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James Rodriguez - should we go for him?

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United, Milan, maybe PSG. Auba will not stay if Tuchel is out. He needs to get that final good contract.

If he's not going to us, then I hope he joins Milan tbh. They need such signings to start their return.
 
Agree. Both are willing to leave this season too. Still don't know what will be Morata's target. He has been linked to Chelsea, but they're also heavily linked to Lukaku.
I expect Lukaku to go to Chelsea. They probably can afford to spend more on him that we should be will to match.

Morata can stay at Madrid if Benzema leaves but doubt Zidane and Perez will sell benzema. Benzema would be such a good fit for Arsenal.

If Morata leaves Madrid, he will definitely leave la liga. I expect his destination would be United, Chelsea or Napoli. Dont see him at Arsenal or Roma.

If Auba leaves Dortmun, I expect Tuchel to go for another youngster like Dolberg.
 
I expect Lukaku to go to Chelsea. They probably can afford to spend more on him that we should be will to match.

Morata can stay at Madrid if Benzema leaves but doubt Zidane and Perez will sell benzema. Benzema would be such a good fit for Arsenal.

If Morata leaves Madrid, he will definitely leave la liga. I expect his destination would be United, Chelsea or Napoli. Dont see him at Arsenal or Roma.

If Auba leaves Dortmun, I expect Tuchel to go for another youngster like Dolberg.
Most likely, Tuchel is not staying for another year.
 
I expect Lukaku to go to Chelsea. They probably can afford to spend more on him that we should be will to match.

Morata can stay at Madrid if Benzema leaves but doubt Zidane and Perez will sell benzema. Benzema would be such a good fit for Arsenal.

If Morata leaves Madrid, he will definitely leave la liga. I expect his destination would be United, Chelsea or Napoli. Dont see him at Arsenal or Roma.

If Auba leaves Dortmun, I expect Tuchel to go for another youngster like Dolberg.

Think Morata is definitely leaving after the attitude he showed to Zidane on his sub last match. It seems their relationship has collapsed already.

I also think Lukaku is going to Chelsea, it seems so much logical to me. If Batshuayi also left they can go for Morata to be a sub for Lukaku, but will be strange if he left Madrid for being a sub, to be a sub again there.
 
Or, we could move Rooney and Mata both on, as James is younger and better than both. And then free up another space for an additional midfielder/FB/etc. by getting rid of one of the many #10's in the team.

Well nobody sane is considering Rooney as still being here, and you're right, this would undoubtedly spell the end of Mata. Back to Spain probably, for a decent enough sum.
 
We have pace, but we lack players with the craft to be able to make best use of it. We need guile, creativity and a regular goal threat coming from deeper positions. James is also a great set piece taker, and let's not forget, we currently have Rashford taking corners! We all know we need to strengthen other positions, so i very much doubt signing James is going to affect that. Jose will get whatever he wants for whoever he needs for next season, and i think we will see at least another 4 players coming in at LB, CB, DLP and CF.

James is not even a step up on Mata for creativity.
 
Moratta is a strange one. He was sold the previous year to Juve and was bought back and now he is wanting to leave again. He should have saw this coming before going back to Madrid.
That was more of a business move.

Madrid sold him to Juve for €20m with a 2yr limit buy back clause, which they exercised by buying him back for €30m. Which is not a bad deal as it effectively cost them just €10m plus inflation for sending him on a 2yr loan.

Now they will likely sell him for a much higher fee after getting a year of good service out of him.

I am a big fan of the buy back clause when selling young players. With such, United could have recalled keane for a cheaper fee, even if just to sell him to another club at a higher fee.
 
I expect Lukaku to go to Chelsea. They probably can afford to spend more on him that we should be will to match.

Morata can stay at Madrid if Benzema leaves but doubt Zidane and Perez will sell benzema. Benzema would be such a good fit for Arsenal.

If Morata leaves Madrid, he will definitely leave la liga. I expect his destination would be United, Chelsea or Napoli. Dont see him at Arsenal or Roma.

If Auba leaves Dortmun, I expect Tuchel to go for another youngster like Dolberg.

Tuchel is leaving Dortmund, we need to try and get one of Morata or Auba as they are the only #9 options on the market with any real experience, but I am not sure Auba would suit Jose who loves the lumped out ball option.
 
That was more of a business move.

Madrid sold him to Juve for €20m with a 2yr limit buy back clause, which they exercised by buying him back for €30m. Which is not a bad deal as it effectively cost them just €10m plus inflation for sending him on a 2yr loan.

Now they will likely sell him for a much higher fee after getting a year of good service out of him.

I am a big fan of the buy back clause when selling young players. With such, United could have recalled keane for a cheaper fee, even if just to sell him to another club at a higher fee.

I don't see any club willing to offer more than 35m for him. Also, i was talking from the player's point of view. He was never going to be a superstar at a club like Madrid no matter the love he has for them.
 
James is not even a step up on Mata for creativity.
Tbh, I don't think Mata is even that creative. Pogba tries difficult passes much more often than him. What Mata is good at, is keeping the ball moving and linking with attackers up front and scoring of course. Which is also very valuable.

Don't know much about James but I'm hearing he is creative.
 
Tbh, I don't think Mata is even that creative. Pogba tries difficult passes much more often than him. What Mata is good at, is keeping the ball moving and linking with attackers up front and scoring of course. Which is also very valuable.

Scoring and assisting goals is creative, Mata regularly gives you 18-20 combined
 
I don't see any club willing to offer more than 35m for him. Also, i was talking from the player's point of view. He was never going to be a superstar at a club like Madrid no matter the love he has for them.
Morata will likely go for €50m+ in the current market. Chelsea was rumored to have offered €60m last summer.

