This makes a lot more sense, but we can get De Ligt now by the looks of it but we're stalling as he's "decent". We could probably get more for Maggs, but he'd be the much better option to keep than Lindelof who's gone under the radar for how poor he is.
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This makes a lot more sense, but we can get De Ligt now by the looks of it but we're stalling as he's "decent". We could probably get more for Maggs, but he'd be the much better option to keep than Lindelof who's gone under the radar for how poor he is.
Don't think Maguire wants to leave. I wouldn't mind keeping Charlie Sheen as he improved this past season, but we need money!
I'd rather keep him and Lindelof if Banthwaite is their replacement. If we sign him for big money it's a sign nothing has changed, which is becoming a bigger elephant in the room as time goes on.
IF and it's still an enormous one we got Yoro then presume we will sell Lindelof and go for backup LCB
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So got a bit bored and did a bit of digging into the ages of starting CBs in the PL.
I think I might have changed my mind a bit on Branthwaite.
I think I might have changed my mind a bit on Branthwaite.
Good way or a bad way?
I hope that next time Everton comes knocking out doors we ask for full market value for each and every player. They got some great bargains from us in the past.
Yeah, the bastards! Like Donny....well OK, not Donny. But Schneiderlin!! Or not him, you know, but.....
Phil Neville, english international sold for peanuts. Howard was an excellent keeper for them. Garner is another one.
We are apparently looking for a left footed CB who can also play LB, maybe Castello Lukeba of RBL might be an option as he fits that description and is only 20 with the pitential to be a really good player.
Full market value + some arbitrary mark up just for Everton because that's our too good to walk away price.
You sell low and buy high from everyone.
We need to learn from that. A discount should be given to friends. That always help in football when friendship is mutual. Everton had made it obvious that they are not friends
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Oh come on Devilish. I'm joking. You forgot Tim Howard.
So nothing in these links to an actual LB then
Shouldnt be a priority this summer if and thats a big if we can get Shaw and Malacia fully fit again.
Bunch of wankers, those guys
Football is a business at the end of the day.
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Good way. I don’t want us spending stupid on him but when you consider his age and physical profile I can see why Everton are holding out for a lot more.
He’s probably the best U21 CB in the PL at the moment (I’m classing Gvardiol more as a LB).
It’s incredibly rare to have a player his age be a starter for a PL side at CB.
3rd bid?
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It makes sense to go one last time for him and then be done.
We know we can enter the region of ~£50m but how far beyond that we go is important in how INEOS is viewed but also how we can allocate funds for other deals too.
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business can be mutual beneficial. Parma and Juventus for example had always made sure to keep things cordial between the two with Juventus getting Parma talent at reasonable prices while Parma getting some great bargains. It worked for both clubs. United seem to have had something similar with Everton. I remember SAF saying that United could have made more money out of Phil Neville but he nudged him to Everton because its a good club who always treated United fairly. I don't think that asking 70m for Jarrad can be considered as so.
United will always shed decent talent. It might be down to talent (playing for United require a high level of talent), character or it could be simply down to luck/patience. It takes little for the club to divert transfers and loans to a friendlier club and with the U18s doing so well, I do wonder if its a good idea irking such a club. We might as well sell our next Garner, Phil and Howard on the cheap to clubs who are competing against you for that EPL spot.
business can be mutual beneficial. Parma and Juventus for example had always made sure to keep things cordial between the two with Juventus getting Parma talent at reasonable prices while Parma getting some great bargains. It worked for both clubs. United seem to have had something similar with Everton. I remember SAF saying that United could have made more money out of Phil Neville but he nudged him to Everton because its a good club who always treated United fairly. I don't think that asking 70m for Jarrad can be considered as so.
United will always shed decent talent. It might be down to talent (playing for United require a high level of talent), character or it could be simply down to luck/patience. It takes little for the club to divert transfers and loans to a friendlier club and with the U18s doing so well, I do wonder if its a good idea irking such a club. We might as well sell our next Garner, Phil and Howard on the cheap to clubs who are competing against you for that EPL spot.
