Exactly! Just play with 3 CBs, 2 wing backs (Nani and Rafael),
Rooney and Januzaj , Kagawa, RVP and Chico.
Javier Hernandez | 2013/14 Performances
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Rooney and Januzaj , Kagawa, RVP and Chico.
Rooney spends half of his time in midfield anyway
I considered the 3 CBS and 2 wing backs option
Basically, it's close to impossible to have Rooney, Hernandez, and RVP all playing in their perfect positions at the same time. Can't we change the rules to allow 12 players?Pay Fifa to give keep a max of 22 on the pitch, but give us 12. We get one and they lose one!Rooney spends half of his time in midfield anyway
I considered the 3 CBS and 2 wing backs option
Imagine the meltdowns!
I don't think there has been a more honest striker at United than Chicha since maybe Ole. His positive attitude and enthusiasm is infectious. He plays the game without resorting to underhand tactics, doesn't get involved in unnecessary banters with defenders and never stops running. He is a nightmare for any centre back, you just don't when or where he is going to pop up.
His anticipation and pace have always made me wonder how he would have performed in a traditional little and large partnership with a beast like say Niall Quinn, Zlatan Ibrahimovic or Les Ferdinand along side him. He is cracking player that one only hopes doesn't get disillusioned with his role at United.
As for Savage, he does have a point although his approach seems rather negative from the outset. As for offers, both Spurs and Madrid have at some point enquired about him in the past two or so seasons.
His anticipation and pace have always made me wonder how he would have performed in a traditional little and large partnership with a beast like say Niall Quinn, Zlatan Ibrahimovic or Les Ferdinand along side him. He is cracking player that one only hopes doesn't get disillusioned with his role at United.
As for Savage, he does have a point although his approach seems rather negative from the outset. As for offers, both Spurs and Madrid have at some point enquired about him in the past two or so seasons.
Chelsea too, IIRC, he would be a terror for them.....
I would disagree but then again this could be an endless debate for another thread.
Thought he looked bright... was a bit miffed to see him subbed off. I know he wanted to get RVP on, but I thought Hernandez, along with Nani looked like one of our only players who could actually control and hold onto the ball
Not sure who else we could have taken off to get RVP on though. Subbing off Rooney was the only other alternative since Nani and Januzaj were both looking the most likely to make something happen.
He didn't deserve to be subbed off. Linked up well, passed well, was the only one getting on the end of crosses. RVP wasn't needed today. Despite being in a poor position when he came on, I felt he killed our momentum by playing so high up. Hernandez was bringing people into play.
Perhaps he should have stayed on, and that sub used to get Evra into the game, which in turn would have lightened the load of Januzaj or Nani.
I think he's overrated because he's a loveable character to be honest. If anyone should've been taken off at half-time it was him, IMO.
I dont think he's overrated but his heightened senses of where to be to put the ball home were a little on the blink today. The supply was in there.
Having said that I think he did well in general play with what was being played up to him
Having said that I think he did well in general play with what was being played up to him
Agreed, his link up play was non-existent, I noticed Rooney throughout the game.. where was Hernandez, there was plenty of service for him in first half - no excuses.
He didn't have a great game today sadly, still think he's a brilliant player and underused here overall though.
Overrated how exactly? His goal ratio for his two clubs and country is 1 every 2 games.
I agree that he wasn't great today. Thought his build up play was decent but he lacked in the box imo. Subbing him for Januzaj would have made more sense.
Overrated in the sense that people think he's good enough to start for us and that if we sold him he'd be going for £30m+. He's a good goal-getter but come on.
I loved hernandez in his first season, then in my newbie days in his second season I was very critical of him. It seemed like he'd forgotten how to play football, lost his first touch, didn't know how to link up and everything about his game seemed poor.
Last season he won be back over though and I think he's still carrying on that form, his link up play has massively improved since that poor second season and his movement is fantastic. I think he's good enough to start for us, but the problem he has is that he's not good enough to displace either Van Persie or Rooney.
I think his all round play has been better than all the other attacking players this season. He just doesn't get played enough.
His passing has massively improved. Links up very will with Nani and Kagawa.
His passing has massively improved. Links up very will with Nani and Kagawa.
Agree with this. Don't understand criticism of his performance today. He dropped deep a lot and didn't lose possession once, in fact more often than not he found a teammate. Van Persie came on and was no more productive. Why? Because they are both number 9s who are at their best when we're winning the midfield battle and at half time we put up the white flag on that front. Moyes should have addressed that instead of taking off Hernandez. Simply changing the personnel when it was the system that had come unstuck at that point was just re-arranging deckchairs on the Titanic.
It's the goals.
Soldado was sold for 26m. Hernandez could easily command that much after a season of regular football in a team more suites tk his playing style. So it's not over rating him.
Well I don't think anyone should've been subbed at half, but I do agree that Hernandez seemed a better choice to come off than Kagawa. For me, it would've been an idea opportunity to push Rooney further forward (a position in which he has excelled,) and tucked Kagawa in behind in his preferred spot. Januzaj could've still taken up the spot on the wing. As for RVP, I think it would've been better to leave him on the bench, and used someone to replace Buttner (as has been mentioned earlier.)
