James Rodriguez | joins Bayern Munich | 2 year loan

James Rodriguez - should we go for him?

  • Yes

    Votes: 404 34.6%

  • No

    Votes: 565 48.4%

  • I hate Silly Season

    Votes: 198 17.0%
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Offside said:
I'd be okay with another £70 odd million going out.
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On someone better yeah, but he's not worth more than when they bought him.

RDCR07 said:
How exactly did we feck them over with Morata?
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We negotiated for them for weeks, they stated a price and we objected and then went and paid the same price for an inferior player, so we just messed around as the prices were even.
 
Devil may care said:
On someone better yeah, but he's not worth more than when they bought him.



We negotiated for them for weeks, they stated a price and we objected and then went and paid the same price for an inferior player, so we just messed around as the prices were even.
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I still dont see how it is fecking over someone. We would have fecked over Madrid if we had agreed to sign him, them doing a couple of deals based on the fact that we were going to pay them and then we refused to pay them by cancelling the deal. Thats fecking over someone. Negotiating for a player and walking away since the price isnt right is not.
 
RDCR07 said:
How exactly did we feck them over with Morata?
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I think we used him as a smokescreen for Lukaku. Real wanted to fleece us for £80m and presumed we'd cough up the cash to fund their Mbappe bid.

They're going to be left with a unhappy player especially as the season goes on sat on the bench in a World Cup year.
 
Castia said:
I think we used him as a smokescreen for Lukaku. Real wanted to fleece us for £80m and presumed we'd cough up the cash to fund their Mbappe bid.

They're going to be left with a unhappy player especially as the season goes on sat on the bench in a World Cup year.
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Is he really unhappy? If he was he should have made more noise about leaving. He wanted to play it safe so as to not anger the fans and the board and now he stuck playing second fiddle to Benz when resident Madrid fans are saying he should be the one starting. Also Spain dont really have too many options. If he stays at Madrid, he is still going to score 15 goals for them and will go to the WC as backup to Costa and thats worst case scenario. Also dont forget that it looks like Costa wont be playing till new years. So again this is in favor of Morata.
 
Van Piorsing said:
Players like James or even Morata aren't cheap but they're realistic targets for any club, looking for improvement both in the league & CL.

For now, I don't see many candidates for taking number 10 in United and James ticks few important boxes. His commercial range is far bigger than Rooney's, his Instagram alone got more followers than almost all United players combined so probably a big chunk of money spent could return to Woodward sooner or later.

United probably won't get Bale, Alli or Kane so maybe it's a good time to set sight on players that are ready to leave and still are in perfect age for new challenge.
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Alli is not a better 10 than James anyway.
 
RDCR07 said:
Is he really unhappy? If he was he should have made more noise about leaving. He wanted to play it safe so as to not anger the fans and the board and now he stuck playing second fiddle to Benz when resident Madrid fans are saying he should be the one starting. Also Spain dont really have too many options. If he stays at Madrid, he is still going to score 15 goals for them and will go to the WC as backup to Costa and thats worst case scenario.
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I don't think he's kicking the door down to force a move but he wants to play regularly, if he's not getting a sniff by January it could turn ugly.
 
Castia said:
I don't think he's kicking the door down to force a move but he wants to play regularly, if he's not getting a sniff by January it could turn ugly.
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Well thats my point. Eventually he has to make some noise about moving if he wants a team to come in for him. In my opinion, if he had publicly said he wanted to leave for United last month when it all started, it would have been a done deal in a week. Madrid and Perez would have been upset, maybe lowered the asking price by 10-15m and we would have not have hesitated at 60m pounds.
 
K2K said:
It seems Madrid want him out and have been trying to sell him for a while now. He doesn't seem to really want to leave.

Expect him to still be at the club at the of the window.
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Quite the opposite. They like him and want him to stay. If Benz is injured, they will have no problem in starting him as their #9.
 
Would have him here, i think he could surprise a few.

Hearing commentators say "Hamez" instead of James does irrationally annoy me at the best of times lol, but i would deal with it, if he came to us.
 
RDCR07 said:
Quite the opposite. They like him and want him to stay. If Benz is injured, they will have no problem in starting him as their #9.
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The Madrid character assassinations started long before.

Same thing like Di Maria and Ozil.

Hes unlikely to be starting many games. Been benchwarming for almost 2 years now.

He's behind players like Ansenio even.
 
K2K said:
The Madrid character assassinations started long before.

Same thing like Di Maria and Ozil.

Hes unlikely to be starting many games. Been benchwarming for almost 2 years now.

He's behind players like Ansenio even.
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What the hell you talking about? Benchwarming for two years? He was Juventus for two season and they just brought him back last year.
 
Organic Potatoes said:
It's true- South Americans are rarely any good at this sport anyways.
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RedPed said:
*sigh* that old chestnut again!
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I don't think it's wholly untrue, though. The historical lack of visibility of English football (and Manchester United with that) on Latin American TV means that we're generally seen as rich clubs who you go to play for to earn money. As opposed to Italian and Spanish clubs that you play for to become a part of a prestigious and cultural phenomenon.

