James Rodriguez | joins Bayern Munich | 2 year loan

James Rodriguez - should we go for him?

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    Votes: 404 34.6%
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So has this been revived or is it just clutching at straws from the usual untrusted sorces?

It seem there is a lot of them saying this is happening!
 
Looks like someone is trying to drum up interest. He was coming to United a month ago. That story went away. He was going to PSG.. That is quiet now. He is going back to United again.

Either Madrid or his camp are trying to get a club to bid for him.
 
No chance we're getting Morata AND James without De Gea going the other way. My reading of the situation is that we're likely getting Morata as our next striker, going elsewhere for a winger/AM and aiming to keep DDG in Manchester.
 
No chance we're getting Morata AND James without De Gea going the other way. My reading of the situation is that we're likely getting Morata as our next striker, going elsewhere for a winger/AM and aiming to keep DDG in Manchester.

I don't think getting James would affect David going the other way at all, they want him out so they can get another shiny new toy.
 
No chance we're getting Morata AND James without De Gea going the other way. My reading of the situation is that we're likely getting Morata as our next striker, going elsewhere for a winger/AM and aiming to keep DDG in Manchester.
Im not so sure. Firstly i believe DDG does not want to move to Madrid anymore after being dicked around at faxgate. And as for Hamez, is there any credibility in the news of the last few days. There is a lot of smoke but it could be all of their own making to drum up interest.

I rely on the cafe for my news, they usually sus out the fakes and if nothing else its entertaining reading
 
Perez also insists that James Rodriguez will not be leaving the Bernabeu, once again underlining the importance of keeping together a squad who won a famous double last season.

Perez continued: ‘He is one of the best players in the world, he belongs to Madrid and Madrid players do not leave when they want to or their parents wants them to.

‘We have to match the interests of the players with ours, but mostly those of Madrid.
 
@Adnan
Referring to your quoted tweet just above...

please tell me if this MAJ guy is a recognised source, but I've now seen two tweets from him and both make him out as a delusional Madrid fan with too much time on his hands.
 
So you want our best midfielder from last year to be on the bench to make way for a #10 when Pogba/Mata/Mkhi can play there. We have players who are capable of playing there yet we push them to the wing where they arent as effective and then try to shoe horn in another #10? Makes no sense.
Should we re-sign Zlatan as well cos he was our best goal scorer last season? The aim should be a setup that is best for the team and if Herrera starting is sacrificed, so be it.

To start Herrera is to play 4-3-3 in which a team that has struggled to score goals are playing with only 3 true attacking players. We dont have the quality upfront for that. (You can compare our potential attacking trio to any of the other top teams playing 4-3-3 and one can see the difference in quality.) A 4-2-3-1 gives us an additional attacker and we are better off with a #10 who can contribute goals and assists than starting another CM alongside Pogba. We should be playing with only one CM and that should be Pogba. Herrera can play as DM but we would likely get a better DM this summer.

Saying we have players who can play in a position without considering how well they can play the position or elsewhere is disingenuous. If that is the case, why buy any player at all, after all we have one or more players that can play in any of the positions.

Pogba is our best CM and he should not be played out of position just to accommodate Herrera. Mkhi is best suited to playing on the right flank. Mata is the only true #10 we have but we can do better -whether the replacement is James or someone else is secondary.

I actually like Herrera on the bench in a 4-2-3-1 cos it means we have 3 very good players for 2 positions, as opposed to a 4-3-3 where we only have 3 good players for the 3 positions and any absence due to injury, fatigue, or suspension, means one of Carrick, Fellaini or Pereira starts - that is not a situation I would like to see. To play a 4-3-3 would require we have 5 quality players for the 3 midfield position and doubt we can get that this window. Even then we would still struggle upfront which was our biggest problem last season.
 
I have a feeling he's just ignored by us/PSG/Arsenal (assuming they'l lose Sanchez and contribute a large salary) until the final days of the window when one of the clubs wished for a better window than they had and opt to panic buy James.

Looks like Madrid want to sell him.
 
@Adnan
Referring to your quoted tweet just above...

please tell me if this MAJ guy is a recognised source, but I've now seen two tweets from him and both make him out as a delusional Madrid fan with too much time on his hands.
He's good for translating foreign media outlets. He doesn't claim to have his own sources
 
Should we re-sign Zlatan as well cos he was our best goal scorer last season? The aim should be a setup that is best for the team and if Herrera starting is sacrificed, so be it.
If he wasnt injured then hell fecking yes. Such a weird comparison. One is injured and out till new years and the other is still fit with not many options available in the market to replace him.
 
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'Rodriguez to United odds plummet'
That’s the headline of a press release which has just dropped into one of our inboxes.

