Jarrad Branthwaite

Would Everton take Maguire and a bit of cash for him?
I would say a lot of cash but I don't think Harry would go for it ...possibly playing in the Championship at the end of his career and not much chance of being picked for England.
It would be a good deal for us if it meant the spend being around 30-40mil.
 
We got De Ligt and Mazraoui for less that what he would have cost.

Thank goodness for that huge slice of luck.
 
Was absolutely shite against us last year too. No idea why there's ever been any hype around him. Average.
 
massive bullet dodged.
We got De Ligt and Mazraoui for less that what he would have cost.

Thank goodness for that huge slice of luck.
Was absolutely shite against us last year too. No idea why there's ever been any hype around him. Average.

He would be much more useful to us than both Martínez and De Ligt, btw. In this game alone that's been evident, despite his mistake for our 2nd goal. I swear football fans are blind man
 
He would be much more useful to us than both Martínez and De Ligt, btw. In this game alone that's been evident, despite his mistake for our 2nd goal. I swear football fans are blind man
We do not need clumsy players. He is certainly not a better choice.
 
I don't doubt he has talent, but this game encapsulates why 80 million for this lad is the sign of a broken transfer system.
 
He would be much more useful to us than both Martínez and De Ligt, btw. In this game alone that's been evident, despite his mistake for our 2nd goal. I swear football fans are blind man
What? He wouldn’t be able to do half of what Martinez does at LCB.

Whether he’s more effective than de Ligt at CCB, unsure. And if he is, it’s certainly not 80m worth.
 
He would be much more useful to us than both Martínez and De Ligt, btw. In this game alone that's been evident, despite his mistake for our 2nd goal. I swear football fans are blind man

You just overlooked the bonus that is Mazraoui.
 
Somebody dig out that article from the Everton journo :lol:
 
Insane that they want that money for him. Would he be from any other country he would be a 15million player. He is not bad but he isnt very good either. Bang average.
 
What? He wouldn’t be able to do half of what Martinez does at LCB.

Whether he’s more effective than de Ligt at CCB, unsure. And if he is, it’s certainly not 80m worth.
Luke Shaw also a better choice.
 
We do not need clumsy players. He is certainly not a better choice.
What? He wouldn’t be able to do half of what Martinez does at LCB.

Whether he’s more effective than de Ligt at CCB, unsure. And if he is, it’s certainly not 80m worth.

Yes, let's have Martínez and De Ligt get humiliated on every transition instead by any half-decent player. Both of them are way too slow and are a detriment to each other when both are playing.

We literally have one single wide defender in the squad for two positions, and that's a 19 year old kid who hasn't played a single minute for us yet.

Branthwaite can eat up space much faster than either of those two that are playing for us today. His box defending has also improved since becoming a starter at Everton, and just because he isn't Martínez level in possession, that doesn't mean we can't build-up with him at LCB.
 
Branthwaite can eat up space much faster than either of those two that are playing for us today. His box defending has also improved since becoming a starter at Everton, and just because he isn't Martínez level in possession, that doesn't mean we can't build-up with him at LCB.
Unless you sprout some progressive play central midfielders out of thin air, yes it does.
 
Yes, let's have Martínez and De Ligt get humiliated on every transition instead by any half-decent player. Both of them are way too slow and are a detriment to each other when both are playing.

We literally have one single wide defender in the squad for two positions, and that's a 19 year old kid who hasn't played a single minute for us yet.

Branthwaite can eat up space much faster than either of those two that are playing for us today. His box defending has also improved since becoming a starter at Everton, and just because he isn't Martínez level in possession, that doesn't mean we can't build-up with him at LCB.

Martinez and De Ligt aren’t even close to being the problem on the transition. Watch the space behind Casemiro some more. You’re a fine one to argue about folk being blind.
 
He would be much more useful to us than both Martínez and De Ligt, btw. In this game alone that's been evident, despite his mistake for our 2nd goal. I swear football fans are blind man

I'm no fan of De Ligt tbh, but Martinez is miles better than Branthwaite.
 
I'm no fan of De Ligt tbh, but Martinez is miles better than Branthwaite.

When we have the ball, certainly. When we don't, Martínez is a huge liability and Branthwaite is the exact opposite of that.
 
Yes, let's have Martínez and De Ligt get humiliated on every transition instead by any half-decent player. Both of them are way too slow and are a detriment to each other when both are playing.

We literally have one single wide defender in the squad for two positions, and that's a 19 year old kid who hasn't played a single minute for us yet.

Branthwaite can eat up space much faster than either of those two that are playing for us today. His box defending has also improved since becoming a starter at Everton, and just because he isn't Martínez level in possession, that doesn't mean we can't build-up with him at LCB.
Branthwaite is faster, can't turn for shit though, crap positioning and has no read for the game, but in a straight line he's faster.
 
Yes, Mazraoui is great, but we didn't dodge any bullets or anything like that by going for De Ligt over Branthwaite.
We didn’t, but you responded in turn with equal hyperbole by saying he would be “much more useful” than two of our best CBs.
 
At least Mainoo hasn’t scored an own goal and set up the 2nd

It wasnt an own goal - it was 100% going in with or without Brantwaithe.

Anyway, if he was a Ten Hag player (psv loan spell) more than an Ineos player then avoiding him maybe the right thing
 
We didn’t, but you responded in turn with equal hyperbole by saying he would be “much more useful” than two of our best CBs.

It's not hyperbole. We need at least 4 CBs who can eat up space quickly and we only have one in Yoro.
Not buying Branthwaite for 80m is 100% dodging a bullet.

He's not worth 80m, but Branthwaite for 55-60m would've been at least as good of a deal as De Ligt was for 38m, even long-term, despite me thinking 38m for the Dutchman will turn out to be a bargain eventually. And short-term, it would've been a much better deal for the reasons I've already pointed out.
 
It wasnt an own goal - it was 100% going in with or without Brantwaithe.

Anyway, if he was a Ten Hag player (psv loan spell) more than an Ineos player then avoiding him maybe the right thing
I haven’t seen a decent angle which suggests Pickford was or wasn’t going to save it
 
Worth pointing out that Branthwaite is a good player. Not sure we need to pursue him any further given that both Martinez and Shaw can play that exact role. Shaw being the best of them all in there by some distance.
 
Martinez and De Ligt aren’t even close to being the problem on the transition. Watch the space behind Casemiro some more. You’re a fine one to argue about folk being blind.

And who did we sign to solve that issue? Ugarte, another player who cannot cover big spaces quickly.
 
Yes, Mazraoui is great, but we didn't dodge any bullets or anything like that by going for De Ligt over Branthwaite.

If we spent more on Braithwaite, we would not have had to money to do the cheaper double deal with Bayern.