Jarrad Branthwaite

No evertonian is angry or unhinged at it. We simply don't care.

You post too much for someone who "don't care". I actually know an Everton fan in real life and he truly couldn't care - "good for you and good for us" was his response.

We are delighted it looks like you've moved on. We didn't and don't want to sell branthwaite.

Like.... What? We didn't even want to talk to you about branthwaite

Good, thank you for your comments, I don't expect to hear more from you on this.

We've reacted to utd fans all over Twitter acting like utd have got some kind of win over Everton. I've seen things like 'Everton fans bitter cos Ineos won't play 3D chess with Everton'

Erm are you aware that 3D chess is just your normal real life chess? You could just say "chess" and people will understand you.
 
Yeah that's a bit of an exaggeration and this is coming from someone who rates Branthwaite.

I don't know why Everton fans are getting so worked up over this. We've made two respectable bids for him that obviously don't match Everton's valuation and that's fine. They've managed to sell Onana for a decent fee so they're not under as much pressure to sell now. Good for them. They are banking on Branthwaite having another great season and as I've said I won't be surprised if he does and his valuation even goes up next summer with more clubs interested in him.
Exactly. This taking of offence is ridiculous. We are entitled to try to get him for a reasonable few just as they're entitled to say 'no'.
 
I still don't understand why they're not relieved. Surely relief should be the prevailing emotion coming out of this from Everton fans, yet the majority of them seem to be upset.
 
Till when is he under contract at Everton?

2027 but he’s only on £35k a week so something will have to give (if rumours are correct we’d have quadrupled that).

As above, I think a slightly extended contract with a massively increased wage and a sensible release clause is most likely to be negotiated if he’s still at Everton next season.
 
United final offer should be what we paid for Yoro. If they feel its an acceptable offer then fine else we should go for De Ligt.
 
You've just paid £50m for an 18 year old with 1 year left on his deal.... when the other club were offering £20m. You've over paid for a bang average dutch striker... even paid more than his release fee and a ridiculous agent fee.

Lets not pretend United have changed, you've just dished out 2 ridiculous fees.

The problem you have is our fee is above your budget currently.
3 year Installments. To try and paint as "ridiculous fees". Is laughble. Yet yalll wanted us to 75m + on your player with 1 year of EPL experience. A year in which you fought off relegation and barely survived. Whilst this kid was of help leading lowly Lille to a UCL spot.

Even crazier is NONE of you seem happy your boy has stayed another year. Which can legitimately add even more zeroes to his selling fees if he is stands out.
 
3 year Installments. To try and paint as "ridiculous fees". Is laughble. Yet yalll wanted us to 75m + on your player with 1 year of EPL experience. A year in which you fought off relegation and barely survived. Whilst this kid was of help leading lowly Lille to a UCL spot.

Even crazier is NONE of you seem happy your boy has stayed another year. Which can legitimately add even more zeroes to his selling fees if he is stands out.
Its so weird isn’t it? Feeling offended that we dont value their player so highly and almost desperate to sell him to us.
 
You'd think Everton and Utd fans would be united by their hatred of Liverpool.
Living in the Chester/North wales area I do find this the case. My boss is an Evertonian and we often moan together about Liverpool, all good fun.
 
3 year Installments. To try and paint as "ridiculous fees". Is laughble. Yet yalll wanted us to 75m + on your player with 1 year of EPL experience. A year in which you fought off relegation and barely survived. Whilst this kid was of help leading lowly Lille to a UCL spot.

Even crazier is NONE of you seem happy your boy has stayed another year. Which can legitimately add even more zeroes to his selling fees if he is stands out.

That guy is baiting, he's looking for juicy quotes to post on their forum :lol:
 
You've just paid £50m for an 18 year old with 1 year left on his deal.... when the other club were offering £20m. You've over paid for a bang average dutch striker... even paid more than his release fee and a ridiculous agent fee.

Lets not pretend United have changed, you've just dished out 2 ridiculous fees.

The problem you have is our fee is above your budget currently.
"You're still dishing out ridiculous fees. Just not for us."