Amusingly, the betting group’s head of trading has informed us - with an actual quote - that United have made Rodriguez ‘their number one priority’, which is remarkably good knowledge for someone in the betting industry.

For the umpteenth time, there is absolutely no suggestion United want Rodriguez. If one player symbolises the madness of the transfer window it is Rodriguez.

To quote Red Ish’s Mister Spleen: “Let me rephrase that for you: ‘James Rodriguez’s agent is trying to sell him to anyone daft enough to pay.’”

Two or three years ago, United would have been daft enough to pay loadsamoney for an unwanted South American. The mud has stuck.

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We wont be getting James and Morata. Would be nice, but i dont see it. Real would rinse us for both, they are already asking too much for Morata.
 
We wont be getting James and Morata. Would be nice, but i dont see it. Real would rinse us for both, they are already asking too much for Morata.
The club could still salvage some funds by getting rid of weakest links but I don't think money is the biggest problem, such as quality of the squad in some departments. If Jose will want him, he will get him as player is ready to leave immediately and that could actually help a bit.
 
If he wasnt injured then hell fecking yes. Such a weird comparison. One is injured and out till new years and the other is still fit with not many options available in the market to replace him.
Think I get your point - if zlatan wasnt injured we should not sign a new younger and potentially better striker but instead stick with a 36yr old that slows down and limits our attack simply cos he scored a lot of goals last season.

With Pogba and a new DM, we dont need Herrera to start no matter how good he was last season. Trying to force Herrera into a starting spot will only make us more defensive and worsen our already poor scoring attack. If Herrera wasnt already a united player, we wouldnt be looking to sign him cos he would not be filling a pressing need.

FYI, if Barca do follow through on their rumored interest with a big enough offer, I would have no qualms with the club selling him and getting a younger and more talented replacement.
 
Think I get your point - if zlatan wasnt injured we should not sign a new younger and potentially better striker but instead stick with a 36yr old that slows down and limits our attack simply cos he scored a lot of goals last season.

With Pogba and a new DM, we dont need Herrera to start no matter how good he was last season. Trying to force Herrera into a starting spot will only make us more defensive and worsen our already poor scoring attack. If Herrera wasnt already a united player, we wouldnt be looking to sign him cos he would not be filling a pressing need.

FYI, if Barca do follow through on their rumored interest with a big enough offer, I would have no qualms with the club selling him and getting a younger and more talented replacement.
Again your missing the point. We arent signing Zlatan on a five year deal. We are signing him for 12 more months. At this point we are forced to spend 80m on Morata cause we have no choice. In 12 months time, Rashford and Martial would have matured more, got more experienced and maybe they both will 20 goal seasons. If that happens, just keep playing them and buy Griezmann next season.
 
Again your missing the point. We arent signing Zlatan on a five year deal. We are signing him for 12 more months. At this point we are forced to spend 80m on Morata cause we have no choice. In 12 months time, Rashford and Martial would have matured more, got more experienced and maybe they both will 20 goal seasons. If that happens, just keep playing them and buy Griezmann next season.
Even with a fit Zlatan, we were poor upfront this season, failing to score enough goals and having too many draws. We qualified for CL only through winning the EL.

But instead of spending money to improve our attack, your are suggesting we go into the next season with same quality of players, hoping that the best goal scorer among them repeats his form despite being closer to 40 and wishful hope that some 20-22yr old kids improve greatly to 20+goals in a season. Just so we can try again to sign a guy that failed to join us this summer when we needed him more. That is a recipe for failure in my opinion.

Morata may be overpriced at 80m (no certainty he would cost as much) but that is the consequence of failing to buy quality strikers in the past and waiting for another season will not make it cheaper as some of the big clubs like Bayern, Madrid and barca will likely be in the market next summer and there will likely be fewer proven strikers available.

Each summer , the club should sign the best players they can get based on te needs and resources available. Next summer, we review and sign other appropriate players.
 
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But instead of spending money to improve our attack, your are suggesting we go into the next season with same quality of players, hoping that the best goal scorer among them repeats his form despite being closer to 40 and wishful hope that some 20-22yr old kids improve greatly to 20+goals in a season. Just so we can try again to sign a guy that failed to join us this summer when we needed him more. That is a recipe for failure in my opinion.
Why do you keep assuming things? Did I even come remotely to saying we wont buy anyone new? I said we wont be forced to spend 80m on Morata which doesnt mean we wont strengthen elsewhere. We could have used that 80m towards someone like a Dembele or even Mbappe or any other winger/#10. No guarantee its a done deal but just show them youre interested and that they can play alongside Zlatan and Pogba.
 
