Javier Hernandez | 2013/14 Performances

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Mexico boss Miguel Herrera has claimed that Manchester United striker Javier Hernandez is frustrated with a lack of opportunities at Old Trafford.

The 25-year-old has featured 16 times in the Premier League so far this season but he has mainly been used off the bench, making just four starts.

Hernandez has been linked with an exit in recent months, although his agent claimed that the striker had turned down offers from a number of European sides during the January transfer window.

The Mexico star has two years remaining on his current deal with United but Herrera says Hernandez is unhappy after speaking with him on a recent tour of Europe.

"He seemed well but he is a bit frustrated because he doesn't play despite training well and the truth is that when he does play, he makes a huge effort on the pitch," he told Raza Deportiva.

"He is a bit frustrated because the current manager doesn't give him many chances, but he is committed and doing what he can to become a starter.

"He likes to work and likes to show determination to achieve his goal."

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11095/9160638/
 
kundalini said:
Wayne Rooney spent the summer sulking and demanding a transfer. Moyes responded by playing him all the time in his favourite position. What a fine example that set for the rest of the team. I'm not surprised the other forwards are less than content.
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On top of the fact that he looks set to reward Rooney with a signifcant pay rise and long term captaincy of the side...
 
Giggsy PO said:
But only if you then take Osman back and give us Coleman instead.
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Only if then we give them Moyes and they'll give us Martinez.

An NBA trade like:
From Everton to United: Martinez, Osman, Baines
From United t Everton: Kagawa, Moyes, Osman
 
Revan said:
Only if then we give them Moyes and they'll give us Martinez.

An NBA trade like:
From Everton to United: Martinez, Osman, Baines
From United t Everton: Kagawa, Moyes, Osman
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Reminds me of this:

BeardedGenius said:
Here's what I suggest - I'm sure you'll agree:

CURRENT FIRST CHOICE:

Van Der Sar

Neville - Ferdinand - Vidic - Heinze

Ronaldo - Fletcher - Scholes - Park

Nistelrooy - Rooney



STEP 1: Buy Malboro Diara from Lyons for £17.2m plus Michael Silvestre
STEP 2: Sell John O'Shea to AC Milan for £4.3m plus £2.2m dependent on appearances
STEP 3: Buy Javier Mascapone and Tevez from Corinthians for £5.8m
STEP 4: Sell Question Fortune, Louis Saha, Alan Smith and Kevin Richardson to Real Betis and Valencia for undisclosed respectively
STEP 5: Buy Rio Walcott and Toure from Arsenal for Nistelrooy and Ji Park Sung plus £0.9m
STEP 6: Buy Thomas Gravesen and Mikael Ballack from Real Madrid for Rio Walcott plus £11.8m plus £3.5m
STEP 7: Sell Darren Fletcher to Everton - straight swap with Tom Cahill plus £7.2m and Tony Hibbert
STEP 8: Retire Scholes and sell Ronaldo to Man City for £12m
STEP 9: Buy Paul Robinson and Lesley King from Spurs for undisclosed plus £6.7m and Malboro Diarra
STEP 10: Buy Louis Saha and Joaquin from Real Betis for £9m plus Gabriel Heinze
STEP 11: Buy Flintoff from cricket for Gary Neville and £13m

NEW FIRST CHOICE:

Robinson

Hibbert - Ferdinand - Toure - King

Flintoff

Joaquin - Cahill - Gravesen - Ballack

Tevez
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Drifter said:
Mexico boss Miguel Herrera has claimed that Manchester United striker Javier Hernandez is frustrated with a lack of opportunities at Old Trafford.

The 25-year-old has featured 16 times in the Premier League so far this season but he has mainly been used off the bench, making just four starts.

Hernandez has been linked with an exit in recent months, although his agent claimed that the striker had turned down offers from a number of European sides during the January transfer window.

The Mexico star has two years remaining on his current deal with United but Herrera says Hernandez is unhappy after speaking with him on a recent tour of Europe.

"He seemed well but he is a bit frustrated because he doesn't play despite training well and the truth is that when he does play, he makes a huge effort on the pitch," he told Raza Deportiva.

"He is a bit frustrated because the current manager doesn't give him many chances, but he is committed and doing what he can to become a starter.

"He likes to work and likes to show determination to achieve his goal."

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11095/9160638/
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"Current manager". Ouch.
 
Until Hernandez comes out and says differently, I'll forever be convinced that he accepts that he won't be starting ahead of Rooney or Van Persie, but as long as he plays on a regualr basis, he will remain content with his role as a bench player.

