Jarrad Branthwaite
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Imran (@Annihilate Now!) are here to discuss Amad saving our blushes in a win against Southampton as well as our now annual loss at home to Brighton. They discuss Amorim's post-match comments, revisit how mid-table we may or may not be, and discuss some transfer news.
OK.
I can imagine it’s frustrating for Everton supporters given the tailspin.
I don't mind but I'm always just trying to post from the view of what I think the club will do or what they have said really based on the sources that I know, read and listen to. If Branthwaite leaves then it is what it is and if he refused a deal offered then it is what it is but I think sometimes people here get weirdly personal and/or they just hoover up every bit of info as fact when it's from really poor quality sources.
It's not from Wheeler or Ladyman who are the DMs most reliable sources on United matters. But I wouldn't call the DM poor quality (for football news at least).
It's a banned source on here for transfer information.
Funnily, both the Mail and Jones are separately so it is a double whammy.
If that's the case then I certainly don't agree with that decision. Depending on the journalist they have very tight access to the club and often get given exclusives.
Fair. I just think it’s a very logical conclusion, one which I raised as well as many others. Your club is in a real pickle with this one; you can’t set a ptice whilst simultaneously undercutting the player when it comes to wages of said price point. A paradox you can’t really escape.
Expected, if true.
Womp Womp
Get Blatter on the case, he will free the slaves.
I would assume that we have taken that gamble though since the deal he signed was until 2027, so it gives us a bit more wiggle room in terms of next summer.
I’m surprised he’d even renew at £160,000 - not that they’d ever offer him that anyway
I can’t see how Everton go from where they are now to a team getting CL football
Not that I expect that number to be accurate but 160k/week would be a bit much to put him on.
Well according to the wage structure thread he'd be one of your highest paid players.
Yeah, if the Yoro and Zirkzee capology wages are even in a vague ballpark of reality they're a good step below that. He's not as young but still very much in development.
But random no context wage number (gross or after taxes, with or without bonus added in, etc...) might be misleading.
Come on, 160k is far too much for him. We would have been stupid if we paid him that, and so would Everton. But they do value him at 70m, which in his eyes should justify the 160k wages. Tricky situation really.
A very bad one to take for the potential backfire, though. The kid has had his head turned, if not by us, then by your valuation and declaration. You’ve essentially checkmated yourselves.
We have done it in the past with Stones and it's paid off. We will see if it does again.
You set a fairer price for Stones. And he was a superior talent, to boot. So again, it’s a really, really bad play from your higher ups - you’re not following the Stones template with this one.
I think they saw the Maguire price and thought we were there for the rinsing. A bad gamble given everyone knows that the Maguire fee was a disgrace.
Offer Maguire and 35 million but can't see that happening
The majority of Everton fans and Everton people rate Branthwaite higher than Stones and I'm pretty sure the price with inflation comes out to more or less the same as to what we are asking for Branthwaite.
Additionally we don't even need to offer him a new deal. He signed one in October and has 3 years left on it. If he has another great season then clubs will come in and try to negotiate a deal again.
Once the window closes he will sign contract, maybe with some sort of agreement with management that he can leave for certain price. Won't be lesser than what they quoted this summer for sure.
So one more year for the player to prove his talent, selling club will get good fee and also buying club will have more data to analyse and make the decision.
So one more year for the player to prove his talent, selling club will get good fee and also buying club will have more data to analyse and make the decision.
I can almost hear theother14 subreddit creating a thread to moan about this….
I also wouldn't be surprised if something like this happens in the mould that Caicedo/Brighton stuff did.
I think you are quite far off the mark. Outside the media enjoying selling the hype, he's not that highly thought of.
I feel 80-100k and a 65-75m release clause would make sense in these circumstances but seems we very rarely do that sort of thing in England.
Everton fans and Everton people*.
It's a common scenario if I'm not wrong.
A subreddit that repeatedly turns a blind eye to Newcastle.
Why do we not formalise the process though? What's the argument that gentlemen's agreements are better practice than contractual release clauses?
Ah ok.
There is no argument. It's between player, club.
Imo player who is ambitious should insist for release clause, it's has pros and cons.
Good lad.
Great! Make Everton pay his wages according to their fees valuation of 70m for Braithwaite.
That article you're all quoting says that Branthwaite is apparently on 70k yet every source up until now has said it's 35k. So either it's full of absolute shite and clickbait or everyone else is wrong.
so are they saying he's had his head turned by United due to the wage offer?