All I see is Sir Alex saying he can play as lone striker. He could just as easily do that off the bench or starting. Where does Goal.com get that headline?
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All I see is Sir Alex saying he can play as lone striker. He could just as easily do that off the bench or starting. Where does Goal.com get that headline?
Well this is from the clubs official website:
Sounds very positive, Hernandez looks like being the ideal player to deploy in that lone striker role if you listen to Fergie there, and when Rooneys unavailable that solves a big problem as we so despertaly lacked that option last season.
Personaly im delighted Sir Alex is talking so positivly about Hernandez being right in and about the team from the get go, he mentions potential partnerships with Rooney as well as the ability to play Hernandez on his own, looks like hes got lots of confidence in the young lad being a big player for us this season and why not, he looked very impressive at the world cup and hes looked shit hot in pre season, the quality of his goals are fantastic which is most impressive, right foot, left foot, in the air, he looks a very rounded package for one so young.
Sounds very positive, Hernandez looks like being the ideal player to deploy in that lone striker role if you listen to Fergie there, and when Rooneys unavailable that solves a big problem as we so despertaly lacked that option last season.
Personaly im delighted Sir Alex is talking so positivly about Hernandez being right in and about the team from the get go, he mentions potential partnerships with Rooney as well as the ability to play Hernandez on his own, looks like hes got lots of confidence in the young lad being a big player for us this season and why not, he looked very impressive at the world cup and hes looked shit hot in pre season, the quality of his goals are fantastic which is most impressive, right foot, left foot, in the air, he looks a very rounded package for one so young.
well the big question is what will be his rating in fifa 11???
So are we all finally excited yet?
Or do we still think he's Manucho mk III?
Or do we still think he's Manucho mk III?
Will Real Madrid ask Hernandez to follow the footstep of Sanchez in a year's time?
Nah Diouf is the new Manucho, Cheech is the new messiah.
they are the evil empire aren't they?!
chicharito looks like a good kid, he doesnt strike me as the type who demand to be transfered if he does well at united.
New star signings: Javier Hernandez | The Sun |Features
A bit more on his background. He's clean living, he's dedicated and seems to be scandal free. Oh and there's a pic of him with his girlfriend as well.
A bit more on his background. He's clean living, he's dedicated and seems to be scandal free. Oh and there's a pic of him with his girlfriend as well.
A man can only dream of the third coming of Manucho.
An Arsenal supporting work colleague of mine (who ive had a £10 bet with on Hernandez outscoring Vela this season) insists to me that Carlos Vela is Mexico’s best player and much more highly rated than Hernandez in their home country, of course its rubbish as i dont remember hearing about billboards all over the country for Vela stating he has the hopes of a nation on his shoulders etc, but could someone clarify this once and for all? i don’t know if we have any Mexican posters on the caf or even Mexican football followers but out of Hernandez and Vela who is considered the superior talent in Mexico? From what ive heard Hernandez is seen as Mexicos best player full stop never mind better than Vela.
From what ive seen of Hernandez already he looks light-years ahead of Vela who always looks out of his depth whenever he plays in the Arsenal first team (in competitive matches) and was poor at the world cup.
From what ive seen of Hernandez already he looks light-years ahead of Vela who always looks out of his depth whenever he plays in the Arsenal first team (in competitive matches) and was poor at the world cup.
Was reading about him in the paper. Good character. Very much a family man.
Jesus, the expectations of the Mexicans on Hernandez is quite huge judging by that article. He seems to have handled it pretty well though, which is very good to see.
I know as much as you, but a year ago Hernandez wasn't that big in mexico. I think its fair to say that over the past year he's exploded and he seems the real deal unlike vela at the minute. I imagine they just want someone to crack Europe and it seems to me Hernandez is thought of as their shining light. He certainly looks a top striker and it makes you wonder why Hernandez wasn't let off the leash from the get go - easy to say in hindsight mind you
I'm sure Vela was thought of highly but he's not made a real impression on Arsenal and I think they just want someone to 'lead the way' as it were hence the Hernandez poster which suggests he's carrying their hopes on his sholders
There is at least one person who is Mexican and knows more about Chicha and might be able to speak to who is more highly rated.