Unfortunately, with the way the season has gone, Moyes hasn't really had the opportunity to play Hernandez the way Sir Alex did. Sure Moyes usually throws him on when we need a goal, like Sir Alex did. But the big difference has been the times when we were up a goal or 2 and Sir Alex would throw him on for the hell of it and it kept him happy and playing regularly.
 
manutddjw said:
Until Hernandez comes out and says differently, I'll forever be convinced that he accepts that he won't be starting ahead of Rooney or Van Persie, but as long as he plays on a regualr basis, he will remain content with his role as a bench player.

Unfortunately, with the way the season has gone, Moyes hasn't really had the opportunity to play Hernandez the way Sir Alex did. Sure Moyes usually throws him on when we need a goal, like Sir Alex did. But the big difference has been the times when we were up a goal or 2 and Sir Alex would throw him on for the hell of it and it kept him happy and playing regularly.
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Players like Ole is an one off and he is a legend of this club for very good reasons. Ole was such a loyal servant to us and still loves the club dearly. I suppose we can't have a super-sub like the baby face assassin ever. Look at how good Ole has become. He was always learning when on the bench and had been a wonderful player who's clever and could read and change games to save us whenever he's needed.
 
Useful sub and brilliant squad player but he doesn't have enough to his all round game to be a first choice starter for Utd or displace RvP or Rooney.

If he has a decent WC he'll be off I'd imagine.
 
pocco said:
Moyes needs to clear out some of these players, for the good of himself and the team. These public outbursts and sulking are just making things harder. Look at Kagawa, he's not been his best but has been miles better than Hernandez when called upon, yet he can still act with a bit of class and approach it with the right attitude.
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Given that Rooney put in two transfer requests in three years and is now being treated like a god, are you surprised other players are trying it on? You see one of your workmates pull a stunt like that, twice, and then be rewarded with playing where he wants, an offer of a pay rise and being talked about as the next team captain you're gonna think 'why not? If it comes off I get what I want, if not I ain't gonna be any worse off'. All this throwing the toys out of the pram stuff started with Moyes' indulgence of Rooney and as long as he keeps worshiping Wayne it'll only get worse...
 
Eyepopper said:
Useful sub and brilliant squad player but he doesn't have enough to his all round game to be a first choice starter for Utd or displace RvP or Rooney.

If he has a decent WC he'll be off I'd imagine.
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I don't think that anyone disagrees with this and I don't think that Hernandez has claimed that he is better than any of them or should start above them. He didn't start above them last year too, but was very happy and scored 19 goals or so. However this season his gametime has reduced even more and it looks that the problem is there, not because he isn't playing every game. In fact even in games when both of RVP and Rooney were out he barely started.
 
Revan said:
I don't think that anyone disagrees with this and I don't think that Hernandez has claimed that he is better than any of them or should start above them. He didn't start above them last year too, but was very happy and scored 19 goals or so. However this season his gametime has reduced even more and it looks that the problem is there, not because he isn't playing every game. In fact even in games when both of RVP and Rooney were out he barely started.
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None of the players waxing lyrical in the press would have dared to do that under Fergie because they knew full well their feet wouldn't have hit the ground.
 
Eyepopper said:
None of the players waxing lyrical in the press would have dared to do that under Fergie because they knew full well their feet wouldn't have hit the ground.
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Popper, when players do that on twitter, I think that they already know the possible consequences and I think are ready for that. By that time, it is very possible that the tension is very big in order for things to go back to normal. Hernandez looked always one of the smartest players in our team, he isn't a fool to think that if he 'blackmails' Moyes than he'll start playing every week. He also hasn't been treated like shit from SAF so he didn't had a reason to go against him. He was always respectful towards the club so I think that something nasty has gone behind the scenes (and not only based on that instagram comment but also on how he has celebrated like an angry mad person a few times this year).

Saying that, there were players who went publicly against Fergie. Keane for example (he lost). Rooney went against him and won. Scholes (who people here claims that is an angel) refused to travel for a match. Then I think there was a legend about Schmeichel or so.
 
manutddjw said:
Until Hernandez comes out and says differently, I'll forever be convinced that he accepts that he won't be starting ahead of Rooney or Van Persie, but as long as he plays on a regualr basis, he will remain content with his role as a bench player.

