Javier 'Chicharito' Hernandez | West Ham player (there's an open thread in football forum)

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UnitedForever147 said:
Chicharito requires the perfect pass to get his goals and he wouldn't get many of those from our current squad. He was invisible in a lot of his games at United.
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No he doesn't. He can score with his butt, the back of his head and all sorts of goalmouth scrappy goals. His movement was excellent too.

I don't think anyone is advocating having him as a lone frontman leading the line, just as a different and very effective goal threat in games we dominate but can't get the ball to fecking go in.
 
I cant remember him doing much as an impact sub. When we really needed him to change the game he couldn't do it. Barely got a touch.
 
UnrelatedPsuedo said:
Anyone that wouldn't have Hernandez or someone like him as an option here is bananas. I'd have taken Defoe for the same reason. (Not next season for Defoe obviously).

5-10 starts a year. Masses of sub appearances. If he'd be happy with that little playing time of course he'd be good to have around. He's a clinical center forward that you could never build a team around. One dimensional and pretty much a single use instrument. But damn he knows where the net is.
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He left because he didn't want to sit on the bench. Got arsey about it on Twitter under Moyes.

Under Fergie he was happy to sit on the bench. But then again Fergie wouldn't have stood for his Twitter bollocks.

Also he's not as clinical as people make him out to be. I wouldn't want him back now. Leverkusen is the perfect level for him.
 
antohan said:
No he doesn't. He can score with his butt, the back of his head and all sorts of goalmouth scrappy goals. His movement was excellent too.
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Tut tut, how can you be so specific but fail to mention, 'also with his face'?

 
criticalanalysis said:
Tut tut, how can you be so specific but fail to mention, 'also with his face'?

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Clear case of trying to assist himself to scoring a goal.
Assist - Chicharito right leg
Goal - Chicharito header

On a serious note, he's not welcome here anymore. We need someone whose a lot more potent than Chicharito. He was never a 90min player for United. He was more of an impact sub.
 
Bojan11 said:
He left because he didn't want to sit on the bench. Got arsey about it on Twitter under Moyes.

Under Fergie he was happy to sit on the bench. But then again Fergie wouldn't have stood for his Twitter bollocks.

Also he's not as clinical as people make him out to be. I wouldn't want him back now. Leverkusen is the perfect level for him.
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Wasn't he told he had a 1% chance of playing?
 
beingshe7don said:
Clear case of trying to assist himself to scoring a goal.
Assist - Chicharito right leg
Goal - Chicharito header

On a serious note, he's not welcome here anymore. We need someone whose a lot more potent than Chicharito. He was never a 90min player for United. He was more of an impact sub.
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On one page we have you saying only an impact sub and another saying he wasn't even an impact sub.

He scored a goal every 130 minutes of goal time. Currently 5th in league history.
 
Bojan11 said:
He left because he didn't want to sit on the bench. Got arsey about it on Twitter under Moyes.

Under Fergie he was happy to sit on the bench. But then again Fergie wouldn't have stood for his Twitter bollocks.

Also he's not as clinical as people make him out to be. I wouldn't want him back now. Leverkusen is the perfect level for him.
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He's more clinical than anyone at the club. He'd be a better option than anyone we have as a plan b, coming off the bench.

I'm not saying we should sign him but we can't pretend that having a natural goalscorer on the bench, chipping in with 10 goals a season, is a bad thing.
 
I think Mourinho meant he would not have sold him if he were already here.

I doubt he would actively go out and buy him now, however.
 
Sterling Archer said:
I think Mourinho meant he would not have sold him if he were already here.
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That's probably what he meant and also to have a dig at LVG but he has spoken well of Chicharito in previously; like when he was Real Madrid manager and later when he was at Chelsea.
 
beingshe7don said:
On a serious note, he's not welcome here anymore. We need someone whose a lot more potent than Chicharito. He was never a 90min player for United. He was more of an impact sub.
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The impact sub tag was made up by the media which wanted to have Rooney as the undisputed main striker when Moyes came in. SAF used him at times as an impact sub once we had RVP, but the prior seasons he also had Chicha starting many games as a second striker and as the main striker at times.
 
senorgregster said:
On one page we have you saying only an impact sub and another saying he wasn't even an impact sub.

He scored a goal every 130 minutes of goal time. Currently 5th in league history.
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I've always had my stand that he was a super sub. He was very similar to Solskjaer in that aspect. I don't know what you're refering to.
 
manunited1919 said:
The impact sub tag was made up by the media which wanted to have Rooney as the undisputed main striker when Moyes came in. SAF used him at times as an impact sub once we had RVP, but the prior seasons he also had Chicha starting many games as a second striker and as the main striker at times.
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I dunno if that was painted by the media but he did most of his damage when he came of the bench. The point I'm trying to make is that we need an "RVP" in our team and not a "Chicharito" specifically. We need someone who will guarantee 20 goals in the league every season.
 
