Javier Hernandez | 2013/14 Performances

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What was he pissed about at the end of the match? He didnt look happy.

He didn't look happy when he got substituted... (not that I can see his face from where I was sat... but he didn't applaud the fans or anything). and fair enough, he was having a very good game.

He should start against WBA.
 
I feel he's probably the unluckiest player at United. He rarely plays badly, scores goals, works hard and there has been a noticeable improvement in his all round play. You wouldn't select him ahead of RvP though.
 
I feel he's probably the unluckiest player at United. He rarely plays badly, scores goals, works hard and there has been a noticeable improvement in his all round play. You wouldn't select him ahead of RvP though.

If RVP is unavailable for whatever reason (like Sunday) he should be straight in there... his movement can cause all sorts of problem, and I fully imagine Kompany & Nastasic would have had to work much harder with had Chico played.
 
They both look like lesbians... but if they were a lesbian couple (and they'd be a lovely couple), Hernandez would be the man in the relationship.

Hernandez 3 - 0 Messi.
 
I hope he starts vs West Brom.

Really would hate for us to lose him because we underplay him, and rely on him being happy with that role of coming off the bench.
 
I'd play him ahead of Welbeck at the weekend. It's unfortunate for him since you can't really play him ahead of an in-form Rooney or a fit RvP. He's obviously a much better goalscorer than Welbeck, but the problem is fitting him into the side when Rooney & RvP are available, that's why Welbeck has been playing ahead of him. Now that van Persie's out, Hernandez should retain his place.
 
I feel sorry for him being taken off, he must feel cursed to play for United. Even though he plays well he will end up being benched with Rooney and RvP ahead of him.

What's this? He was instrumental in the 2010/11 league winning season, being plucked from Chivas and making a name for himself as a top player. He has openly declared his admiration for the club and has become a bonafide fan favourite.

Last season he wasn't the main man but he still stood up when necessary. The "hat trick" against Villa being the particular highlight.

2 league titles out of 3 seasons with the club tells you he is definitely not cursed to play for United. He will get his chances, and what's abundantly clear is that he will take them.
 
Good to see he scored and played well. Hopefully him being subbed means that he may be in Moyes plans for our next match as well.
 
He'd score 30 goals every season if he was starting at a different club. Would be unreal for Chelsea.

Would not get the right service. He's not really that great at tight touchy interplay which their three players in behind like to create for themselves (striker black hole). He'd get absolutely nothing delivered in behind from the wing at all.

Imo, he'd be terrible in a team like Chelsea.
 
I wouldn't be against sacrificing one of our wingers to play Hernandez, Rooney, RvP in the same side for a few games. Play some kind of 4-3-2-1 maybe. It's certainly worth a try IMO.
 
I love Chicha and considering the fact that RVP can do with another games rest, I do want him to start on the weekend.
But based on what we have seen from Chicha before, I am so sure that he will have a less than average game on the weekend(might score regardless), where his hold up and passing game will be poor. He usually does that after having a good game.
Having said that, I do feel his overall game is improving.
 
He's the perfect player in terms of attitude. He was disappointed to be subbed off but the way he contained everything, he's a great pro and one who should be playing more. His overall game has improved so much since his arrival, he's become a good passer of the ball.
 
He's brilliant. Would be a first choice for nearly every top club.
 
I love Chicha and considering the fact that RVP can do with another games rest, I do want him to start on the weekend.
But based on what we have seen from Chicha before, I am so sure that he will have a less than average game on the weekend(might score regardless), where his hold up and passing game will be poor. He usually does that after having a good game.
Having said that, I do feel his overall game is improving.

Why would Van Persie need a rest, 5 league games into the season? He has missed the last 2 matches with an injury. If he is fit he plays.
 
Would not get the right service. He's not really that great at tight touchy interplay which their three players in behind like to create for themselves (striker black hole). He'd get absolutely nothing delivered in behind from the wing at all.

Imo, he'd be terrible in a team like Chelsea.

He wouldn't be terrible in any top team that has quality "creators". He'd be terrible for a team like Pulis' Stoke City. At Chelsea he'd thrive on the service from Oscar, Mata, Hazard etc.
 
I'd even argue that he won't be terrible for Pulis Stoke City. Imagine the no. of goals from corners and throw ins :drool:.
 
Like I said before, he's a better player than Welbeck yet seemingly is always behind him in the pecking order, both under Moyes and SAF.

Do these managers have an irrational love for British players like Welbeck and Young that blinds them to the obvious or something?
 
I love the guy, but I don't want his career to go down the OGS route.

He deserves to be playing week in, week out and I don't think we can offer him that atm.
 
I love the guy, but I don't want his career to go down the OGS route.

He deserves to be playing week in, week out and I don't think we can offer him that atm.