From what I've been able to garner though when he broke into the national team last year, was when Mexico started to take notice. Before that he was doing great for Chivas and had a hero following there.
That he signed for United, did well in the WC (and anyone watching the WC would have noticed how much more emphasis was put on Chicha and being a United signing versus not much mention of Vela being an Arsenal player) really raised his profile.
Only 2 years ago he was thinking about quitting because of not breaking into the first team at Chivas from the interviews with his father/grandfather where they had a sit down with him to figure things out.
In all his rep sounds a little too perfect. With all the praise his way - seems to have handled it well. Lets see though once he is in the league and things don't go his way how he reacts.
From what I've been able to garner though when he broke into the national team last year, was when Mexico started to take notice. Before that he was doing great for Chivas and had a hero following there.
That he signed for United, did well in the WC (and anyone watching the WC would have noticed how much more emphasis was put on Chicha and being a United signing versus not much mention of Vela being an Arsenal player) really raised his profile.
Only 2 years ago he was thinking about quitting because of not breaking into the first team at Chivas from the interviews with his father/grandfather where they had a sit down with him to figure things out.
In all his rep sounds a little too perfect. With all the praise his way - seems to have handled it well. Lets see though once he is in the league and things don't go his way how he reacts.
Calm down with the praise... we'll see how good he is after he has a season under his belt...
Too much building up here, he could be set up for a long long fall if things aren't going as planned in his first season.
Too much building up here, he could be set up for a long long fall if things aren't going as planned in his first season.
no ones prasing him. Yet 
...We have berbatov and Owen..Kiko to help and we'll ease him in but really if he offers a threat from the get go there's little you can do. Alls ifs though right now.
...We have berbatov and Owen..Kiko to help and we'll ease him in but really if he offers a threat from the get go there's little you can do. Alls ifs though right now.i know i biased but I'd prefer seeing Hernandez up front (alongside Rooney that is) rather than other strikers.
Hernadeeeeeeeeeeeezzzz sounds so much better than Chicharitooooo
Some names sound awesome when they're being screamed by frantic commentators, Chicarito doesn't quite work.
Some names sound awesome when they're being screamed by frantic commentators, Chicarito doesn't quite work.
Chicharito works better than Hernandez, scoring a last minute winner and hearing Chicharitooooooooooooooooooooo!
Would sound like foreign commentators with the GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL. As opposed to sounding like a bee with the HernandeeZZZZZZZZZZZ.
Would sound like foreign commentators with the GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL. As opposed to sounding like a bee with the HernandeeZZZZZZZZZZZ.
It wouldnt be ZZZZ, any normal person would shout HernandEEEEEEEEEEz which sounds much better than Chicharito
But Chicharito with the same emphasis as this commentator uses for Simao Sabrosa could be brilliant..
chicha-RIto
Change his name to Solskjaer. Everybody's happy.
I think Vela came through as a young player, looked good in the Mexican league and was soon off to Arsenal. So he had very high stock at that time. Since going to Arsenal he's basically done feck all so far. Whereas Hernandez has only risen to prominance in the last year or so, at an older age and maybe doesnt have quite as much of a technical skillset as Vela... But the important part is he's a striker who scores goals and has shown in the world cup he's not goalshy on the big stage.
Vela has lost almost all his momentum and doesnt look likely at all to live up to the early hype, while Chicharito has loads of momentum and looks like he might live up to his hype. At the end of the day Arsenal are a club who are going to give young promising players a chance. If the player spends several years there and doesnt do much, he's probably not going to turn out all that good even if he does have potential. We'll see if Hernandez fairs better at United, but its hard to see how he could have as little an impact as Vela has had in his career in England so far.
Vela and Dos Santos were the stars of the u17 World Cup win for Mexico (when they beat Brazil 3-0 in the final) and hence their hype was from that Both moved to Europe before playing in Mexican football.
That and the following World Under 21 championships. Just like our own Anderson.
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I've missed all the excitement about Hernandez over the summer, so I'll say it now. How good does this boy look? Fergie looks to have pulled a proper master stroke, getting him in well before the World Cup when he was basically an unknown. I remember when we originally signed him and the consensus was that we were probably looking at another Manucho-type situation.
