Yeah, because they've both scored feck all here.
Amir is right though. People like Hernandez and RVP would be much more lethal with a quality midfield backing them up.
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Amir is right though. People like Hernandez and RVP would be much more lethal with a quality midfield backing them up.
Yeah, because they've both scored feck all here.
I tell you, if we were better in creating chances, I reckon Van Persie would have had a 40+ season last year, like Ronaldo or Van Nistelrooy. But I'm especially talking about this season. People would say Hernandez and RVP have been subpar, but there's a limit to what any striker can do with such limited service.
Yep. I think Hernandes was quite poor tbf. However, how many chances were created for him? He will never be a Suarez who creates chances from nothing. Our midfield is certainly part of the problem, but our wingers can't create at the moment. Crosses are poor and generally speaking our attacking play lacks both flair and fluidity.
I still think we overrate him, our 4 strikers as good as they are I think we miss a skilful target man with pace who can dribble, basically a Drogba type player.. for me Welbeck can potentially be that player but Hernandez is a poacher. Like you said in a team which dominates possession and is struggling to break teams down, he's useful.. but in a team which struggles to keep the ball - I find his hold up play is almost non-existent at times. His inability to go past players on a regular basis is also frustrating because we need players who carry the ball in this team and can be unpredictable.
Not saying he hasn't been a great servant for us, but i feel someone like a Giroud type player could help our performance levels whenever Rooney or Welbeck is out. I love Hernandez though so I'd love for him to just start banging in the goals - I just think he's limited and unless he's incredibly prolific in goal, he isn't doing enough to merit playing for us as a starter.
Or we fix our midfield to such an extent, his lack of contribution to build up play becomes a non-issue.
His best football came with RVP last season. Didn't they hate each other or something too?
Doesn't look happy more than anything. He and Kagawa won't be here much longer from what I can see. Both are better than they are showing but neither are doing themselves any justice either.
Doesn't look happy more than anything. He and Kagawa won't be here much longer from what I can see. Both are better than they are showing but neither are doing themselves any justice either.
I agree with those who say that David Moyes has shattered his confidence, at the height of which, especially in his first season, he contributed a lot.
It's hard to find players like Hernandez who have that outstanding understanding of the game as to when and where to make those runs and then have the actual ability to finish off the moves on most occasions.
I'll be disappointed if we let him go and who ever is on the other side of the deal will be getting one hell of a bargain. He looks bereft of confidence and needs a run of games to regain the sharpness and confidence. The super-sub and comparisons to Ole hasn't really helped him I guess. He is now expected to play at the same level even if it's odd twenty or ten minutes here and there or odd games.
I'll be disappointed if we let him go and who ever is on the other side of the deal will be getting one hell of a bargain. He looks bereft of confidence and needs a run of games to regain the sharpness and confidence. The super-sub and comparisons to Ole hasn't really helped him I guess. He is now expected to play at the same level even if it's odd twenty or ten minutes here and there or odd games.
IMO he looks frustrated and lacking self belief. Shame refs robbed him of that goal against WHU.
on the other hand he looks well synced with Kagawa.
on the other hand he looks well synced with Kagawa.
Sadly, the only aspect of his game that is United quality is his instinct and goalscoring ability. He lacks in the other departments.
I'm sure we all love the guy, but he really should move on for the sake of his career. He deserves to be starting games, but he won't get that here when we have Rooney and RVP (and an on form Welbeck) in our ranks. I'd only keep him if he's willing to be our super-sub, which I doubt he wil.
I'm sure we all love the guy, but he really should move on for the sake of his career. He deserves to be starting games, but he won't get that here when we have Rooney and RVP (and an on form Welbeck) in our ranks. I'd only keep him if he's willing to be our super-sub, which I doubt he wil.
One of our strikers has to go and left to the club, that will probably be Hernandez. He hasn't thrived at all under Moyes and unless one of Rooney and rvp wants out, I think Hernandez will be off.
I want Hernandez to stay and there is no doubting he will be here until the end of the season. However, if Rooney or possibly RVP was to leave, there is no way we can have Hernandez leading the line if we want to compete in the league and in Europe. He doesn't offer what the others can over 90mins. Yes, he is lethal when given the chance and is so valuable but we can't rely on him being the main man. And when you look at it, out of Hernandez and Welbeck, Hernandez is the one we could get some cash for, not Welbeck.
So in saying that, if we get Rooney or RVP on a new deal, I really think it's the end of Hernandez at the club. If he wanted to stay, perfect, he is a great option to have but there is no way we can have him come in as the main man to replace a world class player.
So in saying that, if we get Rooney or RVP on a new deal, I really think it's the end of Hernandez at the club. If he wanted to stay, perfect, he is a great option to have but there is no way we can have him come in as the main man to replace a world class player.
He's a supersub but not being used as one. He rarely has been involved this season and his form seems to have suffered.
The reason he's struggling imo is because he's perfectly suited to the way we used to play late on in games that we were chasing. We would bombard the opposition with wave after wave of attack. Constantly whipping balls into their box and Chicharito thrives on that type of play, he gobbles up those chances. We've had a few comebacks this season but we haven't put the opposition under that level of sustained pressure once as far as I can remember. We used to have teams pegged back into their area so we didn't struggle to play through them meaning Hernandez could spend most time in the box where he's dangerous.