I cant see that happening. We play with a lone striker and rvp + rooney are better then him
 
Chelsea should have probably gone after him instead of Rooney... he'd score shit loads for them.

Then again, Mourinho would probably want him to change his play and forget about finishing and become better at crossing...
 
He'd be absolutely lethal in Chelsea's team. Oscar, Mata and Hazard supplying him... it's like the perfect three behind him. He would score a goal a game.
 
Chelsea should have probably gone after him instead of Rooney... he'd score shit loads for them.

Then again, Mourinho would probably want him to change his play and forget about finishing and become better at crossing...

I suppose after having a bid for Hernandez rejected last summer (link) Chelsea figured he was part of our long term plans.

I cant see that happening. We play with a lone striker and rvp + rooney are better then him

Although for United, unlike with England, Rooney virtually always plays as a number 10 so there's no real reason why Hernandez could not start more, especially as Van Persie ages. Maybe not week in week out but certainly when Van Persie is injured or we've got a big game coming up and can afford to rest him e.g. when playing lower/mid-table sides we should be giving Hernandez a go. Chicharito's showed up in more than enough big games to prove he won't let us down.
 
Was so pleased for him yesterday. I've never seen him celebrate quite like that before either. You could see he was releasing a lot of frustration, I suspect down to his current situation of never getting a game.

Also, how he felt when subbed was written all over his face. Sheer frustration.
 
Who would be the 2, Rooney and RvP?

Yeah. It'd mean leaving out Nani probably, but it's just an option that the manager could perhaps try out now given the form of Rooney and Hernandez (and also given all our wide players and other players are seemingly out of form).
 
Do these managers have an irrational love for British players like Welbeck and Young that blinds them to the obvious or something?

Yes. I really think that nationality plays a role. Same about Rafael, if he wasn't near perfect and about 5 times better than Jones/Smalling we would have been behind of them in pecking order. In the 2011-2012 he was behind of them despite being better, though not by a large distance.
 
He wouldn't be terrible in any top team that has quality "creators". He'd be terrible for a team like Pulis' Stoke City. At Chelsea he'd thrive on the service from Oscar, Mata, Hazard etc.
Did I not just highlight why I think he would get the wrong service because they aren't genuine wide players but inside forwards creating quick touch moves in and around he area?

Way to miss that one all together

Now RVP there is someone who would thrive off the service of those three.
 
Did I not just highlight why I think he would get the wrong service because they aren't genuine wide players but inside forwards creating quick touch moves in and around he area?

Way to miss that one all together

Now RVP there is someone who would thrive off the service of those three.


There's absolutely no way he'd be terrible in Chelsea's team. He'd piss on the league.
 
There's absolutely no way he'd be terrible in Chelsea's team. He'd piss on the league.
They don't get to the line and play on chances. Have a look at their dash boards they rarely pass close to the byline. It's all quick touch passing driving diagonals into the box. Chica has shown he just doesn't have the consistent touch to link up play in those ways regularly.
 
He's the consummate poacher. Watching his movement live is tremendous, he's always on the move. I honestly believe he'd be as good as Suarez if he werent behind RVP and Rooney. The reason Welbeck gets more games, is because he can play wide and links play up better. Hernandez thrives on service, but not a player to go and get the ball ala Rooney etc

Really hope he gets enough games to keep him happy, and to keep his sharpness
 
Just saw his goal, such instinctive finishing. But Toure falling over the ball for the corner. :lol: what a fecking shit defender. Tyler "it just hit him", "not off the boot" fecking spec savers champ.
Google it.
 
They don't get to the line and play on chances. Have a look at their dash boards they rarely pass close to the byline. It's all quick touch passing driving diagonals into the box. Chica has shown he just doesn't have the consistent touch to link up play in those ways regularly.

Torres link-up play is hardly amazing these days, and he still finds himself getting loads of chances... Last season Torres scored something like 22 goals, yet I don't think anyone would use the word 'clinical' to describe his finishing... Hernandez would easily get 30+
 
He's a born predator and, credit where it's due, the rest of his game is coming on in leaps and bounds.

In previous seasons his all-round play wasn't good enough to get him as many games as he wants. He was a brilliant option off the bench but tended to be quite poor when he started games. He's yong and lernin' though and seems to be working incredibly hard to become a more rounded striker, so could well find himself higher in the pecking order. Last night was a brilliant reminder to Moyes of his quality.

As for the (slightly tedious) Welbeck vs Hernandez debate, Welbeck got a more games last season because of his versatilty, whether that meant playing wide or doing a number on Alonso. All manager love players like that. Hard working, intelligent and disciplined. If you could add the instincts of Hernandez to the all-round game of Welbeck you'd have an unbelievable player. As it is, it's horses for courses and both players still have lots of scope for improvent. Which can only be a good thing.
 
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