January Transfer Window

Crime if we don't butter Mourinho up and say how we respect him and would like Mata with no hassle in the press or anything, no jabs at the club, that type of thing.

Mata is fecking immense.
 
Doesn't Mata play midfield? (CM)

No. Behind the striker or usually as a left attacking mid or right attacking mid. But Mourinho doesn't like using him on the wings because he doesn't work hard enough defensively or something like that and prefers Oscar as number 10.
 
"Bender, Pjanic, Koke, Gundogan, Marchisio, Matuidi, Cabaye, Barkley, Herrera, Rakitic, Matic."
That's a list I came up with off the top of my head of central midfielders who would instantly improve us and are all quality, and we could get them all for probably under 30m apart for Barkley.

I would beat Koke, Gundogan and Matic would all cost more than 30m. Plus Herrera's release clause is over 30m so he would cost more than 30m. Buying in January I'm pretty sure they'd raise the price for the other players too. The only players I'm sure we'd be able to get for under 30m in the January window would be Rakitic, Cabaye and Matuidi.
 
I would beat Koke, Gundogan and Matic would all cost more than 30m. Plus Herrera's release clause is over 30m so he would cost more than 30m. Buying in January I'm pretty sure they'd raise the price for the other players too. The only players I'm sure we'd be able to get for under 30m in the January window would be Rakitic, Cabaye and Matuidi.

Koke would probably be around 30m, Gundogan has a year and a half left on his contract and although I don't think he'd go anywhere this window, there are plenty of rumours of him being valued at 25m right now since he's not willing to extend his contract. Even so, it wouldn't hurt in the slightest to at least try and bid that, because anything under 40 for him would be a bargain. Matic I doubt would cost over 30m but then again, portuguese teams do tend to get crazy amounts for their players. Anyways, what I meant was around 30 million or less, which would apply to them all. The january thing is overstated as well. Sir Alex made excuses every transfer window, like its a world cup year, its a euro cup year, or its the middle of the season and most on here tend to take what he says as fact. Lest you forget though, we signed both Evra and Vidic in the January transfer window for cheap prices, and there have been plenty of other successful transfers that happened in January.

Also, in addition to Rakitic, Cabaye, and Matuidi, I'm sure we'd be able to get Pjanic and Bender as well for around 25 million. Roma isn't exactly rich, and Bender we'd be able to tempt away IMO. Marchisio I feel like we'd be manage to bring as well because he's a quality player who is just a squad player at Juve.
 
The more I think about it, I don't see any possibility of quality being brought in during this window. There is no one available.

This is ridiculous and the same line SAF churned out annually when it was completely false.

The one thing that may dash any chance of signing very good players is the fact that it's a World Cup year and players ideally won't want to acclimatize to a new league, new country and different culture which may hinder their chances of representing their country at the World Cup.

Of course there isn't the same availability in January as there is the Summer and you always run more of a risk with signatures mid-season, but given our precarious situation, we simply have to show ambition and willingness in the market, even if it means over-spending. As another poster has stated, the same regurgitated bullshit line by SAF is potentially a reason in why we have an average squad as of now.

We are blighted by too much dross in the team and there will be players available at the right price, like Shaw, Cabaye, Morrison. We can definitely sign players if we put our money where our mouth is and we need to be pro-active.
 
Have to stop thinking about what we want, not a lot of players want us in the current situation. We are not the most attractive option at the moment.

It's tough and we shouldn't accept it but it's what is happening.
 
Have to stop thinking about what we want, not a lot of players want us in the current situation. We are not the most attractive option at the moment.

It's tough and we shouldn't accept it but it's what is happening.

We are a more attractive proposition than Newcastle, Southampton and West Ham regardless of our current situation.
 
I'm not getting drawn into all this transfer muppetry bollocks after the summer. The club won't do anything, so no use in getting our hopes up.
 
Well Koke isn't going there. Or is he?

Not talking about Koke in particular. I'm talking about players in general and there will be plenty available. It's a bit defeatist to just say we won't or can't sign anyone in January and I hope our club don't have that meek approach this month.

Just put your money where your fecking mouth is and stump up the goods.

EDIT: I'm not suggesting that we will sign players this month, but we certainly can if we are willing to.
 
Not talking about Koke in particular. I'm talking about players in general and there will be plenty available. It's a bit defeatist to just say we won't or can't sign anyone in January and I hope our club don't have that meek approach this month.

Just put your money where your fecking mouth is and stump up the goods.

EDIT: I'm not suggesting that we will sign players this month, but we certainly can if we are willing to.
I never said we won't sign anyone. I don't think we will add champions league quality to the squad in January.
 
Lol at how many different positions people have said we need new players in.

No lol that I agree with most.
 
Martinez says he is 100% sure that Baines will stay apparently. We will see. If Moyes really wants a LB then he'll get him like he got Fellaini IMO, less risk involved too.

What risk are we talking about here? The risk that the player we sign might need a long time to settle or might not be good enough to go up a few levels at United? We clearly had all that risk signing Fellaini. Despite the manager knowing and working with him. Despite him being a premier league signing. Clearly being premier league proven isn't the biggest deal. There's still a good chance that any signing we make, foreign or domestic will still take a year to settle. So all the signings we could make are risks and we should go with whoever is going to be best for the club if they settle.
 
We should just put all our money on Ronaldo, doesn't matter how many we concede because we will score a lot
 
There's no simple fix. If you think that we can solve all our problems in the next couple of transfer windows then you're totally mental.
 
I'm not getting drawn into all this transfer muppetry bollocks after the summer. The club won't do anything, so no use in getting our hopes up.


Same here too, with twitter and fake reports it is so easy to get drawn into it.

On this occasion, and with both Eddy at Moyes at the helm, the chances of us signing anyone of note in Jan is unlikely at best.
 
Same here too, with twitter and fake reports it is so easy to get drawn into it.

On this occasion, and with both Eddy at Moyes at the helm, the chances of us signing anyone of note in Jan is unlikely at best.

I'm not getting drawn into all this transfer muppetry bollocks after the summer. The club won't do anything, so no use in getting our hopes up.


Im with these guys....

I excpect more of no value bollocks.
 
I'd be very surprised if we didnt get even a half decent LB in. But that would be it. I expect no more than that.
 
Have to stop thinking about what we want, not a lot of players want us in the current situation. We are not the most attractive option at the moment.

It's tough and we shouldn't accept it but it's what is happening.

It's not what's happening. We'll have to accept that we're like every other top club and we have to act like one. Even if that means paying more than we want to in wages, paying agents fees, and using go-betweens. It'll also mean in the case of top young talent accepting the idea of release clauses that let them go if they aren't playing regular football.

We may be a special destination to some players, like RvP last year. We're even a special club to some countries, we're Spain's favourite foreign club for example. What we aren't is so special, that we can operate our own rules.
 
I'd be very surprised if we didnt get even a half decent LB in. But that would be it. I expect no more than that.


Sadly, I see that being the case too.
Can't see any of the the big-name midfielders making a move mid-season; and the others will probably see their price inflated unreasonably now and we may balk at that and let them be.
 
It's not what's happening. We'll have to accept that we're like every other top club and we have to act like one. Even if that means paying more than we want to in wages, paying agents fees, and using go-betweens. It'll also mean in the case of top young talent accepting the idea of release clauses that let them go if they aren't playing regular football.

We may be a special destination to some players, like RvP last year. We're even a special club to some countries, we're Spain's favourite foreign club for example. What we aren't is so special, that we can operate our own rules.
I understand the point and agree to an extent but we can't just spend money for the sake of it. Look at Fellaini, the club was forced to buy someone and it looks like it is going to go horribly. We need to continue to conduct smart business. Yes, we have had some horror deals but over the course of the EPL era, we have been good.

I know we are still a massive club who players would love to join but the fact is 10 years ago, there was us and maybe 3 other clubs. Now, there are probably 10-15 clubs who can offer great opportunities to players. Add to that, we are most likely going to be in the Europa League next season, a lot of the top players will see a brighter future elsewhere for the time being.
 
What risk are we talking about here? The risk that the player we sign might need a long time to settle or might not be good enough to go up a few levels at United? We clearly had all that risk signing Fellaini. Despite the manager knowing and working with him. Despite him being a premier league signing. Clearly being premier league proven isn't the biggest deal. There's still a good chance that any signing we make, foreign or domestic will still take a year to settle. So all the signings we could make are risks and we should go with whoever is going to be best for the club if they settle.

Well, for a start i think there would be less pressure for Baines to deal with in comparison to Fellaini. Not sure if that has hurt Fellaini but i would be surprised if it hadn't. Baines on form is the best LB in the league easily and i think he would fit into most sides and he'd excel at a side like United. Baines wouldn't be as expensive as Fellaini either.
 
This season is a write off. It will be a surprise to see us finish top four even if we sign a quality player or two because the team as a whole is disjointed. Our lethargic/arrogant attitude in the market over the past few seasons is finally coming to bite us back. We have spent money poorly and have not been ruthless with some of the underperformers at all. As a result the squad is bottom heavy with far too many average players with very little resale values clogging the wage bill. As astronomical as Real's spending is at times, one thing you can't argue is that they invest in proven quality, and it shows. Even today if they decide to sell a player from their starting eleven, they'd probably be able to get back the amount they bought him for and more.
 
Although i agree with you, what IF they sell to us on the proviso we give them first option on Rooney (if we decided to sell).

Nate come on to feck why would we give them first option on Rooney? The only way Rooney will sign with them is walking away on a free and this is starting to become a real possibility. We don't need Mata type we need a centre midfielder and a left back far more urgently.
 
Nate come on to feck why would we give them first option on Rooney? The only way Rooney will sign with them is walking away on a free and this is starting to become a real possibility. We don't need Mata type we need a centre midfielder and a left back far more urgently.


Rooney contract expires in 2015, i was referring to him being sold this summer.

Either way i really can't see it though.
 
We should snap up that South American lad, Deus ex Machina. We're gonna need him...