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I don’t think enough is being made that we’ve put official formal offers in for him

I don’t think they’ve done that with anyone else who they haven’t already signed this summer

Don’t see United giving up. I can see another bid later in the window. I think United know exactly who they want and they will keep trying
 
You've just paid £50m for an 18 year old with 1 year left on his deal.... when the other club were offering £20m. You've over paid for a bang average dutch striker... even paid more than his release fee and a ridiculous agent fee.

Lets not pretend United have changed, you've just dished out 2 ridiculous fees.

The problem you have is our fee is above your budget currently.
What a troll
 
You've just paid £50m for an 18 year old with 1 year left on his deal.... when the other club were offering £20m. You've over paid for a bang average dutch striker... even paid more than his release fee and a ridiculous agent fee.

Lets not pretend United have changed, you've just dished out 2 ridiculous fees.

The problem you have is our fee is above your budget currently.

Nah Utd are happy to take Everton players for big fees if they are worth it. We took the only world class player Everton have had in your lifetime. He was 18 too

This lad just isn't worth it.
 
That guy is baiting, he's looking for juicy quotes to post on their forum :lol:
More importantly, they refer to 'chess' as '3D chess' which means the poster must be two-dimensional. You can't trust 2D folk: their opinions are skin deep, their jokes fall flat, and when they sail in a straight line they plummet off the Earth's edge. They smell funny too.
 
We will get this deal done before the window is over.

I’m interested to see his backdrop. A nice Merseyside picture would look good.
 
You just need to look at their forum (what was it, great old something) and it'll all be clear, bitterness and bile beyond belief. And for some reason they really hate United. The enemy of my enemy is my worst enemy, weird folk. This Branthwaite thing really did a number on them for some reason

It's like the only thing they can talk about:
Not the first time I’ve seen a United fan say something along these lines.

Is this a coping strategy from them? Or do they honestly think we were desperate to sell one of the best defenders in the league last season for some reason?

Every Evertonian I’ve seen thinks it’s great that they’ve moved on - and hilarious that they’ve thrown a huge amount of cash on a French prospect.
The mental gymnastics of Utd fans at the moment. They're mad at Everton for not selling on the cheap, ecstatic that they spent more money on a completely unproven kid, insisting that JB isn't good enough, but somehow not mad at Ratface for bidding £50m on him
No Everton fan is mad they're buying someone else.

It's a way of trying to position themselves as a club that arent a basket case and are in fact, still the envy of other clubs in England.

They are desperate to portray Radcliffe as heralding a wave of positive change
The media /social media response has been one of the oddest things I’ve ever seen . It’s like they’re inventing conversations in their heads then angry about that conversation . So weird

I think as well it probably stings them that they couldn’t leverage a distressed club’s position to get a great player on the cheap - as they did with Rooney and Rio Ferdinand and many others over the years.

They are used to being the bullies - only now no one takes them seriously as a credible footballing operation, let alone a giant of the game that gets what it wants.
They’re confusing with being angry with us being perplexed that they’d happily drop £50million on a very inexperienced player who only has a year on his contract after all their ‘we won’t be bullied’ posturing. They made it so obvious that had no other CB targets, the lad was going for nothing next year, they need a guy who can hit the ground running day one.

Make no mistake, I am thrilled Branthwaite is with us. Next summer or so, I fully expect him to go to a real elite club. At least City/Madrid and the like don’t mess around with fees. Big club mentality.
Weird replies from Man Utd fans posting from tin huts in Lagos.
I don’t mind the lowball bids. Jim shoulda just kept his mouth shut. Made a fool of himself. He looks a much weaker owner now after the Yoro transfer regardless of how it turns out. Wouldn’t be surprised if they continue to get skinned on transfers
Yeah Manure seem very butthurt over it all. The weird reports they tried to spread yesterday of Everton "being surprised" that they were working to buy someone else scream of that insecurity. Seems they want to portray some strange idea of Everton desperate to sell, but turning down the offers anyway, and now Manure have played them by moving on and buying another player, when we were sure they would come back and offer again for the player we told them we dont want to sell.

Comes off incredibly childish, but seems their "fans" have eaten it up.
What it's communicated to me is that if you don't want to lose a player to United, you just have to say no twice - and then Ratcliffe will reflexively pivot to any player he can instantly get his hands on and overpay for them instead. Because that will show us.

The guy is a strategic genius.
 
