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Javier Hernandez | 2013/14 Performances
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He's a much better forward than Welbeck.
A wonder that he actually plays well when he plays for more then 5 minutes like what moyes was giving him. Some great passes, and showed really quality on the ball, and got a goal.
Get ready to see him sold. Moyes clearly doesn't fancy him. Maybe he doesn't run around enough in training...
Bit bizarre that he dropped deep while Welbeck was clearly told to stay up top, but he was our best performer. Ridiculous to choose Young over him, really.
Did really well today. Great attitude. I know it's a given with him but it still should be appreciated.
Still my favourite Lesbian. I love it when he scores.
Glad to see him do well today. Been abit hit and miss with him so far this season, one game he looks great whilst suddenly he's not able to controll the ball. Looked great today though, hopefully he'll keep it going.
Pretty much this. When he is given a chance, the rest of the team are fecking useless and give him no service.
Really useful player to have off the bench. Still not good enough to be a starter for a top team in my opinion. Is just too limited. Played really well today mind you.
His first touch was a lot better today than it has been recently, looked really sharp. Needs to start against Sunderland.
And if he can do that, why should we care about the rest of his game? I'd rather have him doing beggar all else and scoring goals, than having ten outfield players doing all the techie wonderstuff etc. and not getting the goals.
Yeah but Livvie, I think you're placing too much importance in the "goals" aspect of football... Afterall, I think you'll find you don't win football games by scoring "goals".
Last time he started consistently, we won the league and made it to the Champions League final.
He's literally the biggest pain in my arse.
I like this guy so much but I wouldn't start him over Danny at the moment, not to mention RVP or Rooney. At the same time, I absolutely understand that he doesn't like being on the bench for so long but if I could, I'd tie him with some chains to a radiator just so he stays with us.
I like this guy so much but I wouldn't start him over Danny at the moment, not to mention RVP or Rooney. At the same time, I absolutely understand that he doesn't like being on the bench for so long but if I could, I'd tie him with some chains to a radiator just so he stays with us.
Fair enough if the rest of the team is better at everything including scoring goals. But they're not. Hernandez has hardly played, so it's patently obvioius that those who play more or less regularly, are also limited.
How would you play if you knew you might only get 5 minutes to play and if you don't pull up trees you'll be benched for the next 5 games? Hernandez has been ridiculously mismanaged by Moyes. He was pretty much frozen out til the Liverpool league cup tie and his involvement since has been bit part at best. Moyes clearly doesn't fancy him and shows it. How many people in any work place will do well when they their boss undermines their morale? Chico's performance today is testament both to his skill and strength of mind.
He scored two goals in league this season, his form has been pretty poor while Welbeck was excellent, stop acting like children.
Btw, he was excellent today.
Btw, he was excellent today.
Yet when he was trusted from the start, he choked and come up short. Hernandez is not good enough to compete with RvP or Rooney, and Welbeck has been playing well in his last few games. I love the little pea, but I dont think he's good enough to be a regular.
Welbeck isn't good enough to start for a top team either. He's not got a killer instinct and far too often is happy to just play it simple. He's a good player mind you, like Hernandez, just not united quality. Hernandez has been terribly managed though. He should be getting 30 mins every game at least, not 5 minutes once every 3 games.
He's started 4 PL games and appeared as a sub in 10, he's scored 2 and assisted 2 in that time - hardly the sort of run of games to get form is it?
And you don't think he could be excellent given a run? You don't think players need games to get momentum and confidence?
Welbeck was garbage at the beginning of the year - maybe his excellence is down to a show of confidence from the manager?
I swear if Chico hadn't played at all this season, he'd be slated for not scoring.
If Hernandez was able to play in any other position than as a central forward, he might've played more games.
Was that your opinion in his first season too?
Added a spark to us when he came on today, he's been a mixed bag this season but he never stops trying when he gets his chance.
Not at all, he was a revelation. Opposition learned how to deal with him though. Again, I love him but right now I dont think he merits a spot ahead of any of our other strikers. I would love if he ended up being our main striker for the next decade, just as I hoped Anderson would become our star midfielder. It's just my opinion though, I fully accept that others dont agree with me
Not at all, he was a revelation. Opposition learned how to deal with him though. Again, I love him but right now I dont think he merits a spot ahead of any of our other strikers. I would love if he ended up being our main striker for the next decade, just as I hoped Anderson would become our star midfielder. It's just my opinion though, I fully accept that others dont agree with me
The opposition have learned how to handle the majority of our players.
Yet now we're discussing Hernandez.
Instead of who you exactly expected him to play? Dropping van Persie, Rooney, or Welbeck?
Welbeck proved his quality as striker in first game he played there, I don't see how Welbeck's performances on the wing has anything to do with him up front.
I would have granted some of the opportunities that have been offorded to Welbeck and Kagawa to Hernandez.
We are indeed. And I think it's unfair to single him out, when he's had less gametime than most, and isn't the worst in the squad by any means, and there are players who probably are worse, who are getting more time.
I agree, but I reckon those players should be discussed in their respective threads. He has huge potential, but I dont think he merits a starting spot ahead of any of our other options right now.
Obviously I don't think he should be ahead of an inform VP or Rooney. But he deserves more of a chance than he's getting with those two injured.
I've given him a fair bit of stick this season but in this game he did very well all things considered. In the first half we looked half decent but never had anyone in the box, second half started and we just couldn't get out of our half with no-one pushing them back. On come Hernandez and he was pushing the Chelsea centre backs right to edge of their box and let us have more space on the ball as well as someone to aim at in the box. Good positioning for his goal, maybe this was a game for him to start in hindsight.
Rooney has played almost every game since start of the season, van Persie was starter for the whole time while he was fit, and Welbeck has been great since Rooney's injury, it's not like we didn't have anyone to play upfront.
Welbeck had a couple of great games, and some have been not so great. Hernandez deserves as many opportunities as Welbeck, especially bearing in mind that Welbeck has also been just dire on some occasions. Hernandez is, imo, more likely to get a goal than Welbeck, but not without a decent run to build up his confidence.
When exactly was Welbeck poor as centre forward?
It's only been in recent weeks that Moyes faith in him has been justified, imo. He had some pretty abysmal performances early season.
Plus if Ashley Young and Tony Valencia are the cause of Chico and Welbz not playing together while RVP and Wayne are out then bloody hell...
More rubbish from Livvie on Welbeck. The only game he played up front earlier in the season was the 4-1 against City.
He's not been preventing Hernandez from being played up front. And Hernandez has been poor this season as a whole, worse than Welbeck anyway, despite a promising cameo today.
He's not been preventing Hernandez from being played up front. And Hernandez has been poor this season as a whole, worse than Welbeck anyway, despite a promising cameo today.
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