James Rodriguez | joins Bayern Munich | 2 year loan

James Rodriguez - should we go for him?

  • Yes

    Votes: 404 34.6%

  • No

    Votes: 565 48.4%

  • I hate Silly Season

    Votes: 198 17.0%
  • Total voters
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Shuriken said:
What I deserve? :lol: This business of being honest and all… getting upset and replying accordingly – on a personal level, drawing lazy conclusions from one post.

A very good first season at Real and a decent return… this year? What is that, half of a season? So, in total he's had one very good season and half of a decent one.

Regardless, Shamez is still massively overrated and the biggest issue is what he represents in our sport – too much hype for far too little, along with gullible fans who swallow the bait.

Hopefully, he's the last of his kind, which of course won't be the case.
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How is James massively overrated? He was never thought to be one of the best number 10s, he was always thought to be overvalued in his transfer (which was for commercial reasons rather than purely from a football perspective) and the poll in this caf has more people not wanting him than otherwise. He's not overrated anywhere.

All you've done is call him a bizzare nickname and claim he's overrated. You've suggested he's performed poorly for Real when any resident Real fan would be likely to tell you otherwise (take some knowledgeable ones here for example).

Your childish nicknames are tiresome. If you want people to take your posts seriously, I'd quit using them.
 
James is a quality player, just ask any Real Madrid fans. We seriously lack quality up front, him and Morata can help us a lot. Don't mind him at all. But if not him, I just hope we get at least 1 more forward after Morata.
Martial and Rashford still have a long way to go. And they are the only 2 we have. Just can't imagine we go in to CL with just those 2.
 
mamboza said:
James is a quality player, just ask any Real Madrid fans. We seriously lack quality up front, him and Morata can help us a lot. Don't mind him at all. But if not him, I just hope we get at least 1 more forward after Morata.
Martial and Rashford still have a long way to go. And they are the only 2 we have. Just can't imagine we go in to CL with just those 2.
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It'll be negligent to not sign at least one more attacking player. If we work on the basis that swapping Zlatan for Morata is like for like, we'd still all agree that our attack is poor. If it were up to me I'd beg Woodward for two wingers.
 
AndyJ1985 said:
It'll be negligent to not sign at least one more attacking player. If we work on the basis that swapping Zlatan for Morata is like for like, we'd still all agree that our attack is poor. If it were up to me I'd beg Woodward for two wingers.
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I agree we need wingers, but there aren't too many great ones around. Not in the league of Giggs, Ribery, Duff etc. And modern days footy now see less wingers and more possesion football, with wide players cutting in, rotation, and wingbacks pushing up. I can live with one more winger, but definitely 2 forwards.
 
mamboza said:
I agree we need wingers, but there aren't too many great ones around. Not in the league of Giggs, Ribery, Duff etc. And modern days footy now see less wingers and more possesion football, with wide players cutting in, rotation, and wingbacks pushing up. I can live with one more winger, but definitely 2 forwards.
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Some one like mahrez, wooh
 
AndyJ1985 said:
It'll be negligent to not sign at least one more attacking player. If we work on the basis that swapping Zlatan for Morata is like for like, we'd still all agree that our attack is poor. If it were up to me I'd beg Woodward for two wingers.
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One attacker won't be enough, most likely Morata wouldn't replicate the goals that Zlatan scored but I think he'll contribute in other ways. Losing Ibrahimovic in the dressing room is a massive loss too though.

I think we need to add a bit of drive, winning mentality, steel and an outgoing personality, as well as goals. James has the flamboyancy and ability, and the versatility to play in a couple of positions and systems imo. However, I think a key target is Nainggolan. He just has an air of authority, as Zlatan has. He may be much less of a role model off the field but he leads by example on it.