They've been punished for breaking FFP while City escape with 115 charges and they (City) are "real elite club". This is just...I have no words. What is wrong with these blue scousers?
 
Yoro is one of the world's best young prospects right now. Branthwaite is talented but I don't think he is as highly rated...i don't understand why the Everton fans don't seem to grasp this. Fair enough if they rate him at 70m, they have every right to. But why would we be angry at Sir Jim for not overpaying?
 
Outside of all the usual inter-club petty rivalries, which I think is where a lot of the animosity on both sides of fans stem from, I think the biggest issue is that a lot of United fans, rightly or wrongly, see Branthwaite as an inferior footballing prospect to Yoro. I think some of that is because he is English and not as technically proficient as some of the best ball playing defenders around. In midfield, I think Declan Rice is perceived very similarly, and I've seen similar critiques of De Ligt. Many Everton fans clearly disagree - and I think that is part of why the commentary has turned a little toxic.
 
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Outside of all the usual inter-club petty rivalries, which I think is where a lot of the animosity on both sides of fans stem from, I think the biggest issue is that a lot of United fans, rightly or wrongly, see Branthwaite as an inferior footballing prospect to Yoro. I think some of that is because he is English and not as technically proficient as some of the best ball playing defenders around. In midfield, I think Declan Rice is perceived very similarly, and I've seen similar critiques of De Ligt. Many Everton fans clearly disagree - and I think that is part of why the commentary has turned a little toxic.
United fans have been burned over and over by overpaying for 'proven' English talent over the years so there's a sound basis for the aversion to the idea especially when PL clubs will never ever sell for anything less than high peak market value.

Looking abroad now instead of almost exclusively domestically for up and coming talents is something that we haven't done much of recently so there's a certain novelty and more excitement there and especially with the way other rival clubs have smashed it when buying young talent from other leagues.
 
It's like the only thing they can talk about:

I find this genuinely hilarious.

No Man Utd fan is even halfway arsed that we didn't sign Jarrad bloody Braintheaite.

I'll say it again, they just feel emotionally wounded that we don't rate their only decent player as highly as they do and took it personally.
 
Outside of all the usual inter-club petty rivalries, which I think is where a lot of the animosity on both sides of fans stem from, I think the biggest issue is that a lot of United fans, rightly or wrongly, see Branthwaite as an inferior footballing prospect to Yoro. I think some of that is because he is English and not as technically proficient as some of the best ball playing defenders around. In midfield, I think Declan Rice is perceived very similarly, and I've seen similar critiques of De Ligt. Many Everton fans clearly disagree - and I think that is part of why the commentary has turned a little toxic.

From what I've seen I think most Utd fans think he looks a pretty decent centre back and would be okay with us signing him for a reasonable price.

I think Everton fans are wounded that we aren't begging to sign him and proclaiming him the next Bobby Moore and they are trying to mask it by insulting the club and it's actions.
 
United fans have been burned over and over by overpaying for 'proven' English talent over the years so there's a sound basis for the aversion to the idea especially when PL clubs will never ever sell for anything less than high peak market value.

Looking abroad now instead of almost exclusively domestically for up and coming talents is something that we haven't done much of recently so there's a certain novelty and more excitement there and especially with the way other rival clubs have smashed it when buying young talent from other leagues.
I fully agree - I think there is a huge Harry Maguire shaped albatross that hangs around the neck of any EPL-proven prospect, particularly English ones of perceived technical inferiority. For what it's worth, I think the narrative would shift dramatically if the aforementioned players are perceived as technically elite. For example, if someone like Bastoni was English and played for Everton, I imagine many posters would be very willing to pay the sums mooted, even if Bastoni does not possess the physical attributes of Branthwaite. I don't know if I fully agree with this view because I do think unique athletic traits are somewhat under appreciated by many fans (I love Rodri and his technical ability, but I genuinely believe that his physical traits are not mentioned enough about what makes him so unique).
 
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I fully agree - I think there is a huge Harry Maguire shaped albatross that hangs around the neck of any EPL-proven prospect, particularly English ones of perceived technical inferiority. I don't know if I fully agree with the analysis, but it seems to colour the view of many posters.

If this lad had proven himself as much as Maguire did at Hull and Leicester this would be a more interesting conversation.
 
