The way Romano writes his tweets always baffle me. What is ‘United consider De Ligt and Branthwaite as separate deals’ supposed to mean? How in any way could they possibly be connected in the first place?
Jarrad Branthwaite
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The way Romano writes his tweets always baffle me. What is ‘United consider De Ligt and Branthwaite as separate deals’ supposed to mean? How in any way could they possibly be connected in the first place?
I would take that to mean they would sign both of possible?
Aye aye, say it quietly but it's a pretty exciting time. I like the profile of who've targeted and the prices rumoured so it's been quite delightful to see INEOS' influence behind the scenes with this footballing structure.
It's been 84 years.....*Wipes away a tear*
must mean we want both of them.
Considering it looks like de Ligt and Zirkzee are close I don't think our budget will be going on any singular player
That we want both not one or the other
I know they keep saying it but to me I don't know how they can be seen as separate. We have 2 CB starters, I doubt either Branthwaite or De Ligt come as a backup role, both would be decently big financial packages to bring them in, and we already have Martinez here. I get we are interested in both, but they are obviously connected deals.
Then as the player i'd be demanding a new contract to reflect my value to the club. 270k a week roughly or to be let move on to a club more in line with my value as a player. If im worth 70m then i should be playing champions league football, not pissing about with Dyche fighting relegation.
I have similar feelings to this. No way Everton are accepting this new offer.
Unless we have more sales already lined-up or a secret war chest, I do'nt know how we can be bidding such money if we're also trying to seal Zirkzee, de Ligt and Ugarte.
This could be an unsettling bid for Branthwaite, let him sulk for a few weeks, then come back in with a third and final offer before the season starts after we've already acquired key players. Further letting Everton know that our budget is far more limited.
I wonder if Everton would be intersted in Maguire or Lindelof in part-exchange?
"A second bid for Jarrad Branthwaite has gone in"
Should of moved on after the first bid, forget playing games anymore on players who have potential having heavy ridiculous tags on them
"far below Evertons valuation" ... yeah, walk away. Or run, actually.
have to finally break this "those suckers will cave and pay up anyway" cycle.
have to finally break this "those suckers will cave and pay up anyway" cycle.
Possibly, it’s just a bonkers way to convey that. He used that exact phrasing when he was tweeting the 6 clubs swapping academy players for PSR purposes, and it made sense in that context as clubs were swapping players.
He can do that if he wants. We can also tell him to suck it up as he has a contract until 2027.
Ah ok fair enough, so just saying one is not contingent on the other. Just an odd way to say it.
Can’t see Everton getting that from any PL club with PSR rules being what they are. It’s a question of whether Everton actually want to cash in and balance their books or if they’re going to hold tight on the valuation knowing it’s unlikely to be met.
Then whats the problem? Everyone is acting in a completely rational, reasonable manner.
Chuckling at the idea of Ashworth on a mad one on his own in the office randomly firing out faxes to all and sundry while laughing maniacally
First off who the feck is this source and we said this after the first bid too. We all know we'll agree a deal very close to their asking price and then brief why it was a blinder of a deal.
Depends, as stated above this could be a game United are playing letting the world know we don’t pay out stupid fees anymore.
All whilst doing our actual bidding on de Ligt etc.
Oh, I think we're halfway there. And you lot might need a prayer.
To keep him, if he really wants the move. Which it sounds like he might.
Move on
He means they want to sign both and not one or the other
Good luck to Everton, I hope they get their £70/80m.
I just hope is we aren't still stupid enough to pay up towards the end of the transfer window after we've had a shite start to the season and panic as normal.
I just hope is we aren't still stupid enough to pay up towards the end of the transfer window after we've had a shite start to the season and panic as normal.
He has three years left on his contract. If he only had a year left it would be more precarious but at this stage I expect we feel confident.
We will get him by the end of the window.
The second bid was far too high if we knew it was likely to be rejected. I hope we don’t go above £55m.
The second bid was far too high if we knew it was likely to be rejected. I hope we don’t go above £55m.
That not how value works. I can’t doodle on a napkin and say it’s worth the same as a Picasso.
Yes you could.
Jarrad used to work on the (Bramley Moore) docks…
This will be some good insight to how INEOS will deal with things. Two rejections, INEOS are shopping in the 40-50 mill range this window, based on other deals currently being done. Do they walk away to actually make the point that we will no longer get strung along and try to stop the "english tax" killing us, or are they desperate for an english signing and we are going to get Maguire'd again.
2027 sounds like a pretty perfect time to pick him up really, just starting to hit his peak.
I could say it. Wouldn’t make it true.
Need to look outside of the league really as all off these valuations are inflated, as expected teams either get greedy or slap on the "United" tax on a player, De Ligt for £40M is good business but £70M on Branthwaite is something Woodward would do, it's like no one has learnt from the Maguire saga.
I'm not sure it's as calculated as you think it is. The same reporter who broke the news of the second bid also tweeted this:
We're probably offering as much as we can afford to offer right now in line with other deals that we're looking to complete like de Ligt and Zirkzee. We did the same with Mason Mount last year, increasing our bid in increments before eventually caving to Chelsea's valuation.
I would hope that we don't do the same this year because £65-70m is a huge amount for us to spend on one player, especially a CB, in a summer where we likely need to sign 7 or 8 new players.
The gardening leave sent him over the edge. he just sent this to Everton
All gardening and no fax makes Dan a dull boy
This will no doubt be rejected and as many have said already we should move on.
If we have another £60-65m budget going spare and we’re keen for an English CB we might as well go for Guehi instead surely.
If we have another £60-65m budget going spare and we’re keen for an English CB we might as well go for Guehi instead surely.
Why are they even trying so far below Everton's valuation?
Just wasting time imo
Just wasting time imo
Well yeah both clubs here are doing what they can to get the best out of it. Everton are absolutely entitled to hold out for the fee they see as reasonable. Similarly Utd will do what they can to lower the fee, including as you say, trying to unsettle the player. Something all clubs do when trying to get a player from a club perceived as being smaller to them.
I do think this will ultimately get done around the 60 Million mark. Both sides can pass that off as a good deal.
That's how it reads and what he was trying to say as others have reported similar. Not sure where the confusion comes from