How good is Pastore? How reliable is Goal dot com?
Javier Pastore
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Very good. Not very.
Because our midfield have been our weak point for two years now.
And all of that midfield, aside from Scholes, have had contracts extended, which means Fergie thinks they are good enough. I agree we need a bit of freshness in the midfield, but I can't see us buying him.
Which is irrelevant. Since when has players signing contracts meant that we don't require anyone in that position? You can add players to the existing lot you know.
If he can't be used in a 4-4-2, then we won't buy him.
Yes.
Hargreaves is off, Scholes will be used cautiously, and I feel that Fletcher and Carrick really need a little bit of competition.
Palermo play tomorrow and it's on espn. Espn is free this weekend, so we can all watch him at no cost at all.
Yup. And if anything there are two kinds of midfielders. Our choice of who falls into which box may differ, but there are support midfielders and midfielders who run the show. The former do a certain job well, while the latter have the personality and ability to impose themselves on games and take control of them. We have one from the latter type and that man is 35. Anderson can be that guy quite clearly but he is only in patches (it doesn't mean he doesn't perform well of course) and he gets injured quite a bit.
Of course I don't mean that a slight on Fletcher and Carrick. They too are very important but the above paragraph just highlights the importance of bringing in someone new.
My guess Fergie expected Anderson to have already established himself as the man pulling the strings in midfield for us, and it's his gradual development (normal for most footballers who aren't Rooney, Ronaldo etc) and injuries that is going to force us to bring in someone.
The Chief got there first and explained it better than I would have anyway.
he is a silva type player, maybe mroe of a goalscorer though. Signing thsi player would pretty much dicate a 4 2 3 1 system.
he is very poor defensivley. No way he can play in a 2 man midfield. maybe he could be placed on the left. Not sure about this but it would be the only position he could fill in such a system
he is very poor defensivley. No way he can play in a 2 man midfield. maybe he could be placed on the left. Not sure about this but it would be the only position he could fill in such a system
Would be a dream signing but it's goal.com 
There is absolutely no chance though that we won't strengthen our midfield despite Carrick and Fletch signing new deals this week.
There is absolutely no chance though that we won't strengthen our midfield despite Carrick and Fletch signing new deals this week.
Would be a dream signing but it's goal.com
There is absolutely no chance though that we won't strengthen our midfield despite Carrick and Fletch signing new deals this week.
I thought the same last season. Our transfers are very difficult to predict these days.
Would be a dream signing but it's goal.com
There is absolutely no chance though that we won't strengthen our midfield despite Carrick and Fletch signing new deals this week.
The rule is if its goal.com, its bullshit
Also add Caughoffside.com and maybe even Tribalfootball.com to that list.
Well said chief
Not so sure about it happening but Pastore looks a phenomenal talent
Rooney replacement? 4-2-3-1 playing behind Berba or Chicharito.
I can't get the claims where he is defensively poor, do we really need the a very strong defensive unit in Pastore ? No... Was Paul Scholes ever the best Defensive MF in the PL ?
No again, let Carrick/Fletch do the dirty work and let Pastore create...
Also playing him ala Giggsy would do great too...
And he can revert to the hole in 4-3-3 if required... He is quite versatile...
One of the best targets we could ever be linked with, where is the optimism ?
No again, let Carrick/Fletch do the dirty work and let Pastore create...
Also playing him ala Giggsy would do great too...
And he can revert to the hole in 4-3-3 if required... He is quite versatile...
One of the best targets we could ever be linked with, where is the optimism ?
It's a good thing if he is defensively poor, so we dont persist with playing 3 holding mids
But that doesn't really unbalance the side, considering Giggs has a wealth of knowledge (probably more so than any other current player) of playing out wide, so when necessary, both in an attacking and defensive sense Giggs can revert back to hugging the touchline. But even though this is Giggsy he still cuts inside in the 'wide playmaker' role as you call it (a winger?) as soon as you roam inside you just become a playmaker for me. Yes Pastore could do it, but I still think it'd unbalance the side and cause Evra a lot of work.
Anyway, considering we've been linked with Henderson, Chamberlain, Young and Rodwell, I'd rather see the money spent on all those spent on Pastore. Even if those four would provide a solid back-bone of home-grown and English players.
For me that makes no sense. Pastore is defensively decent enough to help out Evra if need be and is a very tactically astute player. There is no reason why he can't do the very same job Giggs does for us now. We are not unbalanced when Giggs does it so there no reason why we would be if another player was doing it. Even with Nani playing there he does the very same things Giggs does. Spending more of his time letting Evra over lap him as he makes things happen inside the fullback. I don't think we've used a proper left winger since Evra hit form for us after his signing.
