He's still only going to play a lesser part this season, unless there are injuries. For the good of his career he needs to leave. He deserves regular football.
Javier Hernandez | 2013/14 Performances
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Personally don't think he's 100% or has been even from pre-season. Or just rusty as hell, he still looks a bit sketchy.Understandable if there wasn't an underlying injury he was risking aggravating, which from what people have said sounds like it happened!
I had put the last couple of games down to the toe, but yeah, he looks a bit laboured and has been very peripheral at times. Maybe the extra intensity and running in training doesn't suit him the way it seems to with Rooney?
Possibly? Its off topic anyways, happy to chat about it in his thread overall he's doing to much in the build up and fighting for the ball to much. I have often found myself going feck mate get forward you're gonna hurt yourself fighting for the ball.
Eesh, that miss is horrendous. But there's no way he deserves the slating he's getting. The majority of football fans really are morons, so quick to forget how brilliant he's been for Mexico.
I love Javier Hernandez, he may be my favourite player frankly, but there's no way he should be missing that. I think the criticism of him has been way over the top but finishing like that is no way to reduce that criticism. I hope his performance against Costa Rica isn't a sign that 'it' is all starting to get to him.
Chico was clearly lacking in confidence at the tail end of 2011-12, which led him being far below his best for the final few months of that season. Don't want that to repeat itself this season.
Chico was clearly lacking in confidence at the tail end of 2011-12, which led him being far below his best for the final few months of that season. Don't want that to repeat itself this season.
I would have scored that one for sure.
He has a strange technique when going for those 'sweeping' sorts of tap ins. He seems to really twist his body needlessly. It looks like he's trying to kick a ball which is 10 times it's actual size, as he wraps his whole leg around it.
He did the same in this one many moons ago, but at least he had luck on his side here:
He did the same in this one many moons ago, but at least he had luck on his side here:
That was hillarious, smashing the ball into his own face. That is a skill in itself.
Let's hope he turns the play-off to his advantage and bags the goals that take Mexico to Brazil... may help get a few people off his back.
I'm a big fan of his. Unfortunately I don't think he is going to ever going to be given the opportunity to feature more prominently here. He is too nice of a guy and too productive to sit on the bench, rarely get off the bench, or not even make the bench.
A echo the sentiments of some of the other posters. He should really consider moving on, and I fully believe we will be weaker for it, but I think he is a bit of a special case. He's been so loyal AND good when he has gotten his chances that it would be selfish to want him to stay just so he can be 3rd, 4th or 5th choice.
A echo the sentiments of some of the other posters. He should really consider moving on, and I fully believe we will be weaker for it, but I think he is a bit of a special case. He's been so loyal AND good when he has gotten his chances that it would be selfish to want him to stay just so he can be 3rd, 4th or 5th choice.
We are lucky he is such a nice guy, who has some serious patience, kid of his talent should be starting week in week out somewhere, I doubt he is on a huge salary either compared to your City/Chelsea sub strikers
A lot like Solskjaer in his temperament.
In case anyone would like to know, we're about to change the national manager again (matter of minutes). He is the America manager, current champions and league leaders. The Mexican FA is also bringing the same sports director who took him to America, and the whole country has been asking for most of the America players to be on the National team, one of them is Jiménez (the other forward, the one of the bycicle kick).
So I'm not sure how this could affect his confidence. In less than a month we face New Zeland and I don't think he's guaranteed a place now. Herrera (new manager) is known for his temperament and motivational skills, but he might have to risk that in order to bring his America's equilibrium to the National team in order to secure a place. I really really hope Moyes is closely monitoring this.
So I'm not sure how this could affect his confidence. In less than a month we face New Zeland and I don't think he's guaranteed a place now. Herrera (new manager) is known for his temperament and motivational skills, but he might have to risk that in order to bring his America's equilibrium to the National team in order to secure a place. I really really hope Moyes is closely monitoring this.
Southampton play the high line, perhaps Hernandez will get the start to exploit it. However, he did travel across the ocean so he might not start. It really is impossible to guess the starting lineup these days.
Has anyone noticed...he looks a lot like Bruno Mars?
The clock is surely ticking now on Hernandez's Man Utd career, right? Can't buy an appearance for us at the moment, Moyes doesn't seem to want none of him. Hope he gets a run out in the League Cup against Norwich.
If we get rid of him, he'll come back to haunt us at some point.
I don't think the squad is strong enough to be able to lose a quality player, and not using him is annoying me far more than current performances/results.
I don't think the squad is strong enough to be able to lose a quality player, and not using him is annoying me far more than current performances/results.
It's annoying that we don't even send him on late on to stretch opposition defences.