Obviously, those who hold that interpretation are wrong. But it's not a million miles off how some people might look at PSG/Monaco in the French league or something. I think there's a lack of awareness which means South Americans are generally less committed when they come here - not that that makes them bad people. It's just how their upbringing has conditioned them to look at the global footballing landscape.

The good news is that there are more and more exceptions as time goes on. Hopefully, we'll be on par with the continent in a decade's time.
 
Another Real Madrid player. No way in heck Spain sells James to a team they may play in the Champions League. Plus, Real Madrid's owners don't like Manchester United.

Better chance of getting Messi than any RM player. Moving on. James will go elsewhere.
 
I don't want a 10, but I'd definitely take him over Perisic if it's only 20M or so difference.

----Lukaku/Morata------ (Rashford)
Martial-James-Mkhitarayn (Mata, Lingard)
-----Pogba--Herrera------ (Matic/Fabinho, Fellaini)

looks promising, and when the 3rd CM plays, one of Mkhitaryan, Martial or James can be benched. Doubt all 3 will be on form anyways with Mourinho surely finding a reason to dislike one. Healthy number of starts for Rashford spelling the 9 and Mata spelling the 3 behind them.

Not perfect, but there's a lot of quality there.
 
prtk0811 said:
South american flair players rarely settle in this league and in Manchester.
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So most south american flair players have a weak mentality?

Cos I am still wondering how you came to the conclusion that both Ozil and James have a weak mentality if you are not their therapist?
 
I want him. I'm up for a bit of flair now. Someone who does the spectacular.
 
Could he play the lampard role?

He strikes the ball very well with his left, if we sign him we'd see some nice goals.
 
AkaAkuma said:
Could he play the lampard role?

He strikes the ball very well with his left, if we sign him we'd see some nice goals.
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He'd make a good right winger to be honest. He'll have Valencia covering in for him when he makes his slashing runs.

I'd be happy with Rodriguez, but it's RMs ridiculous price tag for one of their dispensable players, they're asking €70m. I'm sure they'll slash the price a bit after the signing of Ceballos?
 
cheeky_backheel said:
Cos I am still wondering how you came to the conclusion that both Ozil and James have a weak mentality if you are not their therapist?
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You know what I'd really like to know how poster's know that by just watching the players on TV. The way they throw all this mentality talk, you'd think that they were either footballers or the footballer's therapist. Mentality is effectively the main reason why some people want a Perisic signed for £50m, how did they judge that, I wonder.
 
Red_Orchestra said:
He'd make a good right winger to be honest. He'll have Valencia covering in for him when he makes his slashing runs.

I'd be happy with Rodriguez, but it's RMs ridiculous price tag for one of their dispensable players, they're asking €70m. I'm sure they'll slash the price a bit after the signing of Ceballos?
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If it was down to me, I'd rather not do business with Real Madrid at the moment. Let them find other suckers to pay them €160m (€90m for Morata and €70m for James) for their 2 disgruntled substitutes.
 
The thing he would add is that star quality to turn a game and make a decisive moment. James has wonderful delivery and would be an immediate improvement for our crossing, set pieces, through balls and finishing.

With Zlatan gone, we're missing that on a regular basis. We appear to be getting a very good replacement up top but bringing James in adds an extra level of class and match defining quality to our midfield. Essentially reapportioning our ability to do so from being solely up front to having very good prospects from more attacking phases.
 
I would love James here. He's a world class talent. Can play for us as a 10 in a midfield 3 against most sides, or as a right sided inside forward against tougher sides. He has a level of quality that we are still sorely missing IMO. He's certainly a tier above Mkhitaryan and Mata. And TBH we should have our squad chocked full of top quality players in every position. There are more than enough games - too many games - to warrant it.

Couple of front 6 options depending on opposition. Each leaving us with Rashford, Mata, Lingard for the rotation:

Lukaku

Martial_______James______Mkhitaryan

Pogba____Herrera

or

Lukaku

Martial______________________James

Pogba______Herrera

DM​
 
simonhch said:
I would love James here. He's a world class talent. Can play for us as a 10 in a midfield 3 against most sides, or as a right sided inside forward against tougher sides. He has a level of quality that we are still sorely missing IMO. He's certainly a tier above Mkhitaryan and Mata. And TBH we should have our squad chocked full of top quality players in every position. There are more than enough games - too many games - to warrant it.

Couple of front 6 options depending on opposition. Each leaving us with Rashford, Mata, Lingard for the rotation:

Lukaku

Martial_______James______Mkhitaryan

Pogba____Herrera

or

Lukaku

Martial______________________James

Pogba______Herrera

DM​
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That 4-2-3-1 if Martial can replicate his first season's form is mint! :drool:
 
Real madrid are very likely to sign ceballos, if they do jamez will even be further down the pecking order and may not even make bench. He will leave. I would be happy with a 40 million euro deal at max if we are to take him.
 
I think he's worth around €50m and he's a decent free kick taker and a leftie, I think he'd be a good buy personally.
 
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