Unfortunately, with the way the season has gone, Moyes hasn't really had the opportunity to play Hernandez the way Sir Alex did. Sure Moyes usually throws him on when we need a goal, like Sir Alex did. But the big difference has been the times when we were up a goal or 2 and Sir Alex would throw him on for the hell of it and it kept him happy and playing regularly.
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In 2012/3 Hernandez started 9 PL matches 13 sub + 5 CL starts + 8 FA cup + LC, giving a total of 22 starts 13 sub scoring 18 goals

In 2011/2 18 starts in PL + 4 in europe, giving a total of 22 starts 14 sub scoring 12 goals

In 2010/1 15 PL starts + 6 in CL, giving a total of 27 starts 18 sub scoring 20 goals

This season 4 PL starts out of 25 (so on course for maybe 6 starts), 2 CL + 4 FA cup + LC, giving a current total of 10 starts 15 sub 7 goals

The clear difference is the number of starts Hernandez gets is likely to be down 40% on the previous two seasons unless Moyes suddenly starts selecting him. Moyes has had plenty of opportunity to start Hernandez. He has simply chosen not to do so.
 
Revan said:
Popper, when players do that on twitter, I think that they already know the possible consequences and I think are ready for that. By that time, it is very possible that the tension is very big in order for things to go back to normal. Hernandez looked always one of the smartest players in our team, he isn't a fool to think that if he 'blackmails' Moyes than he'll start playing every week. He also hasn't been treated like shit from SAF so he didn't had a reason to go against him. He was always respectful towards the club so I think that something nasty has gone behind the scenes (and not only based on that instagram comment but also on how he has celebrated like an angry mad person a few times this year).
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So we're back to what you 'think' based on what you've read in the Mirror or the Mail are we?

Saying that, there were players who went publicly against Fergie. Keane for example (he lost). Rooney went against him and won. Scholes (who people here claims that is an angel) refused to travel for a match. Then I think there was a legend about Schmeichel or so.
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Except none of them did it in public did they? Rooney - Fergie made public, twice. Keane was internal - Scholes we didn't even find out about til years later.

Better examples would be Beckham, and his alice bank to display the full glory of his famous cut, or Stam's biography, neither lasted long after those (and both were twice the player Hernandez is).

I'm not saying he shouldnt be getting a bit more time, but regardless I believe you keep this stuff internal, no matter what is going on, and if Hernandez didn't put the Mexico manager up to this then I'd expect him to come out publicly and say so, if it's how he really feels and he's doing all he can and still cant get a game - then continue pocketing the 10's of thousands you're being paid every week to play football, keep your head down, your mouth shut, and ask your agent to get you a move.
 
Didn't Hernandez retweet some comment about him having to leave if he didn't get more football a few months back? And I'm sure there were some comments from him in the Mexican papers too. He's been whinging all season, I don't know why to be honest, when he's played he's generally been poor.
 
Eyepopper said:
So we're back to what you 'think' based on what you've read in the Mirror or the Mail are we?
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I don't even read them (except if those articles are posted on Caf) so don't know why you always insist on that. By the way, did you read Rene's comments when he said that United didn't offer him any job?

Eyepopper said:
Except none of them did it in public did they? Rooney - Fergie made public, twice. Keane was internal - Scholes we didn't even find out about til years later.

Better examples would be Beckham, and his alice bank to display the full glory of his famous cut, or Stam's biography, neither lasted long after those (and both were twice the player Hernandez is).
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Rooney refused to extend the contract and questioned the club's ambition. Then on the second time refused to play. How that isn't on public?

Keane criticizes the players on the media. That was external too. You're right about Scholes though, but the point still stands that he went against Fergie

Eyepopper said:
I'm not saying he shouldnt be getting a bit more time, but regardless I believe you keep this stuff internal, no matter what is going on, and if Hernandez didn't put the Mexico manager up to this then I'd expect him to come out publicly and say so, if it's how he really feels and he's doing all he can and still cant get a game - then continue pocketing the 10's of thousands you're being paid every week to play football, keep your head down, your mouth shut, and ask your agent to get you a move.
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Ah, if only humans were robots and so many things would have been much easier.
 
Revan said:
I don't even read them (except if those articles are posted on Caf) so don't know why you always insist on that.
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So you're just full on making shit up now then, thats one way to win an argument I suppose, unless you can post something resembling a source.

By the way, did you read Rene's comments when he said that United didn't offer him any job?
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The ones he made before he had to face Utd at OT with an already under pressure Moyes? Yeah saw those, funny that he waited all that time to reveal that isn't it? If I didn't know better I'd say there's a hell of a lot more to it than what he said (or what was in the Mirror or the Mail), and that maybe he was cranking up the pressure on a rival manager.

