Javier Pastore

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wr8_utd said:
Yes same here. After the Rooney saga I've given up on player loyalty anyway so lets use him and dump him (before he dumps us) ;)
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Still doubt we'll get him though.
 
Devil may care said:
It just seems an awful lot of money to spend and no t resolve anything. As for young, I'd prefer we promote Cleverley to play as the back up left sider.
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I think the signing of Young would resolve one problem for us - namely that if Nani or Valencia are injured we don't have the option of two attacking wingers who have pace and the ability to run at the opposition fullback.

Rodwell would be worth buying IMO due to his potential and the fact that he could be reaching his potential when carrick/fletch are past their peak.

We'd still need someone else as well IMO, don't really mind who!
 
Devils Advocate said:
I think the signing of Young would resolve one problem for us - namely that if Nani or Valencia are injured we don't have the option of two attacking wingers who have pace and the ability to run at the opposition fullback.

Rodwell would be worth buying IMO due to his potential and the fact that he could be reaching his potential when carrick/fletch are past their peak.

We'd still need someone else as well IMO, don't really mind who!
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The thing with our squad it doesn't need much to improve.. Aslong as we sort out the midfield department i.e. like a Rodwell with a Pastore then we pretty much heavy weight contenders world wide. Young would also be a valuable assit to our squad to have along with the kids.
 
Point Prunier said:
Is this your yard stick for potential United transfers?

Pastore at whatever price would be a bargain!
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At whatever price? Ummmm... I wouldn't pay over 25 million from him frankly, not yet anyway.
 
Name Changed said:
Pastore wouldn't fix our midfield. Who would he play with anyway? Fletcher? Doubt it. Anderson, too attacking. Carrick? I fecking hope not. I think if we bought Pastore, we'd still need another midfielder anyway. 30-40m is a hell of a lot of money.

I think he'd be excellent in a 4-3-3. He could work well with Anderson/Carrick/Fletcher in a 4-4-2 against the weaker sides. But the big games is what would worry me. I don't think we have a player who could compliment him perfectly in a 4-4-2.
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Since when was 4-4-2 our go to formation in big games?

We've seen it a little more often recently because presently we don’t have enough of a threat coming from midfield; so we compensate with an extra striker.

But its quite obvious Fergie prefers three in the middle for the big games and even now; when its not necessarily playing to our strengths - he still uses it.

For me 4-3-3/4-5-1 is a far more successful formation than 4-4-2. With Pastore we could revert back perfectly. In fact I could see a slight tweak to the team with us lining up something like this:

....Fletcher/Anderson......Carrick/Scholes.....

.........................Pastore........................

.......Valencia..............................Nani.....

..........................Rooney.......................
 
Pastore and Scholes playing together in a 3 man midfield should simply be devastating for the opposition.
 
Lynk said:
At whatever price? Ummmm... I wouldn't pay over 25 million from him frankly, not yet anyway.
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Wouldn't pay over £25m?

The moment he moves to anyone of the big clubs in Europe he becomes a £50million player without even kicking a ball.

From there his value could come down, but more likely it would go up.

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Eitherway, imo he's worth more than £25m already. A player of his ability in a top team is frightening. He's a superb talent. One of the most exciting players in europe already,
 
Point Prunier said:
Since when was 4-4-2 our go to formation in big games?

We've seen it a little more often recently because presently we don’t have enough of a threat coming from midfield; so we compensate with an extra striker.

But its quite obvious Fergie prefers three in the middle for the big games and even now; when its not necessarily playing to our strengths - he still uses it.

For me 4-3-3/4-5-1 is a far more successful formation than 4-4-2. With Pastore we could revert back perfectly. In fact I could see a slight tweak to the team with us lining up something like this:

....Fletcher/Anderson......Carrick/Scholes.....

.........................Pastore........................

.......Valencia..............................Nani.....

..........................Rooney.......................
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With Carrick and Fletcher behind pastore that has some fantastic balance, width, ball hassling and obviously our fullbacks able to overlap it has a very fluid nature.

Also if we need to move to 4-4-2, Pastore can play either wing although obviously not like a true wing. Versatility is a big plus.
 
Have no idea if the reports are true, but he is a lovely player to watch. For over 6ft he is a very graceful mover and obviously knows how to score. He was very quiet at the World Cup - I was watching him closely because of all the hype but he didn't really have time to show much.

I disagree with some comments about avoiding Argentinians, they shouldn't all be compared with United's previous Argentinians.

I'd be delighted to see the likes of Pastore and Rodwell at Old Trafford, they are very good young players NOW unlike, say, Obertan and Bebe.
 