I read the transfer forums over the summer sometimes and I've got to say that it was fecking hilarious! You could tell some of the posters here were just gagging for it. A bit like a drunk at 1.50am in a club: stumbling and fumbling around, anyone will do. But haven't we basically pulled off a transfer muppet's wet-dream? A young centre forward, with pace to burn. He knows how to finish - as evidence by his two goals against big nations. And he has a fancy name.
And yet some people still say that we have been inactive in player transfer terms.
I read the transfer forums over the summer sometimes and I've got to say that it was fecking hilarious! You could tell some of the posters here were just gagging for it. A bit like a drunk at 1.50am in a club: stumbling and fumbling around, anyone will do. But haven't we basically pulled off a transfer muppet's wet-dream? A young centre forward, with pace to burn. He knows how to finish - as evidence by his two goals against big nations. And he has a fancy name.
And yet some people still say that we have been inactive in player transfer terms.
I'm hoping the lad will do well like everyone else, but I guess there also has to be a level of being realistic. It would be phenomenal if he had the same type of immediate, unexpected impact as Ole did, but those types of players don't come around all that often
The one thing we all don't want is a scoreless streak at the start of his United career a la Forlan, because if there's one thing that can drag a top quality player down to mediocrity, it's confidence or the lack of it thereof.
I think he could be a proper weapon for the last 20 minutes of games against tiring defences. That should probably be his role early on - without the pressure of starting too many games.
I see the Ole comparisons though - he's real composed in front of goal.
There are some very good signs that he can be a fantastic signing for us.
For me it will only take a few games to decide if he'll be a hit this season or not. If he can cope with the physicality of the league, then I think everything else about his game is quality.
If on the other hand he can't quite handle the PL at first, it will be a case of how can he adapt to the physical side of the game. Speed is obviously not an issue but, the rate that you get closed down at in the PL is incredible. Not sure how that compares to Mexican league, it certainly wasn't that high in the WC (imo).
Am excited at the idea of what he could do though with the players we have - his movement and speed seem built for some of our players. He has a good leap on him so could benefit from the crossing of our wingers.
Definitely won't be disappointed if he doesn't score 10+ goals if there are signs that he will grow into the team/league.
For me it will only take a few games to decide if he'll be a hit this season or not. If he can cope with the physicality of the league, then I think everything else about his game is quality.
If on the other hand he can't quite handle the PL at first, it will be a case of how can he adapt to the physical side of the game. Speed is obviously not an issue but, the rate that you get closed down at in the PL is incredible. Not sure how that compares to Mexican league, it certainly wasn't that high in the WC (imo).
Am excited at the idea of what he could do though with the players we have - his movement and speed seem built for some of our players. He has a good leap on him so could benefit from the crossing of our wingers.
Definitely won't be disappointed if he doesn't score 10+ goals if there are signs that he will grow into the team/league.
I'd be over joyed with 10 league goals from him.
He'll score 17 in all competitions.
I think this could be selling him short. Remember that Solskjaer took a while to establish himself as one of the first choice strikers rather than being a super sub off the bench. There is a possibility Hernandez can establish himself as a starter in his first season. And it wouldnt be wildly unexpected as unlike with Ole, he's proven himself at the world cup against teams with well known, experienced players playing at top clubs.
All depends how many games he gets. 10 league goals in about 25 starts would bem a good first season. If he does really well and gets about 30 starts we may see him manage to be our second top scorer this season.
Very Specific.
I don't see the comparison at all tbh.
From what I've seen in pre-season and the Mexican friendlies in the WC, he's not a very calm and composed finisher at all (e.g. missed two great chances in the Chivas game) but he is very good at finishing when he doesn't have time to think (e.g. goals against united/argentina)
I think he'll be one of those players who'll miss his fair share of chances but it won't matter because his great movement means that he won't be long waiting for his next chance.
More of an Andy Cole than an Ole, if you will.
I must say i do share your optimism regarding Hernandez, given the chances i can see him surprising many and getting a very good goal return, he seems to have a very all round game for one so young and the quality of his goals is whats impressed me most coupled with excellent off ball movement which normally you dont associate with young inexperianced players.
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