enough to want him which would be fitting since he played his part in given Rooney the crazy bumper deal.
Fernando Llorente is the one I want as back up. The likes of Mbappé, Griezmann we have been linked with, or the existing ones we have in Rashford and Martial is a set missing a traditional target man. Llorente, if Swansea go down, could probably be picked up for £15m or so, and would be a fantastic option to add variety to the front line. Him and Mbappé or him and Griezman would be great.
Defoe has only scored 9 goals from open play and barely scored in the second half of the season so I don't really think there's all that much between current state Defoe and current state Rooney. Rooney also has barely played up front and has had to settle with just being another cog in the machine rather than have the team built to get the best out of him like Sunderland do with Defoe. Put Rooney in a team that's built to get the best out of him and where he is starting up front every week and taking all penalties and I'd expect him to have double figures for the season, while also adding more to the team than Defoe in terms of assists and set pieces. He has 7 as it is for us while very rarely playing up front. That's not even to mention that it's likely Defoe's productivity would lessen as he goes from starting every game to playing 1 in 3 or 4.
I agree the difference in wages would be huge which is why I said most of those things applied to Rooney only
This season we started with Zlatan(main striker), Rooney(second striker) and Rashford(Backup). Due to Rooney's failure we ended up with 433 as our main tactics. The season was a failure mainly due to goalscoring even with Zlatan's 28 goals.
We have to buy 2 good strikers. One main and a second striker and use Rashford as a backup.
Both Rashford and Defoe are main strikers, not second strikers. If we buy Defoe, it means Rashford(Main striker), New Second Striker and Defoe(Backup). We would struggle to make up the 28 goals of Zlatan. The season will again be a failure due to goalscoring as it wouldn't better our current season.
We are making progress this season but some are not understanding that we are only a second tier team compared to top teams and are pretty lower table side when it comes to away games against good sides. We are playing midtable average joes in Europa league. Next season to play against top sides in Europe(If we qualify), we need better quality.
We have to buy 2 good strikers. One main and a second striker and use Rashford as a backup.
Both Rashford and Defoe are main strikers, not second strikers. If we buy Defoe, it means Rashford(Main striker), New Second Striker and Defoe(Backup). We would struggle to make up the 28 goals of Zlatan. The season will again be a failure due to goalscoring as it wouldn't better our current season.
We are making progress this season but some are not understanding that we are only a second tier team compared to top teams and are pretty lower table side when it comes to away games against good sides. We are playing midtable average joes in Europa league. Next season to play against top sides in Europe(If we qualify), we need better quality.
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