He is a madrid youth product and would always want a shot at making it there
 
Well nobody sane is considering Rooney as still being here, and you're right, this would undoubtedly spell the end of Mata. Back to Spain probably, for a decent enough sum.
Yea I think Mata is one guy we can get a decent fee for, like you say. Not to mention moving his and Rooney's wages off the books. That position may not be a priority, but replacing two guys on high wages with a younger guy is a smart move still and can hopefully leave us set there for years.
 
Stupid tweet, it's quite possible to not want any of that lot starting for United.

Its basically saying that its ok 4 a middle classed family to blow 1 years salary to be given access to the royal family dustbin because the queen's rubbish would probably stinks less then their own
 
I'm pretty sure you could insert the names: Falcoa, Di Maria, Schweisnteiger..maybe even Depay instead of Rodriguez in that Tweet...then who'd look like the fool?
Exactly. The curse of coming to Man Utd could easily affect James as well.
 
Tbh, I don't think Mata is even that creative. Pogba tries difficult passes much more often than him. What Mata is good at, is keeping the ball moving and linking with attackers up front and scoring of course. Which is also very valuable.

Don't know much about James but I'm hearing he is creative.

James and Mata are very similar players but James offers more goal threat. I have watched a fair few Madrid games in La liga this season and there is a reason why he doesn't start for them on a regular basis. When you even compare him to a player like Lucas Vasquez, of whom he is below the pecking order.
 
We are doing the same mistakes...We are upgrading Mata, that's not particularly bad but not a pressing need. We need a CM, a LB, a CB and maybe a striker and a GK (if DDG leaves obviously). We did the same with Mata and Kagawa and it didn't end that well

But no one here knows with absolute certainty that these positions have not been or are not being sorted out. Maybe they are as I write this.

Jose is very good at buying players he needs to fit into his plans. I can bet that if he is really pushing for James, it's because he has a clear role for him.

I think next season will be very interesting.
 
Just seen that DDG hasn't travelled for the Southampton game. He is 100% off in the summer. Surely we should hold them to ransom and get Bale included in the deal some way and buy James separate if it comes to it. gives them a few bob to splash on a signing and having DDG come in.
Mourinho said he wants to give Romero one game before the final. I imagine Southampton would be perfect for that.
 
James and Mata are very similar players but James offers more goal threat. I have watched a fair few Madrid games in La liga this season and there is a reason why he doesn't start for them on a regular basis. When you even compare him to a player like Lucas Vasquez, of whom he is below the pecking order.
So you think Vasquez is better than James? Simply put, Vasquez is Real Madrid's lingard!
 
Bale is too injury prone even for la liga. I expect it would be worse in the more physical EPL.

Also I dont expect madrid to sell Bale and James in the same summer unless they are sure of bringing in someone like Griezmann or Dybala. Perez loves his toys.

You have a point about Bale's ability to stay healthy but on the assumption that Bale + James for DDG, that sounds like a good trade. But as you say, I doubt that's a realistic proposition.
 
I don't but it's clear to see that he offers more to an attacking team than James does.
No - he is castilla product that is only suited to running down the flank like an headless chicken. At 25, he has only 4 goals in 49 appearances this season.
 
This pace obsession symbolises all that is wrong with English football in my opinion. All anyone cares about, no matter what the position is. 'How Fast can they run?'.
 
James and Mata are very similar players but James offers more goal threat. I have watched a fair few Madrid games in La liga this season and there is a reason why he doesn't start for them on a regular basis. When you even compare him to a player like Lucas Vasquez, of whom he is below the pecking order.
Do you reckon he would be an improvement over any of our attackers?
I know he's not first choice at Real but he should be able to compete for places here at least. Hearing how some are lauding him, he must be decent.
 
Anyone who thinks that he's not an upgrade on everyone in our attack sans Rashford is in denial. He's better than Martial, Lingard, and Mata. Mkhi is close but James has been more consistent throughout his career.
 
This pace obsession symbolises all that is wrong with English football in my opinion. All anyone cares about, no matter what the position is. 'How Fast can they run?'.
Well pace and carrying the ball is pretty important if Jose needs to play counter attacking football.
 
I'm not usually one for being a 'transfer muppet' (contrary to what you may think of below). Given our finances, Jose's history and media speculation is the below line-up possible for next season:

DDG (new keeper when likely sold)

Valencia
Bailly
Rojo
Mendy

Dier
Pogba

James
Griezmann
Mkhitaryan

Rashford

Given how attacking the front 4 are it would be imperative to have an anchor in midfield in the mould of Dier. Not necessarily him but a similar style. Mkhitaryan and Griezmann have both also shown good work rate.

That's about £200m without squad depth signings. Expecting massive wages off the bill with Rooney and Zlatan leaving also. It seems as though we will spend ridiculous money this summer.

Put another new centre half in there and I'd say you're probably not far off.
 
To those people saying that he doesn't address any of our immediate needs; is goals from midfield (and goals in general) not a glaring need for us right now? We might be watching different teams.
 
Well pace and carrying the ball is pretty important if Jose needs to play counter attacking football.

Counters are not just about how pacey your players are. Pacey players are sure part of successful counters but you also need players who can move the ball between them pretty fast for the fast transition from defense to offense to occur. Players with great vision and link between them are highly important in performing a counter, not just players who can run.

We played with Rashford, Lingard, Martial and Mikhi, all are fast dribblers but most of our counters are crap because these players want to run and not move the ball fast between them.
 
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