James Rodriguez | joins Bayern Munich | 2 year loan

[cheeky_backheel]

According to the stats and Belotti's age he might spend it on him. He has far more experience then Mbappe. If you see the stats over the years Belotti is better.

Those stats need to be taken in context. Belotti is 23 which is 5yrs older than Mbappe (interestingly both were born on December 20).

At 18, Belotti was playing in the equivalent of English league 2 (i.e. 4th tier). At 23, he is playing at a midtable club and has zero exposure to european football.
Mbappe on the other hand is already starting at Monaco, being a key part of what is likely a championship team and already played in the CL semis.

Even with all that Mbappe is not worth 100m and Belotti is definitely not worth half of it.

 

[MarchingOn]

Yes please.

This makes us a lot better if he just took all of Fellaini's minutes.

 

[prtk0811]

And the answer was simply, no. James isn't a slow player or slow playmaker.

But not suited to our system, he is not a winger. We don't need cams

 

[el3mel]

Signing James when we need to add pace to our first team would be a step back.

Pace again, sigh...

This is football, not a marathon.

 

[Adnandos]

Pedro saga.. someone else is gonna sign him. Does not fit our team.

Except difference is our manager now is the one who signed Pedro over us

 

[JPRouve]

But not suited to our system, he is not a winger. We don't need cams

Not suited to our system? Aren't we using a #10 in our system?

 

[prtk0811]

Bernardo could play on the right of the 3 with James as number 10.

We are not going to play a no 10 system. We need to be fluid in our systems agisnt the likes of 3 at the back systems

 

[prtk0811]

Not suited to our system? Aren't we using a #10 in our system?

Only when our midfeilders need rest or injured because we sold schneiderlin. We have played in a 3 man midfeild and dominated in the same.

 

[Zoo]

We are not going to play a no 10 system. We need to be fluid in our systems agisnt the likes of 3 at the back systems

Mourinho favours 4-2-3-1. He tried it at the beginning of the season after banking on Rooney still being useful but had to abandon it.

James will be the centrepiece of the 3 behind the striker you'd expect.

 

[prtk0811]

Pace again, sigh...

This is football, not a marathon.

This is epl bus parking defenses not la Liga. Through out our history we have had pace in our team and we are the most successful team in the country. Pace is a must in this league.

 

[GDaly95]

I have absolutely no idea how he fits into our team and I find this transfer, if it is happening, utterly baffling.

But tbh, my main concern is whether or not Jose is the one signing him. If it is a Jose signing then I'm happy because he'll obviously have some sort of plan to make it work.

If it is Woodward seeing another chance to take a big name from Madrid and getting ahead of himself then I'm worried.

 

[prtk0811]

Mourinho favours 4-2-3-1. He tried it at the beginning of the season after banking on Rooney still being useful but had to abandon it.

James will be the centrepiece of the 3 behind the striker you'd expect.

It's not written in a stone. You expect us to bench ander Herrera after such a season?

 

[MyOnlySolskjaer]

Now yes, in principle all agreed. @jamesdrodriguez the road to @ManUtd_Es for 4 years.

Since when did Bill Goldberg become ITK?

 

[el3mel]

This is epl bus parking defenses not la Liga.

You're saying this to prove my point or to deny it ?

Since they're parking buses then we need more technical players, not just pacey ones.

Pace is an element of football, but football is much more bigger than this.

 

[Adnandos]

This is epl bus parking defenses not la Liga.

That kinda proves the point that quality technical ability is more valuable here because that unlocks defenses easier. In La Liga the season where Real Madrid scored an absurd amount of goals was under Mourinho, when they played a super quick pace of counter attacking football that worked wonders there, just saying

 

[Zoo]

It's not written in a stone. You expect us to bench ander Herrera after such a season?

Would expect a new CM (Fabinho hopefully) and Herrera to compete for a midfield place next to Pogba. There will be enough game time to go around for all so Herrera would still be important.

 

[MyOnlySolskjaer]

Okay, starting to believe we're actually signing him.

 

[Devil may care]

and clubs without DOF for first team football also run fine. Different clubs have different structures with each having different responsibilities. Some coaches want more control over transfers while some just want to focus on the pitch. It is not the structure but the people that makes the difference. Moratta has a tight hand on things at Juve while Zidane has a direct line to Perez at Madrid.

All of the clubs dealing in the fees we are have someone that can rein in the manager, which is needed when talking about players that we'll be putting on silly money who we then can't move on when the latest brainfart occurs. Here we have a marketing exec who knows nothing about football and only sees big names that he can slap on shirts, we have no checks and balances for our managers, which is why we are about to do something very stupid and already allowed a manager to pay a world record fee for a player he doesn't understand.