The way we treat/use Hernandez really is terrible. No wonder he wants to leave.
This is the most annoying and thing about today. A second goal kills the game, and here we have possibly the most lethal striker in the league getting splinters in his arse while we bring off Rooney and stick Smalling on.
fecking travesty that he's not even getting appearances from the bench with us.
fecking travesty that he's not even getting appearances from the bench with us.
Imagine this guy playing at Spurs or Arsenal. He'd get 30 goals a season.
Was thinking today that he is just what Southampton need.
I think he wasn't involved due to his long haul trip with Mexico. Its a standard thing that Fergie used to do as well.
What about the other games? It's not that today was the exception, in fact it was the norm.
He can't do 15 minutes from the bench? Why have him there at all then?
Him, Kagawa & Zaha must be fuming.
I'm guessing Moyes saw him as an option if we're losing (maybe drawing) in the last 10 or 15. Daft to ignore the above points though, about how useful he'd be to bring on in a situation like today.
What Moyes needs to realise is that when you're 1-0 up, you need a goal.
Smalling for Rooney, while Hernandez sits on the bench ...fecking brilliant, Moyes
To be fair it's shocking that even Welbeck is ahead of him in the pecking order. Welbeck must be the most overrated youngster, I've ever seen. He can play in various positions, yes. But I never seen him play good in any of them. Yes, he runs a lot.
to be fair he has a point even if worded it badly. He hasnt been great in any position he has played but he has just shown small glimpses. Theres a reason people call him 'bambi on ice'. He will be good but there's gonna be loads of frustrations along the way. Right now though, Hernandez should be above him.
I'm not entirely convinced, though. Welbeck is only ahead of Hernández in the "pecking order" as a striker. The Manchester City game is the only game where Welbeck has played as a centre-forward this season. I would have done the same because he contributes to our overall play much more. And I've said it since I was a newbie, but football changes quickly. I used the Mandzukic example. Look at Benzema. Look at Aston Villa with Benteke and so on.
Welbeck's versatility is what allows him to play as a LW, RW, second striker, and a centre-forward Then this notion of him not playing well in any of these positions is - quite frankly - absurd. Against Real Madrid (first leg), he played as a LW and second striker - he was that good. In the return leg, he stopped Real Madrid's primary supplier, Alonso, from distributing the ball to Ronaldo. This isn't a post to defend Welbeck, but it's to defend his position in the team. Sure, he still needs to improve on his goal scoring record, but fans trying to comprehend why Hernández isn't starting by aiming shots at Welbeck is not the right way to go about it.
I've not seen anyone mention what Hernández has done this season. As little as he's played, he deserves criticism, as does every other player. Against Crystal Palace, he missed a great chance, after Rooney set him up. Against West Brom, his movement was off - he should have scored at least one, plus he failed to lay off Rooney at the beginning of the second half. His best performance was against Liverpool, but it's very hard for him to maintain such a performance. He deserves more chances, quite clearly, but he's on his way out, unless Van Persie picks up a season-ending injury.
This is worthy of some of the worst posts in the Newbs.
Who would you want in your team? Sturrridge or Welbeck. Welbeck for me as an attacking player offers no threat at all. He's not great creative wise and he gets nervous in front of goal. Atleast with Sturridge you are going to get a goal. He might be selfish, but all top goal scorers need to have a selfish streak. Welbeck doesn't.
His best performance came against Madrid, when he ran a lot and marked Alonso. That's a good example. He's an attacker last time, I checked. Are we desperate for another Park or something?
All he does is get in a good position and falls over.
Baffling that he is being picked ahead of Zaha and Hernandez. Zaha was brilliant during pre-season and deserves atleast one chance.
I'm tired of us picking players who run a lot and sacrifice our attacking threat. Valencia and Young are two, who do that and at the moment Welbeck is in that category too.
His best performance came against Madrid, when he ran a lot and marked Alonso. That's a good example. He's an attacker last time, I checked. Are we desperate for another Park or something?
All he does is get in a good position and falls over.
Baffling that he is being picked ahead of Zaha and Hernandez. Zaha was brilliant during pre-season and deserves atleast one chance.
I'm tired of us picking players who run a lot and sacrifice our attacking threat. Valencia and Young are two, who do that and at the moment Welbeck is in that category too.
Why put him on the bench then?
Hernandez isn't really the answer, to be honest. If all-round superior strikers like van Persie and Rooney are struggling to get into games (because of problems deeper on the pitch), then I fail to see how Hernandez is going to make an impact. We're not playing anyone who'll play incisive balls in behind for him to latch on to.
There's a lot of difference in 'he might not make a difference so we won't bother' and 'he might make a difference so we'll give him a go'
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