James Rodriguez | joins Bayern Munich | 2 year loan

James Rodriguez - should we go for him?

  • Yes

    Votes: 404 34.6%
  • No

    Votes: 565 48.4%
  • I hate Silly Season

    Votes: 198 17.0%

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All the other top clubs run just fine with a DOF, Bayern in large conduct the smartest business around and no manager their dictates every signing.
and clubs without DOF for first team football also run fine. Different clubs have different structures with each having different responsibilities. Some coaches want more control over transfers while some just want to focus on the pitch. It is not the structure but the people that makes the difference. Moratta has a tight hand on things at Juve while Zidane has a direct line to Perez at Madrid.
 
Lingard has all the pace in the world and he's awful.

Pace isn't everything.

Has he? Rarely seen his pace take him past a defender, they always keep up with him. He's quick at closing down, but I don't see how Lingard's pace has become such a thing on this forum.
 
Nothing like Sanchez at all. Sanchez is all about pace and explosiveness, James is more of a slow, scoring playmaker. Best comparison I can make is James is a similar player to Mata, only better.

Thanks. If thats the case he probably will play in the No 10 as can't see him bieng effective in the inside forward position for the same reasons mata isn't. It's not good enough popping up with a goal every now and then from the inside forward position which is basically what mata does. If we're selling Rooney and mata then I think we should sign him
 
Has he? Rarely seen his pace take him past a defender, they always keep up with him. He's quick at closing down, but I don't see how Lingard's pace has become such a thing on this forum.
If you're faster than Ibra you have pace I think.
 
Is there a chance Jose may deploy him as the furthest midfielder in the mould of Lampard at Chelsea? Arriving late in the box/on the edge he can score a ton of goals if we sort our wing play out too
 
Is there a chance Jose may deploy him as the furthest midfielder in the mould of Lampard at Chelsea? Arriving late in the box/on the edge he can score a ton of goals if we sort our wing play out too

Yeah, that'll be his role here.
 
I'm sure he has some sort of plan for him. Given the players that will most likely be available this summer, James does seem a little underwhelming, especially for that price, but the one redeeming factor is Jose's usually the master of second season transfers, so I'm hopeful.
I assume you're referring to griezmann/Sanchez? Who else would you be looking at realistically?
 
The thing is we want to see better signings than James. Someone like Bernardo Silva who plays a relatively similar role to James is a younger and technically superior player than James.

Don't understand this. What have Silva done what James haven't? Sometimes i feel like people think Silva is new Messi, which he likely isn't. Silva have just shown some skills in Ligue 1 and Portugal 1. division. Nothing else. For sure he's talented player but it doesn't mean he will be world beater. And i can say James have that same potential inside him too. Like i said before, he would be risky business but his ceiling is really high.
 
Has he? Rarely seen his pace take him past a defender, they always keep up with him. He's quick at closing down, but I don't see how Lingard's pace has become such a thing on this forum.

You probably suffer from mixrace stereotype.. it happened with Arsenal players a few years back. Ref even sent off the wrong player.

But you may be referring to Memphis Depay. Unless your quick I haven't seen many defenders catch Lingard when he's in full motion.
 
He did at Dortmund, and was another example of a player we didn't really need taking priority over areas we did.
and struggled for his first 2 seasons under klopp cos of it. His last season under tuchel, he was played on the right flank in a 4-2-3-1 and 4-3-3. Mkhi is not suited to be our starting #10
 
I never said he played number 10 for us?

You said you're tired of us being linked to number 10s this season. Mkhitaryan operated from a wider role for dortmund and plays in a wide role for us. I don't think we should not sign James because we have Mkhitaryan.
 
I'm sure he has some sort of plan for him. Given the players that will most likely be available this summer, James does seem a little underwhelming, especially for that price, but the one redeeming factor is Jose's usually the master of second season transfers, so I'm hopeful.

Nobody worth listening to has even said we're interested.
 
Some counter-points:

1. As you say, it's hard to think of a big-money player who's been bought for solely commercial reasons. But then there's never been a club as rich or as commercially driven as United before. Also I'm not saying Rodriguez would simply sit on the bench and appear in Spanish-language adverts. He'd get plenty of minutes, but probably wouldn't start in the very top games.
2. We don't need to recoup the money from him directly. If he locks down the Latin market for us we'll be coining it in for years.
3. Again, it's pointless to say 'this has never happened' as football transfer fees have spiralled so quickly. We're about to get the first £100m player and that could soon become the new normal for a top-tier talent. Our own Jesse Lingard has shown that in-and-out players can now earn £100k a week. Why can't they cost £40m?
 
The thing is we want to see better signings than James. Someone like Bernardo Silva who plays a relatively similar role to James is a younger and technically superior player than James. He is someone who most of us would want to sign over James, especially if Silva is available (by available I don't mean Monaco are actively looking to sell him but that with the right offer they could be persuaded to sell him). If Silva makes a move somewhere else this summer and we sign James instead (assuming we won't sign both as they both are quite similar players in terms of style), then the fans are right to demand better.

What if we go for Silva and he moves elsewhere and we miss out on both?

Perhaps we've held talks with Silva and he doesn't want to come.
 
This is absolutely happening. With Mendes being his manager, I can see this happening this summer. He is a very good player, but I am worried about reports of him becoming a "big time Charlie" after the 2014 world cup.
 