Rooney refused to extend the contract and questioned the club's ambition. Then on the second time refused to play. How that isn't on public?
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Who made it public on both occasions :confused:

Keane criticizes the players on the media. That was external too.
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Exactly how do you classify an interview with the clubs own channel that has never seen the light of day as 'external'? Or are we just back to you making more stuff up?

You're right about Scholes though, but the point still stands that he went against Fergie
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Seriously have you ever played a team sport? Players go against each other, against management, against coaching, pretty regularly. Mostly it stays internal.

Utd have been blessed because we've had a manager who had a zero tolerance approach to this sort of shit, and regardless of whether it's Moyes or someone else I'd like to see that continue.

The manager answers to the board, the players answer to the manager - its as simple as that for me, any deviation from that is a bad thing for the sport in general IMO.



Ah, if only humans were robots and so many things would have been much easier.
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Huh? We paid 6m for him. I doubt anyone would argue that he is worth more than that now. If he want's off there will be plenty of takers and if we get an offer that gives up a sizeable profit I'd imagine Javier will be patted on the back, told thanks for all the goals and sent on his way because, as you've already agreed, he's not good enough to be anything other than a squad player/super sub for us.

I like him, I can understand that he might be frustrated at this stage of his career, but don't go doing anything at all that may undermine the club that plucked you from near obscurity and made you a multimillionaire world famous player.
 
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Jimy_Hills_Chin said:
I think that Moyes has handled him poorly. He is a cracking player coming off the bench but he needs more minutes to keep himself sharp. Sir Alex knew how to get the best out of him whilst keeping him happy with a limited role. Good man management.

The really odd thing is that this guy is the only striker that we have who really thrives off crossed balls.
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This. I'm beginning to get annoyed with Moyes. The constant crossing and tumescent play is bad enough, but to start losing players like Hernandez would be massively destabilizing. Fergie would never let him go and would make sure he is getting enough games, even if not first choice.
 
wonnie said:
This. I'm beginning to get annoyed with Moyes. The constant crossing and tumescent play is bad enough, but to start losing players like Hernandez would be massively destabilizing. Fergie would never let him go and would make sure he is getting enough games, even if not first choice.
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I agree but its been obvious for months that Moyes doesn't fancy Chico as a player and would get rid of him as soon as he could. My fear with Moyes is that he'll move on some of our most important squad players and replace them with lesser more workmanlike players. Only to then get fired and leave United with a worse squad than he inherited to try and get back into the top four with.
 
#07 said:
My fear with Moyes is that he'll move on some of our most important squad players and replace them with lesser more workmanlike players. Only to then get fired and leave United with a worse squad than he inherited to try and get back into the top four with.
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:drool:

#TheDream #MoyesOughtNotGo
 
#07 said:
I agree but its been obvious for months that Moyes doesn't fancy Chico as a player and would get rid of him as soon as he could. My fear with Moyes is that he'll move on some of our most important squad players and replace them with lesser more workmanlike players. Only to then get fired and leave United with a worse squad than he inherited to try and get back into the top four with.
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So sad. At the risk of sounding a bit offensive, I'd say Moyes is being stupid and making a serious mistake by losing Chicharito. He really is an invaluable player and the role he plays in the squad is perfect. Manage him properly ffs, that's what he is paid to do - man management.
 
Interesting this. I was saying to my mate the other day "Did you see Hernandez' reaction when RvP scored that penalty against Palace?". It seemed like he was in a bit of a huff, rolled his eyes and barely clapped.

In contrast, when Fellaini had that chance, it showed the bench and Hernandez was on his feet looking like he was going to go mad. There was a massive difference considering one was a miss and one was a goal. Maybe him and RvP don't see eye to eye. have they started many games together?
 
Whether it's a dig or not, its only natural for some people in teams not to get a long. Especially when one has limited the game time of another so much.

Nothing too big in this.
 
I seem to remember RvP praising Chicharito a lot. I bet there is nothing in it.

But if there is then it's definitely Moyes' fault :D
 
Hernandez has acted pathetic this season. All this model pro last season under Fergie. Easy to do it under Fergie, because Hernandez would be out the door.

He needs to do us all a favour. Delete his twitter account.
 
Jesus. Another day, another quote. Could everybody just shut the feck up and concentrate on kicking the ball to a red shirt for a bit.
 
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