Jasper Cillessen | Barcelona player

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Van Piorsing said:
Point taken but why would we conform in the incomplete keeper if we can aim higher and get the full package ? The penalty shootout against Chelsea in Moscow could drag out longer if Van der Sar wouldn't kill the game with stopping Anelka. Yes, Terry slipped and we used that against him and that mentally destroyed him and his team who had high fighting spirit that day, one of the toughest player in the toughest league. Terry and Ronaldo both cried from different reasons after that save which seems like some people want shove under the carpet like it didn't had impact after all.
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Of course, if we can get a complete keeper we should do it, but I would always take someone like VDS, instead of someone with less quality, but who is good at penalties. I do understand that Cillessen isn't as good as VDS so in that case penalties make a bigger difference, but I only wanted to say that penalties are the last thing we should be looking at, but of course it has to be a good keeper for the game we want to play and what I could understand from the posts @NL Max wrote, I wouldn't be to disappointed if we would get him (I wouldn't be to happy :D, but I'll be OK with that).
 
'Every day during my holiday on Lanzarot and Curacao I'd pick up something linking me to Manchester United. Only by the media though, I haven't heard anything concrete from my agent or club so I'm just completely focussing on Ajax, especially with the CL qualifiers this close.'
 
Sky reporting it again. Think he's the the guy if De Gea goes. Romero looks the man if Valdes goes.
 
Scouting him for an another year and then signing him won't be the worst decision ever.

We should keep De Gea at all costs this season IMO. With Schneiderlin/Schweinsteiger as No.6, Darmian as right back and Otamendi/someone else as VB we already will have 3 new players in defense. 3/6 is already too much, so if we change the keeper too it will be 4/6 and it can be a disaster for the first few months.
 
Still hoping this is another case of him being Dutch and the media putting 2 and 2 together and getting 5, he is such a massive downgrade on De Gea in every way.
 
Buy a fecking proper GK for £30m if we have to if DDG leaves. I don't want any of Cillessen, Romero, Schmeichel or Lindegaard starting as our #1 for the year.
 
Loublaze said:
His handling is excellent, his footwork is above average for a goalie and he's just as good as De Gea in that respect, his distribution is also good and fits in very well with LVG's need for a GK that can start play from the back. He's a very capable shot stopper and he has a lot of upper body strength, something he's wrongly accused of not having going on his looks and his build, basically nothing

Some of the saves in this compilation video are De Gea-like. He clearly knows about playing with a bad defence lol



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There are some decent stops in here (it does demonstrate that he's very good at 1 vs.1's ) - but there are no saves in here that even remotely compare to some of the stuff that DDG was pulling out last season.
 
Annihilate Now! said:
There are some decent stops in here (it does demonstrate that he's very good at 1 vs.1's ) - but there are no saves in here that even remotely compare to some of the stuff that DDG was pulling out last season.
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Iniesta save is as good as any.

Cillessen ins't De Gea (and I doubt that he'll ever be as good as De Gea was last season), but he is a very good keeper IMO. I hope that we'll go either for Leno or for him (maybe both?).
 
Lets be honest, people don't like him because he was subbed for a penalty shootout, and he's not a 'name'.

I bet 95% of people moaning about him have never seen him play (outside the WC last year).
 
Sam said:
Lets be honest, people don't like him because he was subbed for a penalty shootout, and he's not a 'name'.

I bet 95% of people moaning about him have never seen him play (outside the WC last year).
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Some also don't like him because apparently he looks 'weak'
 
Revan said:
Iniesta save is as good as any.

Cillessen ins't De Gea (and I doubt that he'll ever be as good as De Gea was last season), but he is a very good keeper IMO. I hope that we'll go either for Leno or for him (maybe both?).
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It's a one on one - which I said, he seems to very good at in terms of making himself big/commiting at the right time etc.

De Gea-like saves would be incredible reaches/shows of agility to shots from anywhere and everywhere that seem impossible to keep out.

Sam said:
Lets be honest, people don't like him because he was subbed for a penalty shootout, and he's not a 'name'.

I bet 95% of people moaning about him have never seen him play (outside the WC last year).
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I don't really get this argument... the World Cup (and the CL) is as good a place as any to judge a player.
 
Annihilate Now! said:
I don't really get this argument... the World Cup (and the CL) is as good a place as any to judge a player.
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From what I remember, he had a good world cup. Certainly didn't look like this shower of shite that some are painting him as.

But judging a player on one WC is not a great barometer of how good a player actually is. Plenty of great players have had bad world cups (Ronaldo anyone?) and vice versa.
 
Sam said:
From what I remember, he had a good world cup. Certainly didn't look like this shower of shite that some are painting him as.

But judging a player on one WC is not a great barometer of how good a player actually is. Plenty of great players have had bad world cups (Ronaldo anyone?) and vice versa.
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Yeah, but you can get a decent barometer of what someones skill sets are... also, with someone like Cillessen, the WC/CL are easily the highest level he's played at so far / the highest pressure situation he's been in so far.

I personally thought he had an average WC, with times where he looked very shaky/didn't inspire confidence. He also looked like he was on the verge of crying at any given moment quite often... though that might just be his face.
 
This window will be awesome if we don't sign this average goalkeeper, not even as no2. Maybe it could be a good fight for no1 with Johnstone who has more potential and already looks comfortable having been loaned and played in English league for two years now
 
Seeing a player a dozen times across a season is plenty to form an opinion of said player, this whole idea that anyone that doesn't rate him hasn't seen him much or doesn't rate him because he looks soft is ridiculous, the amount of football on TV these days gives vast access.
 