UnitedForever147 said:
Chicharito requires the perfect pass to get his goals and he wouldn't get many of those from our current squad. He was invisible in a lot of his games at United.
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one of the most bizarre posts I have ever seen. Hernandez requires the complete opposite.
 
beingshe7don said:
I dunno if that was painted by the media but he did most of his damage when he came of the bench. The point I'm trying to make is that we need an "RVP" in our team and not a "Chicharito" specifically. We need someone who will guarantee 20 goals in the league every season.
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I think we need both an "RVP" player and a "Chicharito" player. And if we can get Chicha back for a reasonable fee, why not?
 
manunited1919 said:
I think we need both an "RVP" player and a "Chicharito" player. And if we can get Chicha back for a reasonable fee, why not?
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Chicharito will be 29 this year and unless we can get him for 5-7M, I wouldn't want to have him back. He's already playing regular football in Germany. Why would he come back to warm the bench?
 
beingshe7don said:
I've always had my stand that he was a super sub. He was very similar to Solskjaer in that aspect. I don't know what you're refering to.
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I agree with you. But a few posts before yours was saying he wasn't even a super sub. He seems to divide fans even though he's a proven goalscorer. In reality, i don't think he was given a real chance as a starter and we'll never know.
 
beingshe7don said:
Chicharito will be 29 this year and unless we can get him for 5-7M, I wouldn't want to have him back. He's already playing regular football in Germany. Why would he come back to warm the bench?
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Because with United he can win titles. In Germany, he will be mostly in a mid table team.
 
beingshe7don said:
Chicharito will be 29 this year and unless we can get him for 5-7M, I wouldn't want to have him back. He's already playing regular football in Germany. Why would he come back to warm the bench?
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When people (CAF) are even considering paying 85-120m for Mbappe, I would rather bring in Chicha for under 20m, all day long. He is 28, get him a 4-5 year deal, sell him to MLS 3 years down the road. Moneywise it makes sense, and from a football perspective it would work.

Whether or not he would want to come, that depends what Jose tells him. He does know the EPL, and love the club.
 
manunited1919 said:
When people (CAF) are even considering paying 85-120m for Mbappe, I would rather bring in Chicha for under 20m, all day long. He is 28, get him a 4-5 year deal, sell him to MLS 3 years down the road. Moneywise it makes sense, and from a football perspective it would work.

Whether or not he would want to come, that depends what Jose tells him. He does know the EPL, and love the club.
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And Jose had very good words about him recently.

Chicha is the type of player who can help us improve the conversion of our chances inside the box.
 
UnitedForever147 said:
I cant remember him doing much as an impact sub. When we really needed him to change the game he couldn't do it. Barely got a touch.
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I would have to disagree with that. He was very good coming on as an impact sub. So much so that he gained the tag, and plenty of people (and media) were wanting him at times to not start games as he was viewed as only good as an impact sub.
 
antohan said:
No he doesn't. He can score with his butt, the back of his head and all sorts of goalmouth scrappy goals. His movement was excellent too.
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:lol:
I think one of the best poachers around, a fox in the box - exactly what we need.
criticalanalysis said:
Tut tut, how can you be so specific but fail to mention, 'also with his face'?

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That was also his first goal for United iirc.
 
Hernandez would start in the current United side. He's better than Rashford is at the moment. He's a no brainer if he wants to come be a squad player.
 
Bwuk said:
Hernandez would start in the current United side. He's better than Rashford is at the moment. He's a no brainer if he wants to come be a squad player.
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Since Zlatan got injured yeah he would start. Rashford has started many games because he can play in the left.
 
UnitedForever147 said:
Chicharito requires the perfect pass to get his goals and he wouldn't get many of those from our current squad. He was invisible in a lot of his games at United.
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UnitedForever147 said:
I cant remember him doing much as an impact sub. When we really needed him to change the game he couldn't do it. Barely got a touch.
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Who are you talking about?

This thread is about Hernandez, you know the little Mexican guy who's a great goal poacher and can score all different types of goals. Many of them were scored coming off the bench also. Ring a bell?
 
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Come back little pea, we miss you. :(
Selling Chicharito was quite a mistake in hindsight, we could really do with a goal poacher like him right now. I'm pretty sure with the number of chances we create, he can score at least 15 goals in the league and 20 goals in all competition for us this season.
 
We could easily buy him back this summer. Jose rates him and he'd be a great in support of Rashford and Griezmann. Wouldn't cost much either.
 
Raoul said:
We could easily buy him back this summer. Jose rates him and he'd be a great in support of Rashford and Griezmann. Wouldn't cost much either.
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I would definitely be in favour of this.
 
UnitedForever147 said:
Chicharito requires the perfect pass to get his goals and he wouldn't get many of those from our current squad. He was invisible in a lot of his games at United.
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That's not the Hernandez I remember, nor is it the player Mourinho described. In fact it's almost the exact opposite.
 
Yes bring him back...I'm a massive fan of his and always was....shafted out by a terrible manager and I can imagine he'd be open to the idea of coming back...
 
He'd be back to being a substitute though, which he doesn't want. I'd have him back in a heartbeat though.
 
Every time a player of ours goes 1 on 1, I don't even get excited because I expect them to miss. Happened a few times today. This would change of we had Hernandez. He would have had a field day today and against Anderlecht.
 
Dirty Schwein said:
Every time a player of ours goes 1 on 1, I don't even get excited because I expect them to miss. Happened a few times today. This would change of we had Hernandez. He would have had a field day today and against Anderlecht.
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He also developed a bad habit of missing sitters for the last couple of seasons he was with us.
 
Remember his back header against stoke? Oh man, do I miss this guy:(
 
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