I mean it was quite well reported we wouldn’t pay what they wanted.
Jarrad Branthwaite
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Imran (@Annihilate Now!) are here to discuss Amad saving our blushes in a win against Southampton as well as our now annual loss at home to Brighton. They discuss Amorim's post-match comments, revisit how mid-table we may or may not be, and discuss some transfer news.
How's he been this season?
Injured, mostly.
Injured. He's only played 2 full games. 2-1 win against Palace and 0-0 vs West Ham. Hard to really judge him due to that.
"Overpriced" depends on the price. We already walked away last summer when it reached a certain price point, so obviously we're not desperate enough to overpay.
But a 22 year old English CB with his quality, physicality and two-footedness should cost quite a bit of money.
Can't dribble. Can't pass. Struggles being turned. Goes to ground too much. Too expensive. Other than that sounds good
Would much rather Inacio for that LB spot since he will know the system and more importantly will be considerably cheaper than £70m.
Bring. BRING.
If there is limited money to spend then it seems a bit daft to spend it on another centre back especially in January!
He only signed a new contract with them last October so saying he's refusing to sign another new one is irrelevant anyway.
He only signed a new contract with them last October so saying he's refusing to sign another new one is irrelevant anyway.
Still not a priority at the point especially in the Jan window where I can guarantee we'll need another CM.
Unbeaten, is what I’m hearing.
Can’t fly, can’t fight, can’t crow.
Collectively we look much better with him in the side. Hopefully he is involved in the Brentford game this weekend.99% sure he will stay in Jan but be gone in the summer.
Would prefer Man Utd to replace Maguire with Diomande and wait with Branthwaite.
A) Need to see him stay fit. I also think it would do him good to play more football before signing for Man Utd.
B) We still have Luke Shaw on a contract til 2027. It is cheaper to get rid if we can make use of him one more year.
C) Branthwaite contracts too expire in 2027. Signing him summer of 2026 give us a bit more leverage.
Bored of signing CBs now. We have about 300
We should put a club wide ban on SCP players, anybody Portuguese and and one who has played in that league
Yeah but we can count on at least 298 of them to be injured at any given time.
The urgency is probably because we have projected our future homegrown quota and also are aware of the limited number of options.
This is what we disagree on, I don't see his quality being anywhere near even the bottom end of what we bid for him last summer.
As it stands we'll only have three of our current first team CBs come the summer, in a team that plays three at the back. So expect more CB signings.
Why do you think we will only have 3?As it stands we'll only have three of our current first team CBs come the summer, in a team that plays three at the back. So expect more CB signings.
I bet Lindelof staysAs it stands we'll only have three of our current first team CBs come the summer, in a team that plays three at the back. So expect more CB signings.
Lindelof, Evans and Maguire are all out of contract next summer. We have an option for +1 on Maguires contract but its an expensive contract.
Christ, we really have a hard on for him don’t we.
On a serious note- how has he been this year ?
On a serious note- how has he been this year ?
Injured
Did you just not fancy answering this, @Hammondo?
Zirkzee is a foward (supposedly)
Reports saying we'll have to opperate on a smaller budget and immediately after saying we're interested on a british CB for whom Everton asked 80M last summer. You cant make this up.
We urgently need a striker and fullbacks, I don't thik we're going to spend big on CBs specially in january. We have Lisandro/Shaw for the LCB, De Ligt/Maguire for CB and Yoro/Evans/Lindelof for RCB.
We urgently need a striker and fullbacks, I don't thik we're going to spend big on CBs specially in january. We have Lisandro/Shaw for the LCB, De Ligt/Maguire for CB and Yoro/Evans/Lindelof for RCB.
Not good enough on the ball. We're supposed to be moving away from signings like this.
Perfect. Sign him up. We can't make him any more injured. Result.
Oh there you are, Peter.
The thing with Brantwaithe is he plays very much like Leny Yoro.
Both have this ability to play long cross field balls to the opposite end as their main passing output, they are both built like absolute tanks who are physically tall but the most similar thing to each other is how they slide tackle the opposition by almost diving in to stop the final bit of the attack.
They are absolutely amazing at making last ditch tackles & also great at heading.
I think having Yoro, De Ligt, Brantwaithe & Martinez gives us the best bunch of CB's in the league & i would personally keep Maguire for back up aswell & even possibly the world & this would cover that aspect of titles are not won by attacking its won by defending.
I think
Both have this ability to play long cross field balls to the opposite end as their main passing output, they are both built like absolute tanks who are physically tall but the most similar thing to each other is how they slide tackle the opposition by almost diving in to stop the final bit of the attack.
They are absolutely amazing at making last ditch tackles & also great at heading.
I think having Yoro, De Ligt, Brantwaithe & Martinez gives us the best bunch of CB's in the league & i would personally keep Maguire for back up aswell & even possibly the world & this would cover that aspect of titles are not won by attacking its won by defending.
I think
Onana
Yoro - Martinez - Brantwaithe
Or
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De Ligt - Maguire - Martinez
Etc, gives us alot of variety & targeting Brantwaithe is because we want to find the perfect partner for Yoro, the perfect partner for Martinez was bought this summer with De ligt.Yoro - Martinez - Brantwaithe
Or
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De Ligt - Maguire - Martinez
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De Light, Maguire, Yoro, Licha, Lindelof.
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Hojlund, Zirkzee.
Let's sign Gyokeres instead. As signing either of them would mean breaking the bank.
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Hojlund, Zirkzee.
Let's sign Gyokeres instead. As signing either of them would mean breaking the bank.
Lindeløf is surely going, maybe Maguire too. And Evans is getting slightly bald
He’s the NI Pepe, but not a total twunt!
Don't see us moving for Gyokares and I'm alright with that.
He's 27 and only proven in Portugal. Nunez is a good example of how one can struggle from a big jump. Also, he was essentially nothing before Amorim maximised his skill sets. I see no reason to rule out Hojlund who broadly has similar strengths.
Would much rather see how he works with what we have. One clear issue for me is creators. We need players capable of a cutback or quick cross for the striker.
Four four two had a really good video on how Amorim plays and focused on shot distances and also shots overall. Sporting had comfortably more goals than anyone else, despite fewer shots. Their shot distance was very small and that's because they had very good ball carriers into the final third giving good cutbacks.
Of course that's not the only offensive pattern they had but still an interesting observation. Hojlund for me needs to work on some positioning (eg when to make near post runs vs far post ones), but he's a strong finisher and capable of being the funnel for most chances.
Yeah we don't need another CB. We simply have to go for forwards
Weird one this as I like Branthwaite and think he has great potential. I can also just see us signing him, for some reason it just feels right and like it will happen.
The negative is that we are just so desperate for attacking players and even another CM. If we have deep pockets and signing Branthwaite doesn't impact other positions then I'm all for it but unfortunately I don't think that's the case.
The negative is that we are just so desperate for attacking players and even another CM. If we have deep pockets and signing Branthwaite doesn't impact other positions then I'm all for it but unfortunately I don't think that's the case.
We're not that desperate for attacking players though, it depends how you look at it. We have Yoro De Ligt Martinez as our CB's but we need to get more as we dont really have another LCB. Evans and Lindelof contract expiring end of the season, so going into next season with 4 CB's is not ideal
In attack, we have alot of numbers. We have Antony, Bruno, Mount, Hojlund, Amad, Zirkzee, Rashford, Garnacho
I'd imagine Dalot would also be good as a right sided CB in a 3, we have Maguire and still have Shaw on the books too.
We have some numbers in attack but not the quality. Several of those mentioned need moving on.
For me, if we have limited funds then the attack is priority but in an ideal world we do need both.