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Jarrad Branthwaite
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Let them have their five minutes, relegation battles in a few years for the silly cnuts.
I can't say I've seen much of Lukeba, but they signed him for €30m only a year ago, have lost Xavi Simons, and look set to lose Olmo as well. In that context, I'm not sure I'd expect Leipzig to be particularly accommodating about weakening their side further.
The last I was reading on Diomande, Sporting wanted to keep him another year and may well point to his release clause (£68m). But I'd be all for having a go there. Very comfortable defending his channel and good on the ball.
Not at all. Buying the best from PL is the best way. But spending big on average and overrated dross is wrong.
Spending big (even overpay) on elite players like Kane or Isak is great but spending big on average dross like Maguire or Branthwaite is completely wrong.
I thought that we learned our lesson with Awb and Maguire.
He should threaten to quit training and throw some chairs around. Old school but effective
Piero Hincapie from Leverkusen is another player who potentially would be a good fit on the left and he's good at both passing out from the back as well as carrying the ball forward. At 22 years of age, he's another very good option.
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Ah yes forgot about Guehi
If he works hard do we reckon he could reach a similar level to Maguire at his best?
It's stupid really, english players are overpriced and overhyped, We do not need to buy English players to be successful, as far as the rule of homegrown players concerned, we cover that very well with our academy players.
Hope this makes us walk away. Everton fans seem to think he’s the second coming of Bobby Moore. If he’s as good as they think then he’ll still be available for 80m next summer or the one after won’t he? Especially considering there’s a half decent chance that in one of those summers they get relegated.
I desperately hope we drop it. Had a little look at stats earlier (not that they are the best all and end all) but they point to him being a country mile behind the player Harry Maguire was when we signed him.
Maguire is better than him right now, not only when we signed him.
Nah. He’d eat it to save the soles of his feet.
God I hope so.
He’ll be lots better at things that Maguire wasn’t good at. But he’d do well to be as good as Maguire at his best at the things Harry excelled at.
For all his faults, Maguire was a top level (for his generation) one vs one defender, great in both penalty boxes and largely impeccable in the defensive third. All his limitations came through his lack of pace. The fella could pass and break through loose lines with a 15 yard ball carry. It’s just a shame that United never gave him the perfect partner, and that his peak was very short. Football changed quite a lot, very fast between Maguire at Leicester and his first two seasons at United. He didn’t adapt and his lack of 10 yard pace killed him.
I mean, he is likely from Birmingham after all….
Why would anyone listen to Everton fans these days, honestly. The shite they have watched in the last few years, make us like Real Madrid and we have been dirt. Buying an over hyped English player again for a massive fee(when we can't afford it). It's a massive risk and far from a sure thing. Glad we didn't bend over on this. Important to remember too in the future, when they want our cast off"s. Love this to be the year the angry scousers go down, them and Stone Cold Sean Dyche.
We haven't been difficult to deal with at all. We set a valuation and you didn't meet it. We couldn't have been more clear. The only one playing games and being difficult is you.
I'm fascinated by your take on this and that of some other Everton fans I've heard.
You've said you want a price, we have offered you a lower price, you have said no, we have raised our bid.
That's all that has happened from what I've seen. Pretty standard with most transfers.
at this stage, continuing to negotiate with everton will only embolden them in their thinking that they’re a relevant club. they should be thankful we’ve even gone back with a second bid. it’s like the ugly girl at school turning down a second invite to the prom from the cool jock.
Do you actually believe he is worth the valuation you have placed on him given his single season PL experience? Genuine question.
So Varane has gone and big Willy is going and by all accounts we are getting a player that will be on big money but was injured for a decent amount of last season and warmed the bench for his country at the Euros.
Out of our two CBs one was injured for most of last season and the other did not make the Euros squad due to injury but we have extended a deal for a 36yo and we still have the most passive CB in the league on our books but hopefully for not much longer.
