What's he like on the ball?
It looks like Amorim's CBs need to be good at passing and progressing the ball.
It looks like Amorim's CBs need to be good at passing and progressing the ball.
Jarrad Branthwaite
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Jamie (@Vault Dweller) review both the Everton and Bodø/Glimt victories at Old Trafford. Listen to the guys discuss 2 wins and 7 goals in the last week, analyse of the Amorim formation, focus on Amad and how he is playing, and also take a look at Hojlund, Rashford & Zirkzee – who starts v Arsenal?
Yes but like in defence, if the forwards dont help, you are open. In attack if the defence and midfield dont help, you cant really create as alot of teams now defend with 10 men behind the ball.
Secondly, we are relying on Rashford (inconsistent) Garnacho and Hojlund who are U21 to create and score? None of those players are creators. Its all about balance of the team, which Ten Hag consistently got wrong.
Anyway, we digress as this is the Branthwaite thread, I think he would be good for us, but obviously for the right price.
But our midfield and fullbacks do help with attack, it's our forwards that are not pulling their weight.
oh, the record of 24/25 injury history is doubled due to the date of calf injury and knee injury are double summed
| Season | Injury | from | until | Days | Games missed |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 24/25 | Calf injury | Aug 11, 2024 | Nov 8, 2024 | 89 days |   20 |
| 24/25 | Knee injury | Aug 1, 2024 | Oct 20, 2024 | 80 days | 16 |
| 23/24 | Muscle injury | Feb 18, 2024 | Jun 10, 2024 | 113 days | 22 |
| 23/24 | Thigh problems | Dec 24, 2023 | Jan 24, 2024 | 31 days | 4 |
| 23/24 | Muscle injury | Aug 23, 2023 | Nov 23, 2023 | 92 days | 24 |
| 22/23 | unknown injury | Apr 6, 2023 | Apr 19, 2023 | 13 days | 3 |
| 21/22 | Leg injury | Apr 2, 2022 | May 13, 2022 | 41 days | 8 |
| 21/22 | Corona virus | Mar 2, 2022 | Mar 16, 2022 | 14 days | 3 |
| 21/22 | Hamstring injury | Jan 18, 2022 | Jan 31, 2022 | 13 days | 2 |
| 21/22 | Head injury | Nov 20, 2021 | Dec 7, 2021 | 17 days | 5 |
| 20/21 | Hamstring injury | Nov 7, 2020 | Dec 7, 2020 | 30 days | 9 |
| 20/21 | Ankle injury | Jul 14, 2020 | Sep 11, 2020 | 59 days | 9 |
Its hard to predict what we'll need with a change in formation. A LWB or LB is a safe bet but beyond that you can see some players adjusting quite well or struggling with the change. We have 3 cb's on the way out at the end of the season and i dont think anyone is desperate to keep them so we probably will need to bring someone in.
Branthwaite hasn't played enough this season. Whatever the reason for it, its not a great sales pitch.
Branthwaite hasn't played enough this season. Whatever the reason for it, its not a great sales pitch.
Right now we're 6th in the Prem in xG, but 18th in goals scored. So we have created good chances, but we've missed them mostly. It's a small sample so I wouldn't take the stats fully at face value, but again who is a good attacking player on the team besides Bruno?
Would any of Rashford, Hojlund, Garnacho, and Amad start at any of City, Liverpool, Arsenal, and Chelsea? I think the answer is no, and that really tells you all you need to know. We have fairly average attacking players, and hence we're not great at creating chances nor scoring the ones we do make. Rashford was a good player but appears to have declined a bit from his peak (hopefully I'm wrong, but he's at the age declines often begin) and the others haven't yet reached their potential.
And to your point on defense last year, yes I think a lot of it was personnel issues. We had no Ugarte in midfield, instead relying on a declining Casemiro, and Licha/Maguire/Varane were hurt much of the year. Guys like Lindelof and Evans aren't great players, and the defense played accordingly. Heck, we tried Case at CB for a bit we were so desperate.
I stated earlier on a post that we created chances but our finishing was poor and that was a big issue and it will be under the new manager unless our players lift their game when it comes to converting chances to goals;
https://www.premierleague.com/stats/top/clubs/big_chance_missed
Is he even fit? I haven't watched much of Everton this season to be fair.
Would Everton take Maguire and a bit of cash for him?
I would say a lot of cash but I don't think Harry would go for it ...possibly playing in the Championship at the end of his career and not much chance of being picked for England.
It would be a good deal for us if it meant the spend being around 30-40mil.
He is so clumsy.
Should someone tell him we didn’t sign him?
massive bullet dodged.
Our best player, and not even signed yet... 80m my arse
Failing his audition
We got De Ligt and Mazraoui for less that what he would have cost.
Thank goodness for that huge slice of luck.
Thank goodness for that huge slice of luck.
Was absolutely shite against us last year too. No idea why there's ever been any hype around him. Average.
Isnt it his first game back from injury?
If so mainoo looks just as shit
If so mainoo looks just as shit
Audition not going well so far 
He would be much more useful to us than both Martínez and De Ligt, btw. In this game alone that's been evident, despite his mistake for our 2nd goal. I swear football fans are blind man
I guess it's understandable why Everton fans were upset we didn't buy him now
We do not need clumsy players. He is certainly not a better choice.
I don't doubt he has talent, but this game encapsulates why 80 million for this lad is the sign of a broken transfer system.
What? He wouldn’t be able to do half of what Martinez does at LCB.
Whether he’s more effective than de Ligt at CCB, unsure. And if he is, it’s certainly not 80m worth.
You just overlooked the bonus that is Mazraoui.
Not very good.
Somebody dig out that article from the Everton journo
Insane that they want that money for him. Would he be from any other country he would be a 15million player. He is not bad but he isnt very good either. Bang average.
He's played the full 90 in their last 2 games.
Luke Shaw also a better choice.
Yes, let's have Martínez and De Ligt get humiliated on every transition instead by any half-decent player. Both of them are way too slow and are a detriment to each other when both are playing.
We literally have one single wide defender in the squad for two positions, and that's a 19 year old kid who hasn't played a single minute for us yet.
Branthwaite can eat up space much faster than either of those two that are playing for us today. His box defending has also improved since becoming a starter at Everton, and just because he isn't Martínez level in possession, that doesn't mean we can't build-up with him at LCB.
Unless you sprout some progressive play central midfielders out of thin air, yes it does.
Martinez and De Ligt aren’t even close to being the problem on the transition. Watch the space behind Casemiro some more. You’re a fine one to argue about folk being blind.
Yes, Mazraoui is great, but we didn't dodge any bullets or anything like that by going for De Ligt over Branthwaite.
I'm no fan of De Ligt tbh, but Martinez is miles better than Branthwaite.
At least Mainoo hasn’t scored an own goal and set up the 2nd
Looks shite
Lumbering slow oaf
Thought he was supposed to be fast?
Lumbering slow oaf
Thought he was supposed to be fast?
When we have the ball, certainly. When we don't, Martínez is a huge liability and Branthwaite is the exact opposite of that.
Branthwaite is faster, can't turn for shit though, crap positioning and has no read for the game, but in a straight line he's faster.