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Javier 'Chicharito' Hernandez | West Ham player (there's an open thread in football forum)
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And the third was a hat trick against Liverpool...
Yeah i'm aware, that Hat-rick was great. His best game in a United shirt. Pity he tailed off that year. Think he only scored one or two after january.
One trick pony. Nice while it lasted, hasn't shown enough in recent it time to make me want him back.
The hardest trick in the game. He went for £7m and within a year Watford were turning down £30m for garbage like Troy Deeney.
I didn't say that we didn't sell him for a stupidly low fee, and I do think we should have retained him - however I don't see the value in buying him back unless it was for ~the 7 Million we sold him for. When he was with us he showed he was a true poacher... who had to have creativity around him to make his game work. He had a good season and a half since he left us, but has not kicked on in any way in recent times, arguably regressing.
I totally agree that the prices for even average players this summer is just shocking - some of the quoted prices are eye-watering to a (semi) oldie like myself.
Whereas he hasn't shown blistering form or goal scoring ability, I'm sure most would agree; we need squad players, and that is exactly what he is capable of being, a great squad player, not to mention his unorthodox ability to score goals.
It's something we are missing in this united squad, diversity in front of goal. (Something that zlatan brought to us this season)
It's something we are missing in this united squad, diversity in front of goal. (Something that zlatan brought to us this season)
It still annoys me to think about the look LvG and Giggs exchanged when he slipped over taking that penalty. As if to say, this guy is crap; we need to get rid ASAP. His time here as a third-choice striker was largely excellent and I've no doubt we'd have scored at least 10 more league goals last season if we had him as an option off the bench. Might have hampered Rashford to be fair, but it's not as if we've prioritised him as just a central striker.
Is it really?
Undeniably. That's why goalscorers cost more than defenders and midfielders do.
Baby faced Assassin #2.
Whereas he hasn't shown blistering form or goal scoring ability, I'm sure most would agree; we need squad players, and that is exactly what he is capable of being, a great squad player, not to mention his unorthodox ability to score goals.
It's something we are missing in this united squad, diversity in front of goal. (Something that zlatan brought to us this season)
I honestly have never seen anything remotely close to that crazy backward header.
One trick pony? what? His one trick was scoring goals, some fecking pony he was.
In a very creative team he will flourish and score goals if he has his confidence, but in my view he always needed two quick wingers and a forward behind him to set him up. Yes he is a classic goal poacher who comes alive in the box, which I'm not saying isn't great... but if he didn't get decent service, what did he do? He never really dropped deep to get involved, never really made super creative runs outside the area, didn't beat people with the ball at his feet - in this was he was/is very one dimensional in that outside the box, or if he was shut down, he didn't contribute that much.
He also goes on pronounced 'hot and cold' streaks, independent of the team he is playing in - 2014/2015 he went for 5 months or so without scoring, he is on a similar bad run now.
Yes I'd want him back in the squad as we need a finisher. No I wouldn't break the bank to make it happen as I think that there are more well rounded players out there for the same money.
I always get tired to read that kind of statements because that means that you haven't seen him play in a while. Watch the latest games of Mexico and you will see Chico dropping a lot so he can creat space for others to run to. How he played back then I believe it was Fergies choice, probably because Chico at the time was really slim and there was Wazza who tended to drop a lot, maybe that's why Chico+Rooney were a better partnership than Berba+Rooney. I reckon that we shouldn't break the market for him, but I do believe that he can be the leading man for Man Utd.
I've seen him a bit, and he has hasn't looked great. I followed the BL from about Jan until the end of the season, and he had a goal drought from ~Feb until the last day of the season and from what I saw, looked pretty out of touch. Yes Leverkusen have been vert underwhelming this season, but this is when true class players come to the fore to lift those around them.
To be fair, I've not followed the Mexico games so maybe he's looked better there.
I honestly have never seen anything remotely close to that crazy backward header.
Shame we sold him. think we could have really done with him last season where we desperately lacked the clinical edge in front of goal and were over-reliant on Ibrahimovic.
Although, Ibra more or less started most matches and was rarely substituted iirc. A forward duo (at times) could have worked a treat although it isn't one of Mourinho's favoured formations.
Like Messi lifting up Argentina?? If he looked out of touch it was because Schmidt lost the plot in the team, and then they hired another manager who was clueless. With Mexico he is playing really well, and I believe Mourinho would know how to get the best out of Chico.
The real problem with Chico's development here at United was Welbeck (I really hate that guy). Welbeck was useless in front of goal, but beacuse he was english he get a lot of playing time in detriment of Chico. Then Fergie goes and things got worse with the "beloved" Moyes. If United get's a power forward like RVP was back in the day, Martial would be dead seeing no light in the forward possition because of Rashford. It's better to get someone that will not be a lot of a threat to the development of both, Martial and Rashford.
Damn I wish he'd come back to United
If we are getting him it wont be to lead the line as our #1 striker. For a backup striker his skills are great. His nose for goal is quite a skill.
can't believe we are missing out on bringing him back.
Guaranteed 15-20 goals a season for £13 million in 2017 is mental.
Guaranteed 15-20 goals a season for £13 million in 2017 is mental.
His overall game development has come on from when he was last at United. I do feel like he has more to contribute, offensively, than he used to. I sure as heck miss him for his eye for goal. I recall Ole Solskjaer developing his overall game and playing less centre-forward and more on the wide positions, however, Ole had a generally superior technique than Javier.
Interesting point. Should he sign for West Ham, he'd line up against us on the first game of the season.
Interesting point. Should he sign for West Ham, he'd line up against us on the first game of the season.
We need to hijack this deal.
No thanks.
Actually it is not guaranteed, more like at best a 50% chance he will score 15 or more isn't it?
I honestly do not know why a club like Spurs has not come in for Hernandez. Would be a great back up for Kane
He's too good to be a back up striker at Spurs.
to be fair Son did a fantastic job for Spurs last season even when Kane was injured he scored alot of goals and more importantly he has a knack of scoring in the big matches.
My mate in the January transfer window was suggesting United go in for him, reckons he's the best korean player since Ji Sung Park.
He doesn't want to be a back up and he's not good enough to be a starter for a top club.
He's so great he's about to sign for West Ham.
While none of us know Hernandez, we do know that at least part of the reason he left was because he was looking to be a starter not a back-up/super sub. I would think heading into a World Cup year that has not changed, but that is only conjecture on my part. But it does call into question the idea of us or any other club signing him to be a back-up.
I think that's exactly his level.
There really isn't a player who seeks to become a backup player, or at least the majority of players who have a bit of ambition, but I wouldn't consider a bad move for him to return to United, or any other top 4 club in England even if he isn't guaranteed to be an starter. As long as he has game time and is given a fair chance to contribute for the team I think it should be enough to persuade him. He might lose some spotlight but in return he would be playing in a stronger team with better teammates.
Think Hernandez would be great if he'd be happy here as a squad player.
Can fully understand him wanting to be a starter somewhere else though.
Can fully understand him wanting to be a starter somewhere else though.
It's a world cup year, fully understandable why he wants first team game time.
For all his inconsistent link up play. Chicharito_s movement has always been world class. I m looking forward to his EPL retufn
Because he doesn't fancy sitting on someone's bench being cast as a 'super sub'. "Solksjaering' isn't for every one....
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