Devils Advocate said:
I think the signing of Young would resolve one problem for us - namely that if Nani or Valencia are injured we don't have the option of two attacking wingers who have pace and the ability to run at the opposition fullback.

Rodwell would be worth buying IMO due to his potential and the fact that he could be reaching his potential when carrick/fletch are past their peak.

We'd still need someone else as well IMO, don't really mind who!
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I suppose that point has merit but Park and Cleverley could provide cover, if we are going for another winger I'd prefer we aim higher like Sanchez.

I'd hope Rodwell would develop quicker than that, I really rate him I just feel we need two ready to go midfielders not more young projects.
 
Pastore would be amazing if the reports are true. I would prefer Jovetic myself if he could make a full return from his knee injury as he would more likely stay longerm. I expect Man City to go after every top that Fergie shows an interest in so I can see them making a bid for Pastore come the summer if we are serious about him!

Tribalfootball picked this up from a Spanish source!
Barcelona struggle to match Man Utd spending power for Pastore | Premiership News | tribalfootball.com
Manchester United are ahead of Barcelona in the race for Palermo star Javier Pastore.

United are reported to be close to agreeing a €40million (£34m), four-year deal for the 21-year-old Argentina international.

Barca are also chasing Pastore, but Radio Sucesos reported on Thursday the Spanish giants have refused to meet Palermo's price tag.

And that has paved the way for the Red Devils to swoop, with Pastore's agent Marcello Simonean understood to be in England negotiating the details of a potential deal.

Pastore has fired in 10 Serie A goals this season for Palermo, who have refused to comment on speculation surrounding his future.
 
Wish people would give up on this can't play in a 4-4-2 formation nonsense, this lad will become one of the best players in the world and has more than enough ability to play anywhere across the midfield or attack.
 
gambit28 said:
He's also said that he dreams of playing for Barcelona and they're his type of team more than Manchester.
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He also said he doesn't want to go and sit on their benches too, that' why he has been turning certain sides down. I'm certain that rules them out right now.


It's the same reason he turned us down 2 season's ago. This time I believe if we go for him he would be more willing. I can' see who we have who would bench him. The only worry is we might become a stepping stone to Spain.
 
Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber said:
He also said he doesn't want to go and sit on their benches too, that' why he has been turning certain sides down. I'm certain that rules them out right now.


It's the same reason he turned us down 2 season's ago. This time I believe if we go for him he would be more willing. I can' see who we have who would bench him. The only worry is we might become a stepping stone to Spain.
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The stepping stone to Spain thing doesn't worry me anymore, I'd happily use and abuse him for a few seasons and sell him on to one of their giants for double the fee we signed him for.
 
Did he really turn us down a few years ago?

If this is the case, then I would not dismiss these reports off the bat. We all know once Fergie sets his mind on a player he usually doesn't stop until he gets his man.
 
It's quite rare that we go for these 'Attacking midfielder' sort of players isn't it. Anderson is the exception and he's had a tough time finding his best position/role. On the plus side he's build like an Ox so I expect him to do fine.
 
been looking at some reports saying Barca have secured first option on him.
 
FranklyVulgar said:
Doubt he'll end up at United. Would be great if he did but 40mil? unproven in the prem? not quite one of the best in the world yet?

Seems far fetched for me.
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Yeah. I can't ever see us spending £30mil + on an Argentinian midfielder whose never played in the Prem.

Would never happen in a million years. Unbelievably far fetched.
 
towcester_red said:
Served us well then didnt it...
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I didn't say I personally agreed with it, I just said we played it. If you look at the matchday thread, the amount of posters who were excited about our lineup against Liverpool that were ecstatic about it was unbelievable. One poster even said he had never been more excited about a starting XI.

I'd suggest that a lot of these posters don't know that much about football. Personally I feared the worst and expected Liverpool to cut through us with a knife. The formation might have worked had the right personnel being picked.

Anyway, the fact is we played 4-4-2 in our last 2 big games, which negates the theory that we simply don't play 4-4-2.
 
I don't see why the fee is so far-fetched. I can see certain clubs paying that for him.
 
sincher said:
I don't see why the fee is so far-fetched. I can see certain clubs paying that for him.
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Yes. But most of them he wont want to move to, for he has said repeatedly he is not moving to a club that will offer the bench to him on the regular. Also Palermo are not that rich. The proposed fee is there to deter people and help them keep him if no one is brave enough to try for him. for he is very happy there. Think how Sevilla sold Reyes. It'd doubtful Pastore will really be sold for 40m.
 
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