Looks like our two young targets are out of reach so we will be scouring the other leagues and paying double the value of some 25/26yo that would struggle to make a Burnley side.
Out of our two CBs one was injured for most of last season and the other did not make the Euros squad due to injury but we have extended a deal for a 36yo and we still have the most passive CB in the league on our books but hopefully for not much longer.
Looks like our two young targets are out of reach so we will be scouring the other leagues and paying double the value of some 25/26yo that would struggle to make a Burnley side.
This is basically what everyone else is saying too - clunky, nothing special, Maguire-esque.
I remember when we signed Maguire too, everyone was saying what a great ball playing defender he was. I never saw it then, and I still don’t now. At least they’ve stopped trying to convince us though.
We have been very clear with you about the price though, just like we were with Onana. Villa didn't feck about making bids for half of the valuation. They made a bid at the price we set and the deal is done. No games, no fannying about.
As should we be. Our max price point should be set by us and not keep sliding. If what we've offered is insufficient, move on. 'nuff said.
I don't know why Everton fans or ManUtd fans are offended by the bids. They might value player at some price, buying clubs thinks they might get for lower than that. If it doesn't happen then both move on, as simple as that. It's not like officials from both clubs are talking about this deal in the media.
How much would Jorrel Hato likely cost from Ajax ? I think he has a massive ceiling and fits the bill as someone who can play centre back or left back whilst being young enough to accept a squad role whilst developing, would be far cheaper than Branthwaite.
It's not offence, it's more confusion and response to posters rather than United. There are times when clubs are actively selling players or are open to selling players so it makes sense for clubs to make bids and work their way up to try and meet common ground. There are also people on here stating we or other clubs play games and are difficult to deal with which in this case is also nonsense.
This is not one of those situations. We have been very very clear with the fee it will take to sell him. We have reiterated it to you, to the media, and to everyone. This is his price. He won't be sold unless this price is met. It's not a case of trying to work a price up to meet common ground. He's got that price. Match it or dip. No games, no difficulty in understanding that.
Real Madrid would have finished more than 14 points above us last season. You are a bang average side now and certainly not levels above us. Sad but true for you. In fact even though you beat us at Goodison last season, you made us look like Madrid in that game.
Bend over? love this propaganda. You can't afford him currently.
Still think he's destined for a top club.
When I see Aston Villa splashed 50M on Onana, I think 60-70M sounds reasonable for Brathwaite considering his age and talent.
Clubs like Pool, Spurs, Villa sell player on profit so they could do more deals, also it shows their initial recruitment policies were good but we cant say that for UTD as I can't remember selling a player on profit after Ronaldo.
This new regime/direction is certainly bringing hope if you look at the players we have been linked with. Hope we can benefit from having right hierarchy now. Initial windows may look over spent a bit but eventually we could strike the balance.
Clubs like Pool, Spurs, Villa sell player on profit so they could do more deals, also it shows their initial recruitment policies were good but we cant say that for UTD as I can't remember selling a player on profit after Ronaldo.
This new regime/direction is certainly bringing hope if you look at the players we have been linked with. Hope we can benefit from having right hierarchy now. Initial windows may look over spent a bit but eventually we could strike the balance.
But your asking price is based on fantasy, you are trying to bullshit your way to a big price. Only problem is no other big team anywhere is interested (as we shouldn't be), and United are not spending big.
On behalf of INEOs, I would like to apologise for not over bidding on a kid who’s playing a season in the PL.
Imagine being this smug when all your club does is fight relegation every year..
Have you paid full price for absolutely everything in your life?
You do realise there is this thing called … negotiations?
Not when we have no interest in selling. I honestly cant understand how so many Utd fans aren't grasping this.
Nobody is being smug. Pot kettle though... loads of people on here still seem to think Utd are a super power up with Real, Bayern etc.
Utd finished 8th last season and get their backsides handed to them by Gala and Copenhagen.
You are an average PL side that looks like it has limited money to improve the squad and your stadium is falling to bits.