Why do you keep assuming things? Did I even come remotely to saying we wont buy anyone new? I said we wont be forced to spend 80m on Morata which doesnt mean we wont strengthen elsewhere. We could have used that 80m towards someone like a Dembele or even Mbappe or any other winger/#10. No guarantee its a done deal but just show them youre interested and that they can play alongside Zlatan and Pogba.
I am not assuming cos that is what your previous post and latest post implies in that we continue with Zlatan, Rashford and Martial. Both Mbappe and Dembele are unproven kids and not the kind of player we should be pursuing at this time (we have enough kids upfront). We simply cannot afford to go into next season with the same attacking trio of Zlatan (even uninjured), Rashford and Martial.

Morata would have likely still been a priority target and the price would likely be same. Zlatan's injury has little to no impact on the pricing of Morata. What is more relevant is the pricing of the alternatives in the market e.g. Auba, Lukaku, etc. Zlatan cannot be our starting #9 if we are serious about challenging in PL and Europe and Morata is likely the best option the club sees at the moment.
 
I am not assuming cos that is what your previous post and latest post implies in that we continue with Zlatan, Rashford and Martial. Both Mbappe and Dembele are unproven kids and not the kind of player we should be pursuing at this time (we have enough kids upfront). We simply cannot afford to go into next season with the same attacking trio of Zlatan (even uninjured), Rashford and Martial.
We werent going to go in with just them 3. We had Griezmann lined up and when all of a sudden the ban came into place, we had to rethink our whole transfer strategy.
 
We werent going to go in with just them 3. We had Griezmann lined up and when all of a sudden the ban came into place, we had to rethink our whole transfer strategy.
The club was fully aware that the ban was already in place and Atletico were only appealing to try and shorten it. It would be shocking if any of the parties did not consider the situation of Atletico's appeal failing.

Even without the ban, Atletico were unlikely to sell Griezmann for less than his release clause. To me, his failure to join was simply a decision by the player himself and don't think the club should make current and/or future transfer plans based on his possible future joining or otherwise.

As to the current transfer window and squad situation, our attack is simply not potent enough. We need to play with at least 4 true attackers to make up with the lack of quality with numbers and cannot afford the luxury of playing with a midfield trio when we dont need to.

I definitely do not support the notion of starting Herrera in a midfield trio nor the demand for a winger, particularly Perisic, chanted by some fans. The quality of attacking trio that would make a 4-3-3 feasible are not available this summer. We have decent quality on the flank and players like Perisic are not of the quality level needed to make us better. (Still think all the Perisic rumors are marketing ploys by Inter).

Currently our best starting attack is likely Rashford+Mkhi+Martial+Mata and I think we can improve on both Martial and Mata. Potentially signing Morata+James to give a quartet of Rashord+Mkhi+Morata+James would make us much more potent. If there are better players that can be gotten, I am fine with that as well.

We dont even have a single player than can really grab the game by the scruff of the neck :(
 
Morata
------Perisic---------James------Mkhitaryan--
-----Pogba-----Matic----
----Shaw-----Lindelof---Bailly------Valencia
De Gea
Subs: Romero, Rojo, Jones, Herrera, Mata, Martial, Rashford

I would be happy with that for next year. I'm not keen on Perisic from what i've seen but I trust Mourinho.
You really think our player of the year will get benched and a player who is utterly slow and usually forgets where he is on the pitch and needs a destroyer like Herrera alongside him to work would play alongside Pogba
 
My concern is that where are we going to put James in our Mid. Pogba likes to run forward from left. James is left and and if we play him as a 10 then we are have to move Mkhi to one of the wings and we all know by default Mkhi likes to come in as he is not a line hugging winger. Martial would also like to come in. Wouldn't we be too crowded in the middle and the width which we were lacking last year would be even more evident
 
You really think our player of the year will get benched and a player who is utterly slow and usually forgets where he is on the pitch and needs a destroyer like Herrera alongside him to work would play alongside Pogba

That would be my team, yes.
 
I think it's fair to say there's no chance of this happening now :lol:

Not like it was ever on before IMO.
 
Id say Madrid have our number on the auto-reject list at this point and any emails from us automatically class as spam. Not like we can contact them by fax either :lol::lol::lol:
 
I think it's fair to say there's no chance of this happening now :lol:

Not like it was ever on before IMO.
What difference does that matter, as long as it burns down a rain forrests in newspaper headlines and leaves another los blanco unsettled, its all good.
 
Independent saying we are deep in talks regarding signing James.

If nothing else recent events have told us the media mostly know nothing. If this is true, however, I think the power balance has significantly shifted since we signed Lukaku. We've shown them they can't take the piss.

By all accounts Real are looking to shift James to accommodate Mbappe. There don't seem to be any takers. Time to lowball, or are we no way interested in this player?
 
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