Don't understand this. What have Silva done what James haven't? Sometimes i feel like people think Silva is new Messi, which he likely isn't. Silva have just shown some skills in Ligue 1 and Portugal 1. division. Nothing else. For sure he's talented player but it doesn't mean he will be world beater. And i can say James have that same potential inside him too. Like i said before, he would be risky business but his ceiling is really high.
The same can be said about James as well. Besides a good 2014 WC, where he didn't really play any top side except Brazil (whom knocked them out) his best years were also with Porto and Monaco. In 3 years at Real he hasn't exactly set the world alight. My post comes from watching both of them play and for me Silva is the better player and a better prospect to sign. His control, the ability to draw a defender in and picking out a teammate are superior to James'. That's my personal opinion and hence I would prefer Silva over James. You are free to disagree with it of course.
 
I hope Mourinho is on board with this transfer and it's not the work of Woodward and Co.

Rodriguez settling in Manchester is where my reservations lie. Di Maria MK2.
 
Some counter-points:

1. As you say, it's hard to think of a big-money player who's been bought for solely commercial reasons. But then there's never been a club as rich or as commercially driven as United before. Also I'm not saying Rodriguez would simply sit on the bench and appear in Spanish-language adverts. He'd get plenty of minutes, but probably wouldn't start in the very top games.
2. We don't need to recoup the money from him directly. If he locks down the Latin market for us we'll be coining it in for years.
3. Again, it's pointless to say 'this has never happened' as football transfer fees have spiralled so quickly. We're about to get the first £100m player and that could soon become the new normal for a top-tier talent. Our own Jesse Lingard has shown that in-and-out players can now earn £100k a week. Why can't they cost £40m?

Can't see who Jose would start ahead of him from our current side. If he was to sign him.
 


Edit: worked before. oh well. I'll take the L.
 
he do seem to get rinsed in such transactions though

Absolutely in the past we have been. But there's signs to suggest our transfer policy is improving much more under Mourinho compared to his previous 2 predecessors. Take a look at last summerss signings, all done within due time with no last minute buys on deadline day. We're no longer a club in desperation (if we get CL football that is), for others to exploit our situation.
 
What if we go for Silva and he moves elsewhere and we miss out on both?

Perhaps we've held talks with Silva and he doesn't want to come.
If he doesn't want to come then its fair enough, because that would mean he's not available for us. As I said my post is based upon the assumption that he is available. Anyway for what its worth I don't think James is a massive upgrade on Mata, so if no better such player is available I wouldn't buy any such playmaker. I would rather invest the money in other positions.
 
If he doesn't want to come then its fair enough, because that would mean he's not available for us. As I said my post is based upon the assumption that he is available. Anyway for what its worth I don't think James is a massive upgrade on Mata, so if no better such player is available I wouldn't buy any such playmaker. I would rather invest the money in other positions.

Mata is a bit of a coward as no 10. Rodriguez can play there.
 
What if we go for Silva and he moves elsewhere and we miss out on both?

Perhaps we've held talks with Silva and he doesn't want to come.
Silva is a different type of player and is best suited to playing on the right flank. James is better suited to playing in the middle.

Some coaches will get the best players they can get and then come up with a formation that suits them, other coaches have a formation in mind and will buy players to suit that formation. Mourinho does the latter.

Mourinho believes in his 4-2-3-1 formation (whether you agree with him or not) and all his transfers are with that base formation (and backup 4-3-3) in mind.
Pogba was bought as one of the pivots
A new DM for the second spot in midfield
Mkhi was for flank. Bernado silva would also be for the same flank.
Rashford/Martial will likely get the other flank
If James is bought, it would be for the #10 role. Mata is also vying for the #10.

Rooney should be gone and lingard is simply not good enough to start.
 
If this spells the end of ddg and no AG7 then it's underwhelming but I reckon Dave is gone and this has been as good as done since he sold his house in Manchester. Certainly seems that way now with all the talk of pre contracts etc. I like Romero but I don't think he should be our undisputed number 1 whatever happens.

I changed my vote to I hate silly season. Can't it just be next season already?! I don't care who plays anymore, I've a very low attachment to most of these overpaid underperforming players. Joses sullen demeanor is also starting to wear me down slightly and I'm a big fan of his.

I don't really care who stays or wants to leave or comes in as long as the club starts challenging again. I hate waiting for the window to open for the chance to become even a good football team again. The money we've spent in the last few years should equal a lot better on the pitch, regardless of the manager or system. The fact people on here are saying we still need up to 6 new first team players, how could you not be jaded with it.... where does it end?!
 

Now yes, in principle all agreed. @jamesdrodriguez the road to @ManUtd_Es for 4 years.
 
We may get Silva and fail here, we may get James and be important to us than Silva. People don't understand signings aren't 1+1=2.

People are talking about Griezmann or Silva as they are sure success here. You never know if it will be or not until we see it by ourselves. Until then the manager will bring the signing he thinks it suits his style, his success is left to be seen when season starts.
 
This signing doesn't make much sense. Unless James has hidden qualities such as pace, decent crossing, skilful dribbling and can play very effectively on the right as a winger which I sincerely doubt? If we sign James, Mata is gone I would imagine.
 
I'd be really excited to see this lad play at United. Whenever I have watched him play, he always seems to be a top 3 performer. He's not single handedly going to change us into a title winning side but he can be part of the puzzle. Suprising how few games he has played by 25 years old, only 150. 13 appearances this season with 8 goals and 6 assists.
 
Signing James when we need to add pace to our first team would be a step back.
 
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