My targets would be Alvaro Morata (seems the perfect mobile, disruptive striker to suit mourinho and is great in the air), James Rodriguez (as a goalscoring creator from central or wide depending upon opposition) and Radja Nainggolan (as a box to box goal scorer or occasional #10). Add Fabinho primarily as a right back but occasional holding midfielder and we would have a multitude of options tactically, but you're talking upwards of £200m and much would be dependent upon who we can offload.

I think the contract extension of Carrick is quite telling. It suggests that we may only look for one central midfielder as Pogba and Herrera are certain mainstays and we have Pereira, Fellaini and now Carrick as back up options.

NB. I'd be loathed to add a winger alongside James Rodriguez as we already have Mkhitaryan and Lingard, with Rashford also still likely to get games out wide, along with Martial and Mata should both stay.
 
worldinmotion66 said:
One attacker won't be enough, most likely Morata wouldn't replicate the goals that Zlatan scored but I think he'll contribute in other ways. Losing Ibrahimovic in the dressing room is a massive loss too though.

I think we need to add a bit of drive, winning mentality, steel and an outgoing personality, as well as goals. James has the flamboyancy and ability, and the versatility to play in a couple of positions and systems imo. However, I think a key target is Nainggolan. He just has an air of authority, as Zlatan has. He may be much less of a role model off the field but he leads by example on it.

My targets would be Alvaro Morata (seems the perfect mobile, disruptive striker to suit mourinho and is great in the air), James Rodriguez (as a goalscoring creator from central or wide depending upon opposition) and Radja Nainggolan (as a box to box goal scorer or occasional #10). Add Fabinho primarily as a right back but occasional holding midfielder and we would have a multitude of options tactically, but you're talking upwards of £200m and much would be dependent upon who we can offload.

I think the contract extension of Carrick is quite telling. It suggests that we may only look for one central midfielder as Pogba and Herrera are certain mainstays and we have Pereira, Fellaini and now Carrick as back up options.

NB. I'd be loathed to add a winger alongside James Rodriguez as we already have Mkhitaryan and Lingard, with Rashford also still likely to get games out wide, along with Martial and Mata should both stay.
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Your targets and observations are spot on and they would be my choices too.Although the quoted prices are crazy would be happy to pay 200m for the 4,unfortunately dealing with their employers is like drawing teeth!Lets hope things get a little more positive in the next few days!
 
RDCR07 said:
I would much rather get two more wingers than a #10/ACM.
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Me too, IF there is available high quality wingers with scoring ability. But is there, no? I think we need wingers but not shite or average wingers. We need more goals and creativity, Rodriguez could be answer to that. And i think he is the most talented and maybe the best player available this summer. We should sign him.
 
RDCR07 said:
I would much rather get two more wingers than a #10/ACM.
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I agree with this we've been crying out for quality wingers for a long time. Playing Mata on the right who is better as a 10, Martial on the left who I'd say is a 9....even Mkhitaryan is probably more suited to being a 10. We've been starved of proper wingers. We've played Rashford out there, again a 9, Lingard not good enough...even Rooney has had spells on the wing. We've been starved of top class wing play.

Rodriguez is a 10. We've got Mata and Mkhitaryan for that...but I'm not even sure we need a ten. We're surely signing a DM (whether its Matic or Fabinho or whoever) where do people think we're going to fit a 10 such as Rodriguez? Drop Herrera? Say we got Matic, the midfield 3 would be Matic Pogba Herrera surely? Just no need for a ten and certainly not for Rodriguez.
 
So this is back on?
Meh....
The tweet accounts linked here gets more obscure by the day.
 
I'd be happy to have him if we play him on wide left. I think his crossing and link up play would be very good. But if we got someone who actually is a true winger I'd be happy to have him ditched in a heart beat. I would certainly think that Mkhi will improve this season and he should be played as a 10 as he is certainly faster and can carry the ball well.
 
I´d take him over Perisic, but I don´t think he makes sense with Pogba being on the team, unless we go 3-5-2, and I don´t think we´re going to do that.
 