 

[SATA]

Quick question. How much did Madrid sign him for from Monaco? Are they making a loss if we are to buy him?

 

[RedCurry]

All that hype about Griezmann and we might end up with James. One of those highly expensive players who will take up huge wages without really pushing us to the next level.

 

[cheeky_backheel]

It's not written in a stone. You expect us to bench ander Herrera after such a season?

Yes - Mourinho will bench him, doesnt mean he is no longer important. Herrera will become his special sub that he uses in different roles to change the game like he used Diarra.

 

[BennyBlanco]

I have absolutely no idea how he fits into our team and I find this transfer, if it is happening, utterly baffling.

But tbh, my main concern is whether or not Jose is the one signing him. If it is a Jose signing then I'm happy because he'll obviously have some sort of plan to make it work.

If it is Woodward seeing another chance to take a big name from Madrid and getting ahead of himself then I'm worried.

Yeah, thats more or less my take, If Jose thinks he can use him then i'm ok with it happening.
Just please don't give Madrid more than 40mill, they're fecking desperate to sell.

 

[GiddyUp]

Pace again, sigh...

This is football, not a marathon.

I know, what's the point of pace if there is no one in the box to pass to. James is far far far superior to any of our current attacking options bar one or two. Delighted with this signing and with a massive player like Greizmann and two or three solid players in defense and we will be looking good. Good bye Rooney Smalling Young and enjoy the cup games Fellaini lingard jones and Darmian.

 

[2 man midfield]

and struggled for his first 2 seasons under klopp cos of it. His last season under tuchel, he was played on the right flank in a 4-2-3-1 and 4-3-3. Mkhi is not suited to be our starting #10

I'm not saying I want him to be played there, far from it.

You said you're tired of us being linked to number 10s this season. Mkhitaryan operated from a wider role for dortmund and plays in a wide role for us. I don't think we should not sign James because we have Mkhitaryan.

I said number 10s, but I was including in that all those players that start wide but offer no width because they play like number 10s anyway.

It wasn't meant to be taken literally but it does feel like we're always trying to sign one. Think of all the players we've been confirmed to be in for in just the last 5 years or so. Sneijder, Kagawa, Mata, Di Maria, Mkhitaryan, Griezmann, James. We seem to go after these every summer.

 

[GiddyUp]

Yeah, thats more or less my take, If Jose thinks he can use him then i'm ok with it happening.
Just please don't give Madrid more than 40mill, they're fecking desperate to sell.

feck 40, I would go in at 30 and tell the footballing world that the player desires United above all else, his heart is in Manchester yada yada yada. The same way those cnuts carry out their business. I would also ask for 80 for De Gea and not budge one cent.

 

[cheeky_backheel]

All of the clubs dealing in the fees we are have someone that can rein in the manager, which is needed when talking about players that we'll be putting on silly money who we then can't move on when the latest brainfart occurs. Here we have a marketing exec who knows nothing about football and only sees big names that he can slap on shirts, we have no checks and balances for our managers, which is why we are about to do something very stupid and already allowed a manager to pay a world record fee for a player he doesn't understand.

If I understand you correctly - you are claiming to understand Pogba better than Mourinho?

Also there is no one to check Perez and his toy purchases at Madrid but that has not stoppd them from being successful has it?

 

[Borden]

Woodward isn't choosing our targets, come on.

I really hope Jose knows what he's doing on this one, because I'm very skeptical he's the type of player we need.

 

[SteveTheRed]

You're saying this to prove my point or to deny it ?

Since they're parking buses then we need more technical players, not just pacey ones.

Pace is an element of football, but football is much more bigger than this.

Some people play too much Fifa and think pace is everything!

 

[Alabaster Codify7]

Well, this has escalated quickly.

My personal reason for being quite peed off with this news, and I'm sure others, is it fails to address any of our pressing issues.

We are crying out for:

1) A new CB (top class)
2) 1-2 new FB's
3) A top-class Carrick replacement
4)Winger(s) with PACE and dribbling.
5) A new striker who can take on Zlatan's quota of goals

That's five pressing matters, of which James solves not a single one of them.

We also have Mata, Mkhitaryan, Lingard and Pogba, all of whom are capable of playing as a #10.

So its easy to see why some of us see this as nothing more than a luxury, 'media friendly' superstar signing to deflect some attention of our lacklustre season.

It's not that I don't rate the guy, though.

 

[cheeky_backheel]

I'm not saying I want him to be played there, far from it.



I said number 10s, but I was including in that all those players that start wide but offer no width because they play like number 10s anyway.