I fully agree - I think there is a huge Harry Maguire shaped albatross that hangs around the neck of any EPL-proven prospect, particularly English ones of perceived technical inferiority. For what it's worth, I think the narrative would shift dramatically if the aforementioned players are perceived as technically elite. For example, if someone like Bastoni was English and played for Everton, I imagine many posters would be very willing to pay the sums mooted, even if Bastoni does not possess the physical attributes of Branthwaite. I don't know if I fully agree with this view because I do think unique athletic traits are somewhat under appreciated by many fans (I love Rodri and his technical ability, but I genuinely believe that his physical traits are not mentioned enough about what makes him so unique).
I think that's the main issue really. It's not enough to just be a good defender anymore, the top teams want players who can pass it out through a press, pass through the lines and/or dribble out of trouble. I haven't seen that much of Branthwaite to be fair, but he does at a glance look big and tall and strong and a bit awkward with the ball.

Lisandro Martinez came to the PL under a lot of scrutiny - lots of pundits were saying he was too short and small for the Premier League, but I can't really remember any times that was an issue? Those pundits ended up eating their words and he was universally lauded as a good player
 
What a sad pathetic bunch of insecure fans :lol: So butthurt that they are flexing the might of mancity to belittle United, the same mancity who has 115 charges against them and still not punished whilst their own club has already been punished twice for much much less.

You would have thought that they would be seething at mancity given how corrupt they actually are compared to their own club and yet, still getting away with murder but apparently not instead they save their hatred for United, a club which’s not only the enemy of their bitter enemy but also the cross town rivals of the cheats 115fc.

Now, after seeing their bile towards us for no apparent reason I’m sure they were rooting for city in the fa cup final too. Must be. Good thing is we won that final and brought more misery to them. They just need to worry about your their second rate club try to survive relegation again and not getting punished again.

PS - I don’t hate Everton @SilentWitness and I like you :)
 
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Outside of all the usual inter-club petty rivalries, which I think is where a lot of the animosity on both sides of fans stem from, I think the biggest issue is that a lot of United fans, rightly or wrongly, see Branthwaite as an inferior footballing prospect to Yoro. I think some of that is because he is English and not as technically proficient as some of the best ball playing defenders around. In midfield, I think Declan Rice is perceived very similarly, and I've seen similar critiques of De Ligt. Many Everton fans clearly disagree - and I think that is part of why the commentary has turned a little toxic.
I fully agree - I think there is a huge Harry Maguire shaped albatross that hangs around the neck of any EPL-proven prospect, particularly English ones of perceived technical inferiority. For what it's worth, I think the narrative would shift dramatically if the aforementioned players are perceived as technically elite. For example, if someone like Bastoni was English and played for Everton, I imagine many posters would be very willing to pay the sums mooted, even if Bastoni does not possess the physical attributes of Branthwaite. I don't know if I fully agree with this view because I do think unique athletic traits are somewhat under appreciated by many fans (I love Rodri and his technical ability, but I genuinely believe that his physical traits are not mentioned enough about what makes him so unique).

Good posts.
Theres a lot of noise and trolling surrounding united and transfer silly season in general. I think both sets of fans are bemused / bewildered by the idea because it would be bizarre if it was true. Maybe everton fans are a bit bewildered that random shit like this gets made up. Its just noise, its speculation, its a bit of daydreaming. I'd try not to get too invested because its just bored people being silly mostly. It wont last.
I'd say people are heavily reassessing the value of physical attributes. Barcelona, Spain and Guardiola have forced a rethink and i'd say that applies to clubs aspiring to league titles and champions league more than most. I think the premier league has been slower to change but there just aren't many drogba, davies, ferguson type strikers to worry about these days. There's very few Stoke on a tuesday night matches these days. The odd team that does tends to be relegation candidates that you should beat even if it isn't an ideal match up.
We've probably been spoiled by having Smalling, Varane and Maguire knocking about and have forgot its value a bit too.
Real Madrid, Liverpool and PSG chasing a player gives a certain amount of reassurance I think for Yoro. Players like him are always cat nip to transfer muppets. Branthwaite is too familiar.

The Maguire shaped albatross might be a bit less significant if teams didn't reference it when trying to sell a defender. Fofana wont help either.