I honestly dont think there is any point in buying a #10 unless we figure out what we are going to do with Pogba. Is he a CM or is he going to play the furthest forward in a 3 man midfield which essentially makes him a #10. If we are going to use a proper #10 and Pogba as a CM, then Herrera will start and continue playing as a CDM. If not then Herrera can play alongside Pogba and we need to buy a proper CDM to play behind the two.
 
Please no. There's so many more fishes in the sea we need to catch...
 
Morata
Perisic Pogba James Mkhi
Matic
Shaw Lindelöf Bailly Valencia

Morata
Perisic James Mkhi
Pogba Herrera
Shaw Lindelöf Bailly Valencia

Morata
James
Perisic Pogba Matic Herrera Valencia
Rojo Lindelöf Bailly

Thoughts?
 
Morata
------Perisic---------James------Mkhitaryan--
-----Pogba-----Matic----
----Shaw-----Lindelof---Bailly------Valencia
De Gea
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Subs: Romero, Rojo, Jones, Herrera, Mata, Martial, Rashford

I would be happy with that for next year. I'm not keen on Perisic from what i've seen but I trust Mourinho.
 
RDCR07 said:
I honestly dont think there is any point in buying a #10 unless we figure out what we are going to do with Pogba. Is he a CM or is he going to play the furthest forward in a 3 man midfield which essentially makes him a #10. If we are going to use a proper #10 and Pogba as a CM, then Herrera will start and continue playing as a CDM. If not then Herrera can play alongside Pogba and we need to buy a proper CDM to play behind the two.
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To me, the best setup will be a pure DM(=Matic/Fabinho)+ CM(=Pogba)+ #10/CAM(=James/Mata) with Herrera on the bench. Herrera will be able to come off the bench to replace either DM or Pogba when absent, providing quality depth and not forcing us to start fellaini or Carrick.

Playing Pogba+Herrera+ DM is too conservative/defensive in my view and would not provide enough threat through the middle or attacking mobility in the final 3rd, particularly against weaker teams

Left wing I am fine with Martial/Rashford and Mkhi/Lingard can play on the right. Never saw the need for Perisic with his level of quality and age. A more potent winger like Di Maria could be more interesting.

Also with a #10 we can play a narrow diamond with 2 strikers upfront and CAM behind and 3 in midfield (like Mourinho's Porto) when needed
 
windycityfan said:
My thoughts exactly. I'd much rather give the minutes to Martial and/or Rashford on that wing.

In fact, those two should be our wingers. Maybe we do need a Jordi Alba back deep if that were the case.
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Neither of those can be trusted to hug the line and keep the width, Martial in particular came in for criticism from Mourinho for not doing what was asked time and again.
So many on this forum seem to want to just shoehorn in talented players and pray they play coherently, when whats most needed is to build an effective and functioning unit.
 
It really means nothing and is 99.98235% likely to be bullshit but apparently the transfer is apparently all the talk in Colombia.
 
James will improve us tenfold with his set piece delivery. Watching Blind, Rooney taking corners last year was just atrocious.

A loan + option to buy would be a good deal for James !
 
cheeky_backheel said:
To me, the best setup will be a pure DM(=Matic/Fabinho)+ CM(=Pogba)+ #10/CAM(=James/Mata) with Herrera on the bench. Herrera will be able to come off the bench to replace either DM or Pogba when absent, providing quality depth and not forcing us to start fellaini or Carrick.
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So you want our best midfielder from last year to be on the bench to make way for a #10 when Pogba/Mata/Mkhi can play there. We have players who are capable of playing there yet we push them to the wing where they arent as effective and then try to shoe horn in another #10? Makes no sense.
 
I have a feeling he's just ignored by us/PSG/Arsenal (assuming they'l lose Sanchez and contribute a large salary) until the final days of the window when one of the clubs wished for a better window than they had and opt to panic buy James.
 
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