I agree. For me, he has not made the step up that is required at a club like United. The way we play right now, we need strikers like RvP, Rooney or Welbeck. He just cant excell with his game in our current set up and I doubt he's happy being 4th choice
I think one of his best attributes is his movement off the ball. The space he creates with intelligent running off the ball has allowed Rooney etc to score lots of goals. Its just a pity this side of his game never even gets highlighted by the press/media.
Id hate to see him leave personally.
I actually think he'd do really well in a team like Arsenal, where they don't need their striker to create as much -- their midfield does that for them -- but instead put chances away. Giroud is good, but incredibly wasteful sometimes. Hernandez would be ideal for them in that it wouldn't matter that he'd not be involved too much in the build-up as they have Ozil, Wilshere, Cazorla and Ramsey doing the creating; they just need someone with a poacher's instinct to put all those chances in the back of the net.
I think Giroud takes a big important in the creating chances process at Arsenal, he isn't the best finisher but his linking up has improved so much in the last few months. Hernandez would have to alter his style of play if he was an Arsenal player.
Arsenal need an all rounder upfront but certainly someone more clinical than Giroud.
Hernandez is not that guy. Suarez was.
Hernandez is not that guy. Suarez was.
I don't buy that he can't start. He was doing alright in his debut season. We won the league and went to the CL with him starting
I don't buy that he can't start either. He's never had a run of games in the side since his debut season where he was fine when starting. All he gets is the cup competitions and starts to rest RVP or Rooney.
If he were to join another side, I doubt they would feel he was not good enough to start, especially with the goal return he would give them.
The caf's always gone on cycles with Hernandez and it's nearly always reciprocal with how Welbeck is doing. When he was banging in goals last season as a super sub plenty wanted him in the side to start and for us to look into the diamond formation. When Danny is doing well, it's back to that Hernandez does not offer enough other than goals to start.
Simple truth is he has not really had a chance because of how good RVP and Rooney are and that's a situation unlikely to change. If he wants to be a starter he will probably have to leave.
Personally I think he would be awesome for Chelsea or Arsenal and I know plenty of Chelsea fans would love him on here.
If he were to join another side, I doubt they would feel he was not good enough to start, especially with the goal return he would give them.
The caf's always gone on cycles with Hernandez and it's nearly always reciprocal with how Welbeck is doing. When he was banging in goals last season as a super sub plenty wanted him in the side to start and for us to look into the diamond formation. When Danny is doing well, it's back to that Hernandez does not offer enough other than goals to start.
Simple truth is he has not really had a chance because of how good RVP and Rooney are and that's a situation unlikely to change. If he wants to be a starter he will probably have to leave.
Personally I think he would be awesome for Chelsea or Arsenal and I know plenty of Chelsea fans would love him on here.
You know correctly!
Would love him here maybe we should put in a cheeky bid, if nothing else but to stop him scoring against us!
That was then, this is now.
Playing with Dirk Kuyt's boots today it seems. Not trapping anything atm.
He needs confidence - since Moyes arrived, he's been virtually ignored. If he's scored he's still been out of the side next game, if he hasn't scored he's been dropped. He's not been given a fair crack, not getting a game even when Welbeck was being 'absolute balls'. Players needs games for confidence and momentum. Chico has been good for us for two years - he hasn't suddenly become a bad player. He's now one who has no confidence, and very little motivation.
Players who give us less than him have been selected ahead of him.
Welbeck is proof of what a run - and a show of confidence - can do for a striker.
Chico has had good games this season, then been dropped the next one. No momentum, no self-belief.
fecking learn to control a football ffs.
Struggled when he came on
He cant even control a football.
Of course he struggled! Jesus, the guy knows that he has to do miracles to get a game. He can't be enjoying playing.
If I'm going to blame any players, I'd blame the ones who are playing every game and not doing it for us - not one who has had hardly any game time this season.
If I'm going to blame any players, I'd blame the ones who are playing every game and not doing it for us - not one who has had hardly any game time this season.
He couldn't control a balloon. It's shocking.
Come off it, lads. Hernandez has never been known for his technical abilities outside the box. He's a six-yard box finisher. That's it.
Hernandez is made for a mid-table team I'm afraid. He's world class in movement and killer instinct but is too weak technically, will always be a hindrance in build-up play for possession teams.
Touch of a rapist.
Learn to control the fecking ball.
I don't believe you can judge him accurately unless he's in the team constantly, and failing to produce. He had a superb game a few weeks ago, and was then out of the side next game.
It's hardly his fault that United are mid-table, so blame the players who have been regulars, not a player who surely can't be match fit anyway?
Can't blame him for being rusty though. He's barely played 45 minutes of football the past month.
When did we become a possession team?
He's played about 100 mins all season yet people expect miracles. We should sell him imo. He doesn't deserve to be on the bench.
His touch is so pitiful. A player this limited technically has no place at a club aspiring to be amongst the elite. Guardiola identified a player who similarly brings goals but absolutely nothing else (Mario Gómez) and let him go. We need to do the same with Chicharito.
Oh, some people can.
Call Hernandez a mid-table player - ignore the fact that we're actually a mid-table side right now. We haven't played well all season, and there's a lot of players ahead of Hernandez to blame for that.
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