It wasn't meant to be taken literally but it does feel like we're always trying to sign one. Think of all the players we've been confirmed to be in for in just the last 5 years or so. Sneijder, Kagawa, Mata, Di Maria, Mkhitaryan, Griezmann, James. We seem to go after these every summer.

You are most often than not going to have 3 of such players on the field in a Mourinho team. It simply comes with territory.

 

[prtk0811]

Yes - Mourinho will bench him, doesnt mean he is no longer important. Herrera will become his special sub that he uses in different roles to change the game like he used Diarra.

Herrera is the only midfeilder who's energy and high press makes us a proactive side and dominate the opposition midfeild. Pogba is not good enough. He is not scholes who can maintain midfeild control and letting ball winning job on just one midfeild will be huge pressure on anyone , they don't make Roy Keane's and vieras anymore.

It's a disgrace to bench herrera for a soft boy toy. Herrera is the only one good enough to be the captain material in this team.

Playing reactive counter attacking football will never let us dominate against better philosophies.

 

[MyOnlySolskjaer]

Quick question. How much did Madrid sign him for from Monaco? Are they making a loss if we are to buy him?

Yeah, Madrid bought him for 80M Euros (£68M) and according to reports we're buying him for 50M Euros (£42M)

 

[GiddyUp]

Woodward isn't choosing our targets, come on.

I really hope Jose knows what he's doing on this one, because I'm very skeptical he's the type of player we need.

Our squad is knackerd and we have had a shitty run of injuries for the past three seasons. James is a better option then Rooney Fellaini etc., I'm so cool with this signing and am confident that this won't be the marquee signing this summer. This is one we are getting done nice and early as we have bigger fish to fry.

 

[Devil may care]

If I understand you correctly - you are claiming to understand Pogba better than Mourinho?

Also there is no one to check Perez and his toy purchases at Madrid but that has not stoppd them from being successful has it?

Yes.

Doesn't matter much at Madrid given the only players they get are the best and they flog their pontless shiny toy purchases like James to mugs like us and PSG and get their money back anyway. However you might have some Madrid fans that feel differently given how little they have won the league in the last decade.

 

[AR87]

James helps us score goals, which was our biggest problem this year even with a squad that has other issues. Wouldn't be my top choice, but I trust Mourinho in this matter and from what little I've seen of James since joining Madrid I think he definitely adds a dimension to the squad we lack as both Mkhi and Mata have flattered to deceive when their starting position has been as a 10.

We also still have plenty of time to address other issues in the squad so not sure why this is being qualified by many as a panic buy or something that's going to prevent us from adding to other deficient areas.

 

[prtk0811]

Would expect a new CM (Fabinho hopefully) and Herrera to compete for a midfield place next to Pogba. There will be enough game time to go around for all so Herrera would still be important.

Nope we won't have any midfeild control against top sides In the league against complete philosophies.

 

[notcool]

• We need a CF so if we sign JRod, we won't sign Griezmann.
• JRod has the pace for transition attacks. He also has the mobility for quick interplay between attackers.
• Everyone should start calling him JRod.
• We have enough pace if we play Martial on the left and Mkhitaryan on the right. We can add Belotti as CF to help that too.
• JRod is a top player. The reason he didn't do so well at Real Madrid is because of the balance of the team, not his lack of talent.
• Cast-offs from Real Madrid have done very well. Sneijder and Robben both won a treble since leaving; Ozil been mad assisting; even Di Maria is performing well.

 

[Frank Grimes]

This is epl bus parking defenses not la Liga. Through out our history we have had pace in our team and we are the most successful team in the country. Pace is a must in this league.

Pace is not a great asset versus a team that parks the bus, this is where guile and good shooting are more beneficial. James has both these qualities.

 

[Snafu17]

This is one of those rumors where the bulk of the reporting is done by either the likes of mirror/AS or sources that no one has ever heard off but are "totally reliable, don't you worry, they're the most respected radio/newspaper in that south american country they're from". So it's almost certainly bullshit.

 

[JoaquinJoaquin]

This signing doesn't make much sense. Unless James has hidden qualities such as pace, decent crossing, skilful dribbling and can play very effectively on the right as a winger which I sincerely doubt? If we sign James, Mata is gone I would imagine.

James scores goals, is good at set pieces (which let's be honest, we are terrible at) and has good creativity. We have really missed that this season. The down part to this signing is that I cannot see us signing Griezmann now as i'm unsure how that would work with both of them in the side. Maybe Jose's comments a few weeks ago about only wanting players who want to come here was a side swipe at Griezmann.