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We don't want to sell him though and he's not pushing to leave as of yet. Players we have bought you've wanted to sell or wanted to leave.
Reckon around 60 with 5 addons is what Everton likely consider and 55 with 10 what the club will offer.
He had agreed personal terms so we both know that he wants to leave. Don't take me wrong Everton is free to ask whatever they want for their player as much as United are free to conduct their sales the way they wish. You might believe that business always reign supreme in terms of transfers but it does not. Fingers do get burnt at times even at the highest level. Walker would have sold Shearer to anyone but us and at the time we were the Real Madrid of the UK. I bet it would be easier for Manchester United to divert our wantaway talent away from Everton and to a rival club if we want to.
No, that doesn't mean a player wants to leave.
That's basically capitulating to Everton demands. They said 70M and we're offering 65M.
If he doesn't want to leave then he wouldn't agree personal terms. He'll just say that he's got a long term contract with Everton and he's not even entertaining the idea of leaving. He might not break the manager's door to get his move but that doesn't mean that he doesn't want to go.
Wanting to leave and being open to leaving are two different things.
The good sources have indicated he's happy at Everton and hasn't indicated that he wants to leave.
True but I reckon it's give and take in the ball park for negotiations given they have sold Onana.
Additionally 65 million (including add-ons) is closer to a Stones / Ben White proposition compared to Maguire / Gvardiol which Everton have referenced as market value. Everton in such instances compromise 5 million and if the term of payments is amalgamated over a period of time it's beneficial for FFP.
Objectively getting De Ligt for 42 million would be a player below perceived market value which is a good deal, overpaying marginally for Jarrad under those conditions is reasonable for me.
That's in region of 107 m for two defenders (53.5 per player) one's an established center half whose still young but has a plethora of experience and the other's a domestic promising prospect with league experience.
I'm with you, the extra 5-10m won't make or break the club. It'll go from a reasonable deal to paid a bit too much.
The meltdown from the anti-INEOS, nothing has changed people will be something to behold and the resident Everton fans will do a victory lap. Only downside the club might actually suffer from this is some reputation damage for giving in to Everton's demands.
I think we need to remind Everton that when they were at their lowest, when they were most in need of a friend, we sent them Donny. Gratis. We’re calling in the favour.
Buying Branthwaite for any more than 40M is doing them a massive favour.
Christ man how often are you going to repeat yourself in this thread ?
It's a discussion forum. If people are misinformed, I'll try to inform them.
If you don't like it, don't read it and stop being a baby.
I think £60m should get this done and that’s a fair price
It’s not a repetition forum though, at least stop copying & pasting your sentences
. You’re usually a sensible poster but you’ve dropped the ball in this thread. Also, don’t play the “ I know more than anyone else card” because you don’t. We’ve all read the same reports.I haven't really watched Everton and payed attention to Branthwaite, but I've seen a youtube analysis of his game and he seems like a pretty average PL defender.
He's pretty sloppy on the ball from what I've seen, which is not good for a modern CB. Don't understand why we are pursuing him. He's worth like half the price Everton wants. Paying 50m+ pounds for him is silly. I think he's not even better than Maguire.
He's pretty sloppy on the ball from what I've seen, which is not good for a modern CB. Don't understand why we are pursuing him. He's worth like half the price Everton wants. Paying 50m+ pounds for him is silly. I think he's not even better than Maguire.
I don't think I have. I think I've been pretty level headed and tried to deal with the facts.It’s not a repetition forum though, at least stop copying & pasting your sentences
Unfortunately not every poster reads through a thread so will bring up things which aren't the case that have already been discussed so to inform them, things will get repeated. Again, if that bothers you then you can just not read it.
Based on what? One season for a crap PL team, where he did well. Not incredible but well. He’s massively overpriced at that. We should’ve walked away after the first bid was rejected.