Indeed.
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That's fair enough, while it sounds feasible enough it is probably a waste of Pastore's talents which are best utilized playing through the middle. We'd probably be better off playing him behind the striker in a 4-4-2, much like Kaka can do when needed.
Ive seem him play with palermo and he simply switches off when his team looses possesion. The up side is that he is always in space and provides a great outlet when his team regains possesion. This cannot be done in a 4 4 2. Thats y I cant see him playing in such a system. For me he is perfect in a 4 4 1 1 or 4 2 3 1 behind rooney berba or whoever.
Do I want pastore YES!! i am simply pointing out that he would most likely dictate a change of system in our premier league games and would fit in perfectly in our champions league system
Scholes and Carrick, who is the third?
Interesting to watch him tonight, he started out as virtually a second striker and although he had some good moments he struggled to get as much into the game as usual.
In the second half he dropped deeper and really did orchestrate all of Palermo's best attacks despite them having zero punch at the end of them.
His movement through midfield with the ball is effortless, he almost glides past players, and his short passing game is great, but tonight his longer range passes were a bit hit and miss.
One area he would need to improve on here is his workrate when his team aren't in possession, however I think he is ready to step up, he has outgrown Palermo.
In the second half he dropped deeper and really did orchestrate all of Palermo's best attacks despite them having zero punch at the end of them.
His movement through midfield with the ball is effortless, he almost glides past players, and his short passing game is great, but tonight his longer range passes were a bit hit and miss.
One area he would need to improve on here is his workrate when his team aren't in possession, however I think he is ready to step up, he has outgrown Palermo.
The thing is we could use him on the left against most side, down the middle in our favoured 4-3-3 in tough games and against really weak teams we can surely place him alongside a Fletcher or Carrick. Or whoever we bring in to replace Hargreaves.
I think he'd be a fabulous signing for us if we ever got him.
I can't imagine us getting him. Plus, what kind of money would we be looking at?
He must be dying to get out of that shower of shite. Some absolutely incompetent defending the last several games I've seen of them.
I think him being linked with us during the week was probably his agents way of trying to get him a deal with a top club in spain or italy!
Barcelona have moved to buy first option on Palermo star Javier Pastore.
Sky Italia says Barca have already approached Palermo president Maurizio Zamparini about a price for first refusal on the exciting Argentina midfielder.
Chelsea, Manchester United and Manchester City are also intensifying their interest in Pastore this year.
It's suggested Barca want to be alerted should Real Madrid come knocking on Zamparini's door for the midfielder. The Spanish champs are desperate not to see Pastore move to Madrid in the summer.
Barcelona move to buy first option for Palermo star Pastore | Serie A News | tribalfootball.com
Barcelona have moved to buy first option on Palermo star Javier Pastore.
Sky Italia says Barca have already approached Palermo president Maurizio Zamparini about a price for first refusal on the exciting Argentina midfielder.
Chelsea, Manchester United and Manchester City are also intensifying their interest in Pastore this year.
It's suggested Barca want to be alerted should Real Madrid come knocking on Zamparini's door for the midfielder. The Spanish champs are desperate not to see Pastore move to Madrid in the summer.
Barcelona move to buy first option for Palermo star Pastore | Serie A News | tribalfootball.com
Jesus, Palermo were rubbish against Lazio last night, Pastore didn't have a great game at all and Josip Iličić was once again playing nothing like he was at the start if the season. The wheels seem to be falling off of the Palermo bandwagon
I think what Brwned said about us not buying no.10s is an interesting point here. He's probably right, so unless we have a change of direction I'm not sure we're likely to buy a Pastore or a Ganso.
Probably old news recycled. They got nothing else to print on United due to our media blackout.
It's popping up on a few sites now, Football365 are running with the story now as-well
A lot of these reports coming out now, apparently the Spanish press were all over it last night with them stating:
Now I don't want to joing the MuppetWagon, but this would be one hell of a coup. We can all dream for now
Now I don't want to joing the MuppetWagon, but this would be one hell of a coup. We can all dream for now I'm waiting for the official word before the trousers come down.
please let it be true lol.
OMG, Skysports !!!!
Something is definitely on !
Something is definitely on !
feck it, great business for Palermo, we were close to getting him ourselves but he preferred the Italian league instead of the Portuguese League + Champions League.
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