Agree he's over rated and agree if anyone was to get the hook it should have been him but I'm reluctant to criticise him much today. I don't really like the excuse "didn't get the service" because I think it's overused to give forwards a bit of an excuse but Jesus if ever that excuse was apt it was today.
Never mind feeding off scraps, the lad didn't even have a nibble!
Sorry, but that's not true at all. Nani alone put in at least 2 or 3 fantastic crosses that Hernandez could have got on the end of.
I don't recall any crosses that he didn't get on the end of that he should have done.
Nani put in quite a few good crosses, and we had plenty of the ball in the final third (especially in the first half). I'm not having a go at Hernandez, but I on't think you can say he had no service today.
Didn't have a good game Chicharito. Normally would have gobbled up those crosses from Nani but seemed slow to react which is the opposite of him.
I love Javier Hernandez but everything about his body language right now screams out that he's unhappy at Man Utd and that he feels his days are numbered. Chico's celebration against Liverpool seemed more to be a roar of frustration than anything else and his body language when being subbed has transmitted anger above all else.
Also, for the criticism being directed against Chicharito for not getting onto crosses a) it was him going for Rooney's free kick that distracted the keeper, b) Van Persie had the same problem after coming on, c) shouldn't United be looking to play through balls for Hernandez and Van Persie to run onto instead of just slinging crosses in like we've still got Beckham?
Also, for the criticism being directed against Chicharito for not getting onto crosses a) it was him going for Rooney's free kick that distracted the keeper, b) Van Persie had the same problem after coming on, c) shouldn't United be looking to play through balls for Hernandez and Van Persie to run onto instead of just slinging crosses in like we've still got Beckham?
In previous seasons he looked great off the bench, not so good when he starts games. Liverpool game might mean this pattern is changing. Time will tell.
Last season he played some great games when starting.
I agree that his body language is suggesting unhappiness.
I can think of two crosses from Nani across the face of goal that if he had been a fraction quicker to react he would have been able to tap in which is most unlike Chicharito, he's usually the sharpest man in the box and the first to respond to everything.
I agree that his body language is suggesting unhappiness.
I can think of two crosses from Nani across the face of goal that if he had been a fraction quicker to react he would have been able to tap in which is most unlike Chicharito, he's usually the sharpest man in the box and the first to respond to everything.
One thing to his credit is, we've been more watchable with Hernandez leading the line before being subbed off twice than we have with RVP in domestic games.
One thing which I couldn't understand on Saturday was why was he the only one in the box attacking crosses? Nani never got in when Kagawa had it on the left, Kagawa vice versa and Rooney was just stood outside the box watching (minus one header from a free kick). If we're playing the crossing game we sure as he'll need more than Hernandez looking to get on the end of things. His game thrives on finding pockets of space, but that depends on others occupying the attention of the defenders.
Still think his all round play has been better than the other forwards including RVP, though to counter that he probably isn't on the ball that much.
One thing which I couldn't understand on Saturday was why was he the only one in the box attacking crosses? Nani never got in when Kagawa had it on the left, Kagawa vice versa and Rooney was just stood outside the box watching (minus one header from a free kick). If we're playing the crossing game we sure as he'll need more than Hernandez looking to get on the end of things. His game thrives on finding pockets of space, but that depends on others occupying the attention of the defenders.
Still think his all round play has been better than the other forwards including RVP, though to counter that he probably isn't on the ball that much.
I thought it was more an issue of players spreading themselves in the box. There were a few time where kagawa had moved towards the right to do a move with nani and then once they crossed it in there was no one going back post because Rooney and Hernandez had both gone central and nani and kagawa were on the same side. Maybe that's where the fullback needs to make a run or where one of the attackers needs to realise that there's no one on the left and drift wide a bit to get in to space. One of those things that hopefully will come with time.
I did sense some unhappiness from him as well. His celebration against Liverpool, then getting subbed. He seems frustrated.
I think he should start more matches, get his confidence up and get him amongst the goals. But with Rooney being in such good form and Van Persie being our top scorer (and main striker), it will be hard for Chicharito.
I think he should start more matches, get his confidence up and get him amongst the goals. But with Rooney being in such good form and Van Persie being our top scorer (and main striker), it will be hard for Chicharito.
He should have came on last night. RvP wasn't getting anywhere with the Shakhtar defence. RvP is the sort of player who needs his teammates around him to build up, try and create goals. Hernandez just needs a fluky cross, one chance and he buries it. He should have come on last night.
Van Persie was great in hold up play, we would never see any of the ball if we played Hernandez yesterday.
We're going to lose him if we don't play him. I'll be gutted.
Can't blame him, players want to play.
Were definitely going to lose him! I'm going to hate the day aswell, because I know he's going to be an immense goalscorer for some other team 
plus he's such a loveable little character!
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