Pogue Mahone said:
I thought he was as one of the better keepers in the World Cup. That's neither here nor there though. Ospina looked amazing in the WC and he's a bit shite.
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Ospina's great goalkeeper, he had fantastic WC, last year and Copa performances. He's not top tier though due to his height. I kinda felt for him after Arsenal signed Cech
 
m1y2 said:
Ospina's great goalkeeper, he had fantastic WC, last year and Copa performances. He's not top tier though due to his height. I kinda felt for him after Arsenal signed Cech
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I wouldn't say he's great. If he was great Arsenal wouldn't need to sign Cech. De Gea is great, Ospina is a 6/10 keeper at this level. Good shot stopper just like Navas and Bravo (both world cup heroes for their countries) but limited in other areas. All of them are not commanding enough in the air maybe due to their respective heights and none are good enough to be number one at United
 
Tbh LvG and his goalkeeping coach know Cillessen and his character/ability very well and will know if he's able to step up. He's not the big game many may want but may be a excellent signing.
 
FC Ronaldo said:
Sky reporting it again. Think he's the the guy if De Gea goes. Romero looks the man if Valdes goes.
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I would agree.

I haven't seen enough of Cillessen to provide an insight but given van Gaal has worked with both before, he must think they're up to it.
 
Sam said:
Lets be honest, people don't like him because he was subbed for a penalty shootout, and he's not a 'name'.

I bet 95% of people moaning about him have never seen him play (outside the WC last year).
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I'd never heard of him before holland's first World Cup game and I think that is terrible that Holland had an unknown in goal.
 
Sky just translated an VI interview with de Boer, I'm certain we haven't made an offer since Cillessen played in a friendly. De Boer said it would be hard for Ajax to turn an offer from us down if we called, nothing more. Wouldn't see this as a done deal yet.

AKDevil said:
I'd never heard of him before holland's first World Cup game and I think that is terrible that Holland had an unknown in goal.
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He only became a starter at Ajax half a year before the WC, that meant Vermeer was benched at Ajax and therefore lost his place to Cillessen at the NT because lack of match rhythm.
 
Worse than Taibi. But it's inevitable he is signing now unfortunately. Hopefully LvG drops him when he starts costing us points.
 
Loublaze said:
I wouldn't say he's great. If he was great Arsenal wouldn't need to sign Cech. De Gea is great, Ospina is a 6/10 keeper at this level. Good shot stopper just like Navas and Bravo (both world cup heroes for their countries) but limited in other areas. All of them are not commanding enough in the air maybe due to their respective heights and none are good enough to be number one at United
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never said he could be a good fit for us, just said that he is quality goalkeeper having a wonderful season and deserved to start ieven for team like Arsenal. He's short though so he will never reach that top tier which big goalies like Cech will
 
LawCharltonBest said:
Worse than Taibi. But it's inevitable he is signing now unfortunately. Hopefully LvG drops him when he starts costing us points.
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Writing his obituary here before he's even signed, or before we even know for certain there is even concrete interest...
He's looked alright when I've seen him play in the WC and some Dutch national team games shown on Mutv,

I don't know if he's anything special or not from what I've seen but if LvG & his GK'ing coach like him then.. we'll give him the benefit of the doubt.
 
LawCharltonBest said:
Worse than Taibi. But it's inevitable he is signing now unfortunately. Hopefully LvG drops him when he starts costing us points.
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Hyperbole.

He's not even known for having howlers so what are you basing this harsh criticism on? He was the Dutch leagues best GK last season.
 
m1y2 said:
never said he could be a good fit for us, just said that he is quality goalkeeper having a wonderful season and deserved to start ieven for team like Arsenal. He's short though so he will never reach that top tier which big goalies like Cech will
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I prefer a tall GK myself at United, but there have been 6 ft keepers in the past who have achieved greatness.
 
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Going from de gea and Valdes to cillessen and Romero is a big step backwards, both are pretty average keepers and would be second choice at a lot of premier league clubs, third choice at Chelsea or even arsenal. Either would be fine as a backup but that's about it, we could end up signing few replacements for de gea before we find the right one.
 
Roboc7 said:
Going from de gea and Valdes to cillessen and Romero is a big step backwards, both are pretty average keepers and would be second choice at a lot of premier league clubs, third choice at Chelsea or even arsenal. Either would be fine as a backup but that's about it, we could end up signing few replacements for de gea before we find the right one.
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Who should we be looking at?
 
BennyBlanco said:
Writing his obituary here before he's even signed, or before we even know for certain there is even concrete interest...
He's looked alright when I've seen him play in the WC and some Dutch national team games shown on Mutv,

I don't know if he's anything special or not from what I've seen but if LvG & his GK'ing coach like him then.. we'll give him the benefit of the doubt.
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Loublaze said:
Hyperbole.

He's not even known for having howlers so what are you basing this harsh criticism on? He was the Dutch leagues best GK last season.
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Hope I'm wrong guys. I just know I won't be.
 
Loublaze said:
I prefer a tall GK myself at United, but there have been 6 ft keepers in the past who have achieved greatness.
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yeah but looking at the current top three de Gea, Neuer, Curtois, it's save to say that bit of height and athleticism is quite needed to reach the very top these days.

I kinda like Barthez for a while but he was not top goalie..
 
m1y2 said:
never said he could be a good fit for us, just said that he is quality goalkeeper having a wonderful season and deserved to start ieven for team like Arsenal. He's short though so he will never reach that top tier which big goalies like Cech will
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I think thats a poor argument. Cillessen is crap and I will argue that until he proves me wrong, but the height has nothing to do with it. Cillessen is the exact same height as Oliver Kahn.
 
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