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In what ways do you consider him similar to Giggs? I don't know much about Giggs' early days, but I have the impression he had a furious pace and acted much as a typical winger seeking the end line to cross.

Whilst your previous post saying that James is effectively a winger is true (that's were he always played for us - we have been playing 4-3-3 for years), I still maintain that he would be better in a more middle role. His pace is nothing like what I've seen from Giggs' early days (he's not slow either, I'd call it an average pace for a top attacker) and even when we used him in the left he rarely use it to cross.

He seeks the middle ground all the time, whether he's on the left or the right, and that's more of a liability when he's in the left as he loses a lot of passing and shooting ability that way. It's quite obvious now with Hulk gone and with James shifted to the right that his productivity is increasing at an alarming rate. He his a good dribbler, but most of his effect in the field is seen through his great shots (something that he can still yet improve) and assists, mostly through ground openings, not crosses. He crosses well from dead ball positions though.

To sum it up, I think he's worth a lot more on the right than the left, and probably even more in the middle, behind the strikers in an advanced midfield role. The later is just an unconfirmed gut feeling though.
 
Rodriguez would be a replacement for the retiring Giggs. We can have both James and Nani.

Rodriguez is much more similar to a young Giggs anyway. What's all the fuss.

He's an ultra quick and skillful lefty? I thought he was more keen on playing centrally.
 
This is the type of comment that I hate. CLEARLY Nani has upsetted Fergie in some way - otherwise Nani would be one of the first names on the team sheet. If Nani has wronged Fergie, then it wouldn't be an error if Fergie lets him go. Fergie has principles, and he sticks by them. If RVP played up a fuss tomorrow and upsetted Fergie and he decided to get rid of him, I'd be on Fergie's side all the way (I would be dissapointed, but nevertheless).

Nani isn't God's gift. He may be one hell of a talented player - but he's also one of the most frustrating players I've ever watched, and he's as inconsistent as a duck. Nani isn't irreplaceable.

This I agree with. If Fergie decides to get rid of Nani, it will be for good reasons - most likely not related to on-pitch issues. Nani has a tremendous talent, but for reasons unknown to us, he isn't showing his best this season, not even when he is given good chances in the CL.

Hopefully things will be resolved and he'll stay, but as with you, I'll be on Fergie's side all the way, yet dissapointed.
 
He's a pacey (though not extremely so) natural left footed winger with excellent ability to cut inside. I haven't been able to watch him much this year with Porto, but his first year there he seemed to always be out on the wing when I saw him, and his early years in Colombia and Argentina he was a winger.

He's begun to play a more inside role with the Colombian national side right now after being used almost strictly as a winger. Imo, he's much more comparable to Giggs than Nani.
 
This is the type of comment that I hate. CLEARLY Nani has upsetted Fergie in some way - otherwise Nani would be one of the first names on the team sheet. If Nani has wronged Fergie, then it wouldn't be an error if Fergie lets him go. Fergie has principles, and he sticks by them. If RVP played up a fuss tomorrow and upsetted Fergie and he decided to get rid of him, I'd be on Fergie's side all the way (I would be dissapointed, but nevertheless).

Nani isn't God's gift. He may be one hell of a talented player - but he's also one of the most frustrating players I've ever watched, and he's as inconsistent as a duck. Nani isn't irreplaceable.

Spot on. Yes Nani's a talented player and would be an asset to any team in the world, but if he breaks the club's rules or code of conduct and thus undermines Fergie (or any other manager for that matter) then he's got to go. What's that phrase - "nobody is bigger than the club"?

He's a player who has developed immensely in his time at the club, but he still hasn't become the player that he has the potential to be. Admittedly he was forced to live in Ronaldo's shadow for many years, but I'd still consider him to be a player who never truly reached his potential if he were to leave.

Some posters seem to think it's like FIFA, where players train in silence, don't form opinions and everything is rosy all the time.
 
In what ways do you consider him similar to Giggs? I don't know much about Giggs' early days, but I have the impression he had a furious pace and acted much as a typical winger seeking the end line to cross.

Whilst your previous post saying that James is effectively a winger is true (that's were he always played for us - we have been playing 4-3-3 for years), I still maintain that he would be better in a more middle role. His pace is nothing like what I've seen from Giggs' early days (he's not slow either, I'd call it an average pace for a top attacker) and even when we used him in the left he rarely use it to cross.

He seeks the middle ground all the time, whether he's on the left or the right, and that's more of a liability when he's in the left as he loses a lot of passing and shooting ability that way. It's quite obvious now with Hulk gone and with James shifted to the right that his productivity is increasing at an alarming rate. He his a good dribbler, but most of his effect in the field is seen through his great shots (something that he can still yet improve) and assists, mostly through ground openings, not crosses. He crosses well from dead ball positions though.

To sum it up, I think he's worth a lot more on the right than the left, and probably even more in the middle, behind the strikers in an advanced midfield role. The later is just an unconfirmed gut feeling though.

Yeah, he's great on either side, and I would agree with you that as more of a central attacking midfielder seems to be his evolution. His talent is growing and I think he's too good to remain out on the wing.
 
In what ways do you consider him similar to Giggs? I don't know much about Giggs' early days, but I have the impression he had a furious pace and acted much as a typical winger seeking the end line to cross.

Whilst your previous post saying that James is effectively a winger is true (that's were he always played for us - we have been playing 4-3-3 for years), I still maintain that he would be better in a more middle role. His pace is nothing like what I've seen from Giggs' early days (he's not slow either, I'd call it an average pace for a top attacker) and even when we used him in the left he rarely use it to cross.

He seeks the middle ground all the time, whether he's on the left or the right, and that's more of a liability when he's in the left as he loses a lot of passing and shooting ability that way. It's quite obvious now with Hulk gone and with James shifted to the right that his productivity is increasing at an alarming rate. He his a good dribbler, but most of his effect in the field is seen through his great shots (something that he can still yet improve) and assists, mostly through ground openings, not crosses. He crosses well from dead ball positions though.

To sum it up, I think he's worth a lot more on the right than the left, and probably even more in the middle, behind the strikers in an advanced midfield role. The later is just an unconfirmed gut feeling though.

So basically he's a lot like Silva position-wise, although nothing like him end product-wise because he scores a lot
 
is he right or left footed? what is his best position?

would be great if he is left footed and play on the left wing.
 
He's left footed but as our Porto supporting poster has said, he isnt going to stay out wide and gets attracted to the middle of the pitch. He also plays on the right for Porto I believe
 
I think if we managed to get a direct swop for James with Nani, it would suit all parties. But knowing Porto, they would probably make us cough up Nani & another 15 million pounds.
 
Spot on. Yes Nani's a talented player and would be an asset to any team in the world, but if he breaks the club's rules or code of conduct and thus undermines Fergie (or any other manager for that matter) then he's got to go. What's that phrase - "nobody is bigger than the club"?

He's a player who has developed immensely in his time at the club, but he still hasn't become the player that he has the potential to be. Admittedly he was forced to live in Ronaldo's shadow for many years, but I'd still consider him to be a player who never truly reached his potential if he were to leave.

I think that he did reach his potential a couple of seasons back when he won the internal best player award. I think that is about his ceiling.

Nani has been one of my favourite players over the past few seasons. I agree with you though, if he has stepped out of line in the eyes of the manager, then he deserves to go. He has already left in my mind and I don't care if he doesn't play again for us, his mind is clearly elsewhere now anyway.
 
I think if we managed to get a direct swop for James with Nani, it would suit all parties. But knowing Porto, they would probably make us cough up Nani & another 15 million pounds.

How on earth would it suit Nani?

Shortly after joining us he rejected advances from Barcelona. Now he's going to leave for Sporting's rivals?
 
In what ways do you consider him similar to Giggs? I don't know much about Giggs' early days, but I have the impression he had a furious pace and acted much as a typical winger seeking the end line to cross.

Whilst your previous post saying that James is effectively a winger is true (that's were he always played for us - we have been playing 4-3-3 for years), I still maintain that he would be better in a more middle role. His pace is nothing like what I've seen from Giggs' early days (he's not slow either, I'd call it an average pace for a top attacker) and even when we used him in the left he rarely use it to cross.

He seeks the middle ground all the time, whether he's on the left or the right, and that's more of a liability when he's in the left as he loses a lot of passing and shooting ability that way. It's quite obvious now with Hulk gone and with James shifted to the right that his productivity is increasing at an alarming rate. He his a good dribbler, but most of his effect in the field is seen through his great shots (something that he can still yet improve) and assists, mostly through ground openings, not crosses. He crosses well from dead ball positions though.

To sum it up, I think he's worth a lot more on the right than the left, and probably even more in the middle, behind the strikers in an advanced midfield role. The later is just an unconfirmed gut feeling though.

Sounds just like David Silva. And we would all take him in a flash.
 
I think if we managed to get a direct swop for James with Nani, it would suit all parties. But knowing Porto, they would probably make us cough up Nani & another 15 million pounds.

There's absolutely no chance Nani would accept something like that. It just doesn't happen. First, if his problem at United is his contract, surely it won't be by signing with Porto that he will be better paid. Second, for a player of his ilk, returning to the home league is an acknowledgement of a failed career, even if for such a reputed club as Porto. I only remember such a thing happening once, with Quaresma, but he was far worse for Barcelona than Nani has ever been to United. (EDIT - Simão is another example similar to Quaresma)

Nani surely has the chance to play at another big club in England or Italy. If money is the main motivator he can also go to Russia or France. There's absolutely no reason for him to consider coming to Porto. I'd obviously be delighted if that happen, but find it extremely unrealistic.
 
Great potential in him. Not only an outstanding dribbler but also solid finisher.

I really hope he won't end in PSG or something like that. United could really use his skills on the wing.

Valencia-Rodriguez-Nani-Young combo would be almost exciting as attacking one with RVP-Rooney-Hernandez-Welbeck.
 
Isnt his buy out price something ridiculous? I doubt we can afford him.

We were going to pay 30m for Lucas. That money is still there as RVP was on his way regardless. I think Fergie's comments when he was asked if we were interested in James were curious, un-Fergie like, if you will.

'I hope that we are not interested in him because Porto make people pay a lot'
 
His buy-out is €45m (if it hasn't been changed recently) but as every buy out, it's negotiable.

I'm a bit concerned about our financial situation and ability to keep selling players at hyper-inflated prices. If FFP works as intended, we will be severely affected by it.

We have a few players worth a few quid already (Moutinho, possibly Maicon and Martínez) and others with future potential (Danilo, Alex Sandro, Mangala, Atsu) but in an emergency situation I think we will have to sell them for less than what we want and Rodríguez is one of the most likely to take us out of a tight spot. As the club is about to issue another €18m bond then it's not far fetched to think we'll be forced into a selling position sooner rather than latter, and in those circumstances it will be the prospective buyers to set the price, not us.
 
Valencia-Rodriguez-Nani-Young combo would be almost exciting as attacking one with RVP-Rooney-Hernandez-Welbeck.

If Nani stays, I don't think that he will come. Saying that I don't believe that we will add another expensive attacking player without selling one (most likely Nani).
 
Would you say he's the best attacking player in the Portuguese league right now Arruda?

Without a doubt. He's already the best and can only improve.

Not that there are many contestants right now.
 
Left foot, ability to play on the right,left or through the center, good goal threat, young - with plenty upside, United fan. There is a lot to like about J-Rod. Getting him at a decent price from Porto would be a challenge though. If Nani is leaving, he is one of the few player that ticks a lot of boxes with our needs. I wouldn't be disappointed if we went for him. Let's see what happens
 
If Nani stays, I don't think that he will come. Saying that I don't believe that we will add another expensive attacking player without selling one (most likely Nani).

Makes you wonder what would have happened had we gotten Hazard or Lucas.
 
Was fantastic last night for Colombia in their electrifying 1 - 1 draw with Brazil. He was all over midfield, attacking, creating, tracking back, and flying down the left wing as well. Seems like Peckerman just lets him loose in midfield to get the best out of him. He has to be on the radar of most big sides by now, especially after last night. He tore Brazil to shreads.

And on the right side an upcoming massive star for Colombia is breaking out, Juan Guillermo Cuadrado. Plays for Fiorentina at the moment. I'm guardedly optimistic, but this Colombian attack of Falcao, Jackson Martinez, James Rodriguez and Juan Guillermo Cuadrado, held together by CM Macnelly Torres, should have a brilliant future. Absolutely tore through Brazil last night
 
I forgot to watch the game last night on ESPN, good to hear that he played well, he seems an interesting prospect.
 
Was impressive in the Champions League. Adding more goals to his game. Better than Walcott. Have a look at Arruda's posts above. He is the resident Porto fan. :)
 
Ugh, we wont be buying anyone in january if they are cup tied. Why do people even bother with these rumours?
 
Ugh, we wont be buying anyone in january if they are cup tied. Why do people even bother with these rumours?

Not too sure how much of a bad thing being cup tied is tbh. We rotate like feck anyway so would just him in the league leaving Valencia/Young fresh for Europe.

No biggy really.
 
Not too sure how much of a bad thing being cup tied is tbh. We rotate like feck anyway so would just him in the league leaving Valencia/Young fresh for Europe.

No biggy really.

Yes, because that's exactly what we do every other year. There is a reason we don't buy players in that is it. Fergie even said so last year that it's difficult in january to bring a player in. Last time we brought in players in january who played frequently were Vidic and Evra, and that year we were out of europe anyway.
 
I don't think Fergie is that short-termist in his thinking. Rodriguez is just 21 and might play for us for the next ten years. Being unavailable in Europe for a half season wouldn't scupper the deal.
 
According to Manchester evening news if we can get rid of Nani in the January transfer window James Rodriguez will be coming in. Anyone being watching him this season? hows he playing?

Literally just heard we're looking at Walcott, surely not :(

So are you looking at both? Or you